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796 children buried in Septic Tank in Galway - ### Mod Warning in 1st Post

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  • #302
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    The partially english bit raises a chuckle.


  • #303
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Quandary wrote: »
    "partially English The Sacred Heart of Jesus" .

    Blame the Brits

    I could not believe what i was hearing


  • #304
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    The partially english bit raises a chuckle.

    When in doubt blame the neighbours, Wonder if that would have gotten a mention if it was Spanish or Italian nuns ?


  • #305
    SpaceTime
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    I don't know what to make of it anymore.
    Every country has its horrendous history but mostly they've accepted them, dealt with their past and moved on.

    We have to firstly stop calling these things 'scandals'. The correct terminology is 'atrocities' or 'gross abuses of human rights'.
    I'm certainly not scandalised by them, I am horrified, upset, angered and saddened by them.

    I don't know about anyone else but I want answers and explanations and I will be holding both FG and Labour fully to account over this when I vote. Obviously not over the events that happened there but I'll be looking at how they handle it today.

    If there's sweeping under the carpet exercise done by the government, I'll be ensuring I'll be reflecting that in my voting patterns!


  • #306
    Quandary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭Quandary


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Quandary seemed quite put out that RTE had, in his opinion, got it wrong.

    (To answer your question, the RCC is a bunch of different organisations and orders, but, yes, the RCC is the RCC...kinda)

    You are are arguing semantics at this stage. The article is heavily biased and does everything possible to distance the atrocity from the Church.

    This is the Belfast Telegraphs article about the same Tuam atrocity

    Unlike the RTE, they manage to use the word Catholic, Nun, Church a huge amount.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/mass-grave-of-796-babies-found-in-septic-tank-at-former-catholic-church-orphanage-in-tuam-galway-30327483.html

    How many atrocities and scandals do the Roman Catholic Church have to be complicit in before some zealots in this country will condemn them?

    If find your ardent defending of RCC abhorrent.


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  • #307
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
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    It is time for Enda et al. to step up to the plate her. In reality we, joe public, can do all the hooting we want but it'll take the full force of the government to have any hope of influencing the church, if they even can.


  • #308
    josip
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    On Today FM now


  • #309
    Temptamperu
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    Quandary wrote: »
    You are are arguing semantics at this stage. The article is heavily biased and does everything possible to distance the atrocity from the Church.

    This is the Belfast Telegraphs article about the same Tuam atrocity

    Unlike the RTE, they manage to use the word Catholic, Nun, Church a huge amount.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/mass-grave-of-796-babies-found-in-septic-tank-at-former-catholic-church-orphanage-in-tuam-galway-30327483.html

    How many atrocities and scandals do the Roman Catholic Church have to be complicit in before some zealots in this country will condemn them?

    If find your ardent defending of RCC abhorrent.

    Stockholm syndrome is synonymous with cults, you cant fault inductees from fighting their cults side its human nature.


  • #310
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Where's that petition gone? Want to facebook it.


  • #311
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Aaaaand 7 minutes later back to traffic....


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  • #312
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Quandary wrote: »
    You are are arguing semantics at this stage.

    It was you who mentioned the "fact" in the first place!!! :o

    You are wrong and RTE are right.


  • #313
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Quandary wrote: »
    If find your ardent defending of RCC abhorrent.

    In this case I am simple correcting you very, very clear factual error. That is all.


  • #314
    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    josip wrote: »
    Aaaaand 7 minutes later back to traffic....

    It was a pathetic report/interview.


  • #315
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    As horrified as I am, I can't say I'm all that surprised. Yet another case of the Catholic Church, aided and abetted by the state, grossly abusing the citizens of Ireland.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #316
    Mars Bar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,129 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    I'm not gonna be able to look at any of the old people I know who grow up here and not think, "Did you know? Why didn't you do or say something?".


  • #317
    Quandary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭Quandary


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    It was you who mentioned the "fact" in the first place!!! :o

    You are wrong and RTE are right.
    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    In this case I am simple correcting you very, very clear factual error. That is all.

    Fair enough.

    How about you address the rest of my post comparing the two articles?


  • #318
    Nodin
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    Mars Bar wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be able to look at any of the old people I know who grow up here and not think, "Did you know? Why didn't you do or say something?".


    ....because they would have been slapped down, ignored and punished for opening their gob, more than likely.


  • #319
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    These people need to be tracked down just as we'd track down nazi war criminals.

    It doesnt matter if they're dead. We need to know the truth.


  • #320
    pappyodaniel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    I'm going to watch Philomena again tonight.


  • #321
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....because they would have been slapped down, ignored and punished for opening their gob, more than likely.

    Thank <insert deity name> we had the likes of Robbo, Nell McAfferty and others who were brave enough to risk the wrath of society.


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  • #322
    nootroc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭nootroc


    Tis alright the Gardai say it's a pre Famine burial ground.

    The shams were way ahead of the rest of the world building concrete septic tanks in pre famine times.


  • #323
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Maybe its just me complaining about poor reporting but I just saw a GalwayBayFM headline that said "Government considering investigation"

    "Considering"???? What? they're unsure whether an investigation is needed or not?


  • #324
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,097 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Why if the IRA is a proscribed organisation, after all the crimes committed by the RC cult and its affiliate organisations, are they not proscribed too? :confused:


  • #325
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    I'm not gonna be able to look at any of the old people I know who grow up here and not think, "Did you know? Why didn't you do or say something?".

    From what I read it seemed like locals knew it was a grave site but thought it was a Famine era mass grave. Most likely because that's the story the nuns put out.


  • #326
    denhaagenite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    The petition hasn't even hit 5000 signatures yet, even though this thread has had 321 replies and over 13,000 views. Sign and share folks!!

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Frances_Fitzgerald_Irish_Minister_for_Justice_and_Equality_A_full_Gardai_investigation_into_the_mass_grave_in_Tuam_Co_Ga/


  • #327
    nootroc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭nootroc


    The government is flat out 'considering investigations'. Tis like silage season for them.


  • #328
    Resonator75
    Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭Resonator75


    What the bloody hell do the Garda think they are at??? A famine grave? After all we've been through with them this year already??

    Im beginning to think I live in a Kafka novel. This country I love I am ashamed of. Feel like tearing up my passport today.

    YET AGAIN THOSE WAGONS ARE BEING CIRCLED: RC CHURCH - GARDA - GOVERNMENT.

    GO TO BED SHEEPLE OF IRELAND AND DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD. MOVE ALONG.

    SHAME ON YOU APOLOGISTS AND ENABLERS .


  • #329
    carpejugulum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭carpejugulum


    Time to start treating the religious orders involved in this as crime organizations they are.
    Their assets should have been seized after they refused to cover compensation.


  • #330
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,231 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    denhaagenite wrote: »
    The petition hasn't even hit 5000 signatures yet, even though this thread has had 321 replies and over 13,000 views. Sign and share folks!!

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Frances_Fitzgerald_Irish_Minister_for_Justice_and_Equality_A_full_Gardai_investigation_into_the_mass_grave_in_Tuam_Co_Ga/

    What's the point in petitioning Frances Fitzgerald? That bitch has known all about the grave (and others like it) for 3 years at this stage and done nothing about it in her time as Children's Minister.


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  • #331
    denhaagenite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    My name is URL wrote: »
    What's the point in petitioning Frances Fitzgerald? That bitch has known all about the grave (and others like it) for 3 years at this stage and done nothing about it in her time as Children's Minister.
    Making it public in an international way, shaming them into doing something. Because this is shameful, for all of us, and we will all express the shame and remorse that is due for this. But the Catholic Church won't unless they are forced to, and forced out of Irish daily life once and for all.


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