Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Tusky wrote: »

Sounds kind of like Barkley, minus the CL.

Look what we paid for Hendo, who didn't look to have anywhere near the weapons in his locker that Can does...

If Madrid really want him. I would suggest everyone except Ronnie/Bale/Ramos would be available, from their point of view.

Devilman40k wrote: »

I don't think anyone here is lacking in ambition for the club... the difference is the pace in which it can realistically be achieved.

Yes Liverpool are a big club, but we're no longer at the top table, we're a tier below to be honest. We're a season ahead in terms of qualification for the CL, so this season is about cementing that top 4 spot. Utd and Spurs will be knocking at the door next season, so we have to make sure we are ahead of them first.

Then, and only then do we look upwards.

I totally get what you're saying, we most certainly are not at the top table right now. And we may never be there again if all we accept is crumbs from the top table while we sell our best players to the the Madrids of this world so they can gorge on a Roman feast.


The point I'm making is why not look upwards right now ? It is not every day that Liverpool will do business with Real Madrid, the opportunity comes about once every four or five years going by recent activity of Xabi Alonso, Steve McManaman, Michael Owen, etc. This time they want Luis Suarez, who by the time the World Cup is finished in Brazil could well be a £80-90m rated player. If we are to sell it would be foolish just to walk away with the cash having missed the opportunity to bag a world class player of our own.

You speak of the club making progress step by step and that's admirable, baby steps, steady ship and all that. But sometimes football isn't like that. Sometimes a single world class player can change everything and be the difference between winning the league and not winning the league. In Suarez we've got that and if we are to lose him then it is essential that we pick up someone of proven ability who can be that little bit extra that we lacked this year to get over the finishing line.

Sometimes in football a single world class player can make all the difference, not only through their own performances but how they raise up the performances of their team mates around them. Gerrard's performance at the 2005 CL final was the very essence of this, he grabbed the game by the balls and pulled the whole team towards that trophy. If we lose Suarez then that's the type of player we should be aiming for. It's not often Liverpool will get the chance to land a player of this calibre but if we do end up selling to Madrid then we have a gilt edged opportunity to take Luka Modric in reverse. Could Lula Modric be to Liverpool what Eric Cantona was to Man United ? What Henry or Viera were for Arsenal, what Drogba was for Chelsea ? Who knows, but if we are aiming to get back on the top table but must sell Suarez then the way to do it is with a player like Modric. We all know that if we leave the Bernabau with £80m in cash then Lallana, having had a decent World Cup, will suddenly become a £30m player. There'll be no bargains around for Liverpool if we have £80m burning a hole, far better to use some of it to bag a world class Madrid player IMHO. This time next year we could be PL champions and everybody would be saying what a great bit of business Suarez for Modric was

Fescue wrote: »

I wouldn't look at signing a Madrid player as part of the deal. I don't think its a good circumstance for a player to come to a club as a makeweight in a transfer.

When is the last time such a situation has occured?

Did we get Nunez as part of the Michael Owen deal ??

no point fretting over Suarez. we all know where we stand.

If Real stump up the money (i.e. a world record fee, unless £70m is actually in the contract), he's 99% sure to go.

the only thing that will stop him, funnily enough, is loyalty...as well as any love for the club that he has. who knows, he may actually want to play in the Champions League for Liverpool for a season before sailing off into the sunset?

that is highly unlikely though, and barely worth entertaining.

after the way in which Rodgers handled his antics last summer, I have no doubt that if there's any chance of Suarez resisting Real for another year, it'll be Rodgers who is able to convince him, so all we can do is wait.

i'm honestly not convinced that Real are in for him at all.