Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

Larry Wildman

StarshipPooper wrote: »

Why? What's the point in having a bid fail publicly?

Do you really think his agent hasn't been briefed by Utd and a host of other clubs reps as to what kind of contract he'd get elsewhere? What if we offer him a deal and he says he has no interest, or Juve say no deal. What does it achieve to then go public and have the offer fail?

Personally I would prefer to know that the club has done everything it can to sign players of that calibre.

If (say) Fabregas only wants to live in London or Vidal only wants to play for Real Madrid, so be it.

bren2001

NeVeR wrote: »

I really hope I don't get Brazil or Argentina I'll NeVeR hear the end of it ... I want Ghana

You could use a site like this:
http://goal.brazilsweepstake2014.com/

You set it up, PM the link to the 32 people. Each person signs up and teams are distributed at sign up.

Personally, I'd prefer the streamed draw you propose, adds a bit of excitement. Even if you got Brasil, I don't think people will be calling a fix.

v3ttel

TheDoc wrote: »

Hunter has told news talk Barca have confirmed off the record an agreed fee. No one knows Barca stuff better I guess?

What? Hunter is a notorious spoofer. I have no idea how people believe he has sources at Barca. Look at his tweets. He references Mundo Deportivo (akin to the Sun, Star, etc) and pure conjecture (should, perhaps, etc).

"I'm in Brazil now for WC prep but if Miguel Rico of Mundo Deportivo says that #Chelsea & FCB are close to a deal on #Cesc it'll be sound"

"Money talks and one could look at #Barça as a club where the 'rejuventation' of the squad may be exciting. So, perhaps, #Koke is doable"

"The idea that #Barça want #Koke is a no-brainer. Technically very good, young, hard working, physical. Fabulous assist delivery."

"Obviously #Barça could, probably should, meet the #Koke buy out clause."

Hunter is just as bad, if not worse than Balague.

MagicIRL

Twitter is for fools. BBC 'til death!

NeVeR

Not related to the Draw or MUFC but my boss sent me this link.. ahhh the memories.

ericzeking

I'm taking the quietness on the transfer deals front as a positive, possibly a return to the old way of just doing it behind the scenes and announcing that it's done, wham bam. Perhaps all the public pursuits last summer were attempts by DM and EW to gain the favour of those who didn't warm to them and now that it's LVG he just doesn't give a toss and will just do his own thing and rightly not care about what the fans think of his transfer strategy.

I trust LVG to have had a good plan negotiated and in place before he was ever announced and good targets sussed out...the less the media get a grasp on the better if you ask me, the BS spouted by the various journalists would wear you out.

NeVeR

bren2001 wrote: »

You could use a site like this:
http://goal.brazilsweepstake2014.com/

You set it up, PM the link to the 32 people. Each person signs up and teams are distributed at sign up.

Personally, I'd prefer the streamed draw you propose, adds a bit of excitement. Even if you got Brasil, I don't think people will be calling a fix.

Thats great I wish i had it at the start.. but i've my heart set on my way for now.. and I'll do it this evening.

Thanks.

Cantona's Collars

ericzeking wrote: »

I'm taking the quietness on the transfer deals front as a positive, possibly a return to the old way of just doing it behind the scenes and announcing that it's done, wham bam. Perhaps all the public pursuits last summer were attempts by DM and EW to gain the favour of those who didn't warm to them and now that it's LVG he just doesn't give a toss and will just do his own thing and rightly not care about what the fans think of his transfer strategy.

I trust LVG to have had a good plan negotiated and in place before he was ever announced and good targets sussed out...the less the media get a grasp on the better if you ask me, the BS spouted by the various journalists would wear you out.

+1

United were never one of these clubs who trumpeted deals publicly before they were done.IIRC Woodward also reiterated this and is sticking to this mantra,hence the media & our fascination with this mysterious list that's been talked about.

glued

NeVeR wrote: »

Thats great I wish i had it at the start.. but i've my heart set on my way for now.. and I'll do it this evening.

Thanks.

Play the Champions League theme song in the background becuase it's the only time we'll here it next year!

irishfeen

Rega wrote: »

If he manages to get through 32 kinder eggs today he can use the plastic containers to put the teams in.

Haha that's exactly what I was thinking and his mom, sister, gf, hot friend for the bit of talent

Rayne Wooney

He was dreadful behind the striker and this could be a ploy by Roy to bench him, he's destined to be even worse on the wing especially with Roy's tactics

bucketybuck

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

He was dreadful behind the striker and this could be a ploy by Roy to bench him, he's destined to be even worse on the wing especially with Roy's tactics

Has Roy considered perhaps playing him as a striker? :pac:

bangkok

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

He was dreadful behind the striker and this could be a ploy by Roy to bench him, he's destined to be even worse on the wing especially with Roy's tactics

but does he deserve a starting spot up front considering sturridges form? no goal scored in 8 world cup games and hasn't scored for England last 4 games...not great for a "world class" striker

Macca07

bangkok wrote: »

but does he deserve a starting spot up front considering sturridges form? no goal scored in 8 world cup games and hasn't scored for England last 4 games...not great for a "world class" striker

So you'd want to bench a world class striker who has been carrying the national team since he's been 18, for a player that has had one good season.

Rooney scored 7 goals in the qualifiers, was Englands leading scorer for that. What do the last World Cups got to do with Rooney's current form?

Also, IIRC, Rooney had picked up injuries just before both World Cups.

bangkok

Macca07 wrote: »

So you'd want to bench a world class striker who has been carrying the national team since he's been 18, for a player that has had one good season.

Rooney scored 7 goals in the qualifiers, was Englands leading scorer for that. What do the last World Cups got to do with Rooney's current form?

Also, IIRC, Rooney had picked up injuries just before both World Cups.

no I never said he should be dropped, but maybe he doesn't deserve to start up front at the moment... and as you said CURRENT form which sturridge has

Lord TSC

Apparently Januzaj's debut for Beligum has been struck off...

Manchester United's Adnan Januzaj has his first Belgium cap taken from him after Fifa wiped the 5-1 win against Luxembourg from the official records.
Coach Marc Wilmots made seven substitutions in the World Cup warm-up match, one more than the amount permitted by world football's governing body.
It also means Chelsea striker Romelu Lukaku has his hat trick in the 26 May encounter erased and goalkeeper Sammy Bossut also has his first cap annulled.

From Reddit

Macca07

bangkok wrote: »

no I never said he should be dropped, but maybe he doesn't deserve to start up front at the moment... and as you said CURRENT form which sturridge has

Sturridge has no real international experience, no major tournaments under him. Roy would be nuts to shove Rooney out on the wing. Rooney's best position is up front, I think England would be a better team with Rooney up front, with Sturridge and Sterling/Welbeck coming in from the wings. If Rooney doesn't deserve to start up front, then he doesn't deserve to start at all.

All 3 are better players than Rooney coming from the wings, Rooney should be played as the #9 or #10. But I'm sure Roy is just trying something different for tonights game and it'll be the usual setup we see at the WC.

Adamcp898

Yes this talk of dropping/shoving Rooney out wide has me puzzled. Despite not playing too well in the last game he was still their top goalscorer in qualifiers, and his last few major tournaments he's been injured/had other issues and if he wasn't so integral to England he probably wouldn't have been selected at all.

That and the calls have come in favour of Sturridge who hasn't exactly ripped up trees himself in his few England caps with his goals either coming in unimportant low opposition friendlies or comfortable low opposition qualifier wins.

Corvo

If hes not going to start him up front then dont start him at all because I would rather Welbeck on the left anyway

Larry Wildman

The Liverpool bias on tv has a lot to answer for...Sturridge ahead of Rooney...FFS

(i.e. the ridiculous amount of blinkered ex Liverpool players in the media)

Vinz Mesrine

Larry Wildman wrote: »

The Liverpool bias on tv has a lot to answer for...Sturridge ahead of Rooney...FFS

(i.e. the ridiculous amount of blinkered ex Liverpool players in the media)

Picking players on reputation rather than current form... FFS

Mitch Connor

Rooney was rubbish in the last game. Poor passing, terrible first touch. Similar to what we see from him at United too often (imo). If he isn't playing well, he should be dropped as when he isn't playing well he is a passenger.

Lord TSC

If I was an England fan, I'd be wanting Sturridge starting ahead of Rooney; not only is he in better form, he's also a fair chunk younger and will be their main striker for the next 6-8 years, whereas Rooney could be declining by the next tournament.

MD1990

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Yes this talk of dropping/shoving Rooney out wide has me puzzled. Despite not playing too well in the last game he was still their top goalscorer in qualifiers, and his last few major tournaments he's been injured/had other issues and if he wasn't so integral to England he probably wouldn't have been selected at all.

That and the calls have come in favour of Sturridge who hasn't exactly ripped up trees himself in his few England caps with his goals either coming in unimportant low opposition friendlies or comfortable low opposition qualifier wins.

Sturridge is England's best striker & has great pace to stretch defences. Rooney always underperforms at major tournaments.
Rooney's lifestyle is catching up with him & it looks like he reached his peak in the 11/12 season.

FutureGuy

Wow. I'd have Sturridge well ahead of Rooney in the England pecking order.

MagicIRL

FutureGuy wrote: »

Wow. I'd have Sturridge well ahead of Rooney in the England pecking order.

Just look at the form both were in this season.Sturridge netted 21 goals in 29 games (league) with 7 assists for Liverpool. Rooney on the other hand scored 17 goals and 10 assists in the same number of games.

4 more goals or 3 more assists? I know who I would pick to be my goalscoring threat based on stats alone, but then you must consider Rooney spent some games @ #10 as well as playing under Moyes and in Europe.

I don't know who I would choose.

Mitch Connor

MagicIRL wrote: »

As would I. Just look at the form both were in this season.Sturridge netted 21 goals in 29 games (league) with 7 assists for Liverpool. Rooney on the other hand scored 17 goals and 10 assists in the same number of games.

4 more goals or 3 more assists? I know who I would pick to be my goalscoring threat.

4 more goals, not 12.

Rayne Wooney

Rooney playing behind the striker floating passes from side to side adds absolutely nothing to the team and it lets the other team get back in shape and gives England no other option but to cross it. They're better off playing Sterling behind the striker like he did for Liverpool

Rooney is better than Sturridge as a striker but Sturridge is on form and Rooney has been playing out of position most of the past two years so you can understand why Roy picks him

Their best chance was giving Rooney a few games there to get some form in the last few games and then start him up front in the groups

bangkok

Macca07 wrote: »

Sturridge has no real international experience, no major tournaments under him. Roy would be nuts to shove Rooney out on the wing. Rooney's best position is up front, I think England would be a better team with Rooney up front, with Sturridge and Sterling/Welbeck coming in from the wings. If Rooney doesn't deserve to start up front, then he doesn't deserve to start at all.

All 3 are better players than Rooney coming from the wings, Rooney should be played as the #9 or #10. But I'm sure Roy is just trying something different for tonights game and it'll be the usual setup we see at the WC.

and rooney has 2 world cups under him and was rubbish in both.... scholes was right about rooney... his best days are behind him

DARK-KNIGHT

So rooney scores 4 less than sturridge being played out of position... nevermind the united team behind rooney being shocking bad this year plus add in rooneys workrate on the pitch..

Sturridge isnt even good enough to clean rooneys boots