Kids arrested for mouthing at Gardai (video)

catallus wrote: »

I can't get my head around your viewpoint.

Your compassion is woefully misplaced; you yourself said earlier that he deliberately and consciously acts in an aggressive hardman manner (you say he pretends) depending on who he is in physical proximity to.

This kid must be laughing his head off at you.

There's a lot to be said for kindness and compassion for people, but it comes to a point where it becomes reckless foolishness; showing these human stains anything but physical punishment and draconian justice is folly.

There is a fair point in this before the ****ty ending. It's difficult to have sympathy for some of these 'troubled' kids when so much is done for them, and probably have more opportunities than I ever had.

Growing up my parents was pretty strict, we weren't let out with friends much or given much freedom. (Looking back my parents were probably a bit too restrictive) I didn't get all the cool clothes etc that my peers all seem to get, it almost felt that my parents didn't get how hard this made being a teenager subject to peer pressure. What I did get was full support for education. There was no question that we wouldn't go to university to do whatever we wanted. Of course we had to work every summer to contribute to the cost. So I may have suffered socially initially but I guess that was the sacrifice.

These kids seem to have all they want now without a care for their futures. I actually do blame the parents. There is a lack of forethought and they just want things now. It seems like everything they want is handed to them rather than earned. This probably all goes back to the structure of our social welfare system where things are expected rather than earned.

So nice people like Hellrazer work hard to give them a chance, but they don't care because they think they're entitled to whatever they want. They go off and act the bollix and when called out on it envoke the troubled childhood card. I've no doubt their parents are difficult but lots of us had a hard time growing up, be it abusive parents, bullying or social anxiety. So I would say they're manipulating him. They expect an endless string of these once in a lift time chances.

We take on several undergrad interns where I work each year. We put time and money (we pay them quite well) into them. We let them work on cool projects (3D printers, lasers, Arduinos, wind tunnels, coding you name it) and they spend their time learning rather than doing something useful for the company. Most of them are pretty good but you always get one or two who just don't give a **** no matter how much you try to help them.

So, anyway, this has turned into a bit of a rant.
tl;dr some kids people are just a lost cause and no matter what you do for them they don't care.