Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Leftist · 03-06-2014 01:32PM

Agueroooo wrote: »

and with Willian now being converted into his new Makélélé

Rubber_Soul · 03-06-2014 01:49PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Yes thats right. Hoping for some good transfer business early in the window means wanting David Moyes to stay as manager. Well done. :rolleyes:

Since the end of the season you've made post after post about how incompetent the club has been for not having signings already sorted and ready to go. I think every one of us would prefer to have signings in asap, but most of us realise that with a very different manager to the last one there will likely be very different targets meaning a lot of the groundwork done in preparation for this Summer will have been in vain. The only other option is to sign Moyes targets without LVG's backing.

bucketybuck wrote: »

Its not an either or situation you know. For some reason people are starting to believe that LVG is an insane control freak that won't let a player on the training field unless he was personally there at birth.

He has in the past refused to play players a club signed without his say so, so it's not being ridiculous to assume he may do the same again. Even if he was cool with that, why on Earth would you want someone with zero footballing experience like Woodward dictating signings at Utd?

bucketybuck wrote: »

Said it a million times, this squad needs a hell of a lot of work done and United simply don't have the luxury of downing tools for a month waiting for LVG to come back from holidays.

But thats just my opinion, and there will always be plenty of people queuing up to say that there is still loads of time.

No one is arguing that the club doesn't need massive work, and I'm very worried about this Summer because I don't think we'll get the signings we need, I'm not even sold on LVG himself tbh. So stop pretending like you're the only one concerned for the future, we all are but this is just the reality of our situation.

UnitedIrishman · 03-06-2014 02:00PM

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Surely LVG looks at Fabregas and then looks at our midfield and realises that whether he's top of his list or not, he'd improve things ten-fold.

We need more than one midfielder anyway so why not just go and get the world class player that's available and then go chase your No. 1 target as opposed to chasing him all Summer, failing, and signing Marouane bloody Fellaini. I mean it's as if we have learned nothing from the debacle that was last Summer and the previous 6 years signing no decent CM :mad:

Not how Van Gaal functions or goes about his business though. Just because a player is available and he'll make our team better doesn't necessarily work for him, its about finding the right cogs for his system. That's why I am not panicking when I see us not interested in some big names. I'd love if we got our business done pre-World Cup but its not all that feasible with the manager preparing for World Cup.

Cantona's Collars · 03-06-2014 02:34PM

One for Game Of Thrones fans:

bucketybuck · 03-06-2014 02:36PM

StarshipPooper wrote: »

Since the end of the season you've made post after post about how incompetent the club has been for not having signings already sorted and ready to go....

Post after post? Really? Maybe I should just post some twitter bollocks like everybody else, would you prefer that?

So stop pretending like you're the only one concerned for the future, we all are but this is just the reality of our situation.

When the **** did I ever say I was the only one concerned for the future?

Rubber_Soul · 03-06-2014 02:57PM

bucketybuck wrote: »

Post after post? Really?

Yes, really.

bucketybuck wrote: »

Maybe I should just post some twitter bollocks like everybody else, would you prefer that?

Sure, knock yourself out. Hell even a few Shadowcomplex style fantasy line-ups would be an improvement over your usual whinging.

When the **** did I ever say I was the only one concerned for the future?

Oh you may not have said it explicitly, but every post you make where you go on about others thinking everything is fine, loads of time etc... implies it.

bucketybuck · 03-06-2014 03:09PM

StarshipPooper wrote: »

Oh you may not have said it explicitly, but every post you make where you go on about others thinking everything is fine, loads of time etc... implies it.

More bull**** based upon absolutely nothing. You should try responding to what is actually written rather than what you think was written, as its clear they are not the same thing.

tallaghtmick · 03-06-2014 03:19PM

2 Youth players talking about wanting to impress LVG...... We are signing no one! :pac:

Manutd_4life · 03-06-2014 03:46PM

David Beckham said he feels like coming out of retirement every time he watches sportsman and athletes perform. Imagine him coming back to play for us and save us from this mess David Moyes put us in. Too good to be true

Julez · 03-06-2014 03:48PM

Manutd_4life wrote: »

David Beckham said he feels like coming out of retirement every time he watches sportsman and athletes perform. Imagine him coming back to play for us and save us from this mess David Moyes put us in. Too good to be true

Eh, what?

glued · 03-06-2014 03:49PM

Manutd_4life wrote: »

David Beckham said he feels like coming out of retirement every time he watches sportsman and athletes perform. Imagine him coming back to play for us and save us from this mess David Moyes put us in. Too good to be true

shadowcomplex · 03-06-2014 03:56PM

We have to face reality in that we are behind Real Madrid, Barcelona ,Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Man City and PSG for the worlds top players. There are a number of factors and these include Presitige, Money, Weather/City etc. We are behind all those clubs for money and all the other teams city aside play in a much better city than manchester. With regards prestige, most players will pick Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern Munich in that order. Manchester United may have the biggest fan base in the world and be the biggest club to fans in Ireland and England or Japan and Africa but to most of the top players from latin based and mainland europe footballing nations, Real Madrid and Barca will always be the biggest and have the pick of the bunch. WE have never really been one to go all out and buy already developed world class players unless they were British based, to think we can just scour Europe for the worlds best players is delusional on a grand scale.

Manutd_4life · 03-06-2014 04:00PM

glued wrote: »

He said it very light-heartedly, so dont get your hopes up. And i doubt he will ever come out of retirement to play again.

Agueroooo · 03-06-2014 04:18PM

Manutd_4life wrote: »

David Beckham said he feels like coming out of retirement every time he watches sportsman and athletes perform. Imagine him coming back to play for us and save us from this mess David Moyes put us in. Too good to be true

kryogen · 03-06-2014 04:18PM

Doubt anybody actually wants him too! (Clubs like United)

Actually, is this a serious thing? Would you actually like to see United re sign Beckham, now, at his age?

tallaghtmick · 03-06-2014 04:26PM

kryogen wrote: »

Doubt anybody actually wants him too! (Clubs like United)

Actually, is this a serious thing? Would you actually like to see United re sign Beckham, now, at his age?

Woodward would to sell Jerseys.

Winston Payne · 03-06-2014 04:30PM

Beckham had peaked when he left us. The idea of him signing and playing for us again is one of sheer, abject terror.

Antibac · 03-06-2014 04:57PM

kryogen wrote: »

Doubt anybody actually wants him too! (Clubs like United)

Actually, is this a serious thing? Would you actually like to see United re sign Beckham, now, at his age?

He said he might play for his Miami team to get it off the ground.

v3ttel · 03-06-2014 05:08PM

Winston Payne wrote: »

Beckham had peaked when he left us.

I disagree with that. I think his second half of the the La Liga winning season was the best football of his career. He was unbelievable and there is no way Real Madrid would have won the league without Capello continued to freeze him out.

Winston Payne · 03-06-2014 05:17PM

v3ttel wrote: »

I disagree with that. I think his second half of the the La Liga winning season was the best football of his career. He was unbelievable and there is no way Real Madrid would have won the league without Capello continued to freeze him out.

That period of form is way overstated. Capello dropped him and had good reason to do so. Three of the four free kicks that he scored should have been saved. Robinho had a much bigger direct impact for Madrid in the run in and Reyes was the player that actually won the league.

billyhead · 03-06-2014 05:24PM

Corvo wrote: »

I would imagine that if United are enquiring or beginning negotiations with Barcelona it would be very subtle and I would also imagine it would be a "look, can we get this done asap - as we aren't hanging around this year only for Darren Dein to screw us over again".

As for the reasons they are getting rid of him? Well its quite simple - he held them to ransom last year for more playing time, which had already pissed off the fans and then he does not produce the goods as much as he is expected to - again ensuring he his booed.

But more than that, I think Barcelona just really want Koke who is an upgrade on him in my opinion or will be in approx 2 years.

I would say United are interested in him but they got the vibes form him or his reps that hes not for a number of reasons already mentioned i.e no CL football, living in Manchester, Uniteds current situation. The club would deny having an interest in him to save face.

bucketybuck · 03-06-2014 05:29PM

kryogen wrote: »

Actually, is this a serious thing? Would you actually like to see United re sign Beckham, now, at his age?

It would be interesting to see where a Beckham in his prime would play if he was around today, 442 is still viable but the age of wingers getting to the byline has passed somewhat. He would have been a great central midfielder in my opinion, he had a fantastic engine and workrate on top of his passing ability.

Winston Payne · 03-06-2014 06:03PM

Beckham never had the positional sense or the tactical vision necessary to be a great central midfield player. He never dictated play from a central area when he was put in there. He had the range, but not the sense for the role.

The_Kew_Tour · 03-06-2014 06:06PM

Sure just bring back Scholes for CM and be done with it.

Al Capwned · 03-06-2014 06:21PM

I miss football.

steoin · 03-06-2014 06:31PM

Manutd_4life wrote: »

David Beckham said he feels like coming out of retirement every time he watches sportsman and athletes perform. Imagine him coming back to play for us and save us from this mess David Moyes put us in. Too good to be true

I feel like having sex every time I watch porn, but I'm afraid some things are just not meant to be.

shadowcomplex · 03-06-2014 06:33PM

Apparently Real Madrid are about to offer 41m for Vidal, the bastards get everyone they want.

There's no chance of us getting him, I think we would be best served going for William Carvalho. He's a realistic target and looks a good player

lordgoat · 03-06-2014 06:36PM

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Apparently Real Madrid are about to offer 41m for Vidal, the bastards get everyone they want.

There's no chance of us getting him, I think we would be best served going for William Carvalho. He's a realistic target and looks a good player

If that's the case go for Modric.

Corvo · 03-06-2014 06:55PM

lordgoat wrote: »

If that's the case go for Modric.

Who then joins PSG for £12m and we get Fabian Delph for £22m

redbaron_99 · 03-06-2014 06:59PM

Will very much look forward to watching madrid next year if they sign vidal. favourite player around at the moment.

meanwhile the silence grows deafening from united.

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