Manchester United Superthread 2014 mod warning #8081

bucketybuck

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Its a good thing nothing whatsoever has changed since last summer though.... it's certainly not as if we have a more attractive manager, a Chief-Ex out to prove himself, and a mission to climb out of the hole Moyes put us in...

You know what else we don't have? Any of the early transfer business that many considered quite important.

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That reminds me why i hate twitter

Mars Bar

yermandan wrote: »

@SkyFootball: Luis Suarez confirms he wants to leave Liverpool this summer.

Thank that's an old tweet that's being retweeted.

Mitch Connor

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Was there not an acceptance amongst the fans that LVG would be putting ~100% of his efforts into his current mega important job until possibly mid July, and little or no work into his future job. And that he was considered 'worth it' despite that short term negative.

It seems bizarre to ask what is LVG at. Hes plotting some way of getting a draw in the crucial first game against Spain, followed by wins against Chile and Australia which are hopefully enough to win the group and avoid Brazil in the L16.

i didn't say I wanted him concentrating on united business. From all the talk LVG has decided against kroos and fabregas, which is what I'm questioning.

Rubber_Soul

bucketybuck wrote: »

You know what else we don't have? Any of the early transfer business that many considered quite important.

Guess that's what happens when you sack a manager and the new guy has different ideas. Perhaps we should have stuck with Moyes. Or let Ed Woodward decide who gets bought and sold!

Larry Wildman

StarshipPooper wrote: »

Perhaps we should have stuck with Moyes

No thanks!

"Cum on Feel the Noize...Sack David Moyes" is the anthem of the 2013/2014 season.

A nice man but a man that was absolutely out of his depth.

Someone like Carlo Ancellotti stops Ramos during training and says "Sergio, here's an idea...when I played with Franco Baresi and managed Paolo Maldini, they used to try this."

Van Gaal can say to Wayne Rooney, "when I coached Lionel Messi, I said this..."

David Moyes stopped Ferdinand and Vidic and gave then anecdotes about Phil Jagielka...QED

Rubber_Soul

Larry Wildman wrote: »

No thanks!

It was a rhetorical question.

kryogen

Larry Wildman wrote: »

No thanks!

"Cum on Feel the Noize...Sack David Moyes" is the anthem of the 2013/2014 season.

A nice man but a man that was absolutely out of his depth.

Someone like Carlo Ancellotti stops Ramos during training and says "Sergio, here's an idea...when I played with Franco Baresi and managed Paolo Maldini, they used to try this."

Van Gaal can say to Wayne Rooney, "when I coached Lionel Messi, I said this..."

David Moyes stopped Ferdinand and Vidic and gave then anecdotes about Phil Jagielka...QED

Think you have that wrong tbh

NeVeR

stankratz wrote: »

RE: World Cup Sweep Stakes -

NeVer, I am relinquishing my spot in the sweeps, trying Paypal for the last half hour has done nothing but make me frustrated and bring on a mild headache.

Best of luck to whoever takes up my spot.

Thanks for the message.

I'm going to PM the 1st Sub now which is BKtje

bucketybuck

StarshipPooper wrote: »

Guess that's what happens when you sack a manager and the new guy has different ideas. Perhaps we should have stuck with Moyes. Or let Ed Woodward decide who gets bought and sold!

Yes thats right. Hoping for some good transfer business early in the window means wanting David Moyes to stay as manager. Well done. :rolleyes:

Its not an either or situation you know. For some reason people are starting to believe that LVG is an insane control freak that won't let a player on the training field unless he was personally there at birth.

Said it a million times, this squad needs a hell of a lot of work done and United simply don't have the luxury of downing tools for a month waiting for LVG to come back from holidays.

But thats just my opinion, and there will always be plenty of people queuing up to say that there is still loads of time.

Larry Wildman

kryogen wrote: »

Think you have that wrong tbh

How so?

My point is that Moyes lacked credibility.

Mourinho, Van Gaal, Ancellotti, Ferguson, etc have gravitas because of what they've achieved in the game.

I'm not trying to be unkind, but Moyes is effectively a nobody compared to the great managers.

NeVeR

Man United Fans World Cup Sweeps

Updated paid list.

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1: NeVeR | Yes |
2: Gadge | Yes |
3: keane2097 | Yes |
4: Donnielighto | |
5: LightOfTruth | Yes |
6: Vertigo100 | Yes |
7: s.welstead | Yes |
8: duffman13 | Yes |
9: irishfeen | Yes |
10: bucketybuck |Yes |
11: astradave | Yes |
12: RasTa | Yes |
13: ManofStraw | Yes |
14: LostBoy101 | Yes |
15: glued | Yes |
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17: Timmyctc | Yes |
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19: scudzilla | Yes |
20: collie0708 |Yes |
21: Liam O | Yes |
22: markc1184 | Yes |
23: Blatter | Yes |
24: bennyl10 |Yes |
25: BKtje| Yes |
26: Thatsfootball | Yes |
27: Iago | Yes |
28: bren2001 | Yes |
29: ninja900 | Yes |
30: yermandan | Yes |
31: Saucy McKetchup |Yes |
32: Will I Amnt | Yes |




I've decided that this is the final prizes list.

World Cup winner €150
Runner Up €70

1st Most yellow cards in group stages €20
1st Red Card €20
1st OG €20
1st Peno €20
Worst goal difference in group stages. €20


1 left to pay. Once we get it I'll do the Draw

Just Donnielighto left.
stankratz has been replaced by BKtje
I've PM'ed Donnielighto again, They have until tonight to pay them I will be contacting Baldy Conscience to sub.

glued

Surely the last guy left has had enough time to pay up at this stage? Move it on to the next person I say!

NeVeR

glued wrote: »

Surely the last guy left has had enough time to pay up at this stage? Move it on to the next person I say!

In the original post I gave until midnight tonight so i have to stick to it.

Thecon21

So another day, early morning.. Do we expect anything at all today or another day of nothing?

Corvo

Thecon21 wrote: »

So another day, early morning.. Do we expect anything at all today or another day of nothing?

No, certainly would not expect anything until after the World Cup - bar possibly the Cesc Fabregas rumours gathering pace as newspapers try to fill column space.

Larry Wildman

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/frank-lampard-set-for-new-york-as-jose-mourinho-makes-move-for-cesc-fabregas-30323576.html

Chelsea lining up Cesc Fabregas to replace Frank Lampard...£30m

United said not to be interested.

Sorry, but FFS. Just watch Fabregas next season wherever he ends up. The guy will be world class. Potentially the best midfielder in the country. And we're not interested. The mind boggles.

NeVeR

Larry Wildman wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/frank-lampard-set-for-new-york-as-jose-mourinho-makes-move-for-cesc-fabregas-30323576.html

Chelsea lining up Cesc Fabregas to replace Frank Lampard...£30m

United said not to be interested.

Sorry, but FFS. Just watch Fabregas next season wherever he ends up. The guy will be world class. Potentially the best midfielder in the country. And we're not interested. The mind boggles.

Maybe there's bad blood over last season..

Larry Wildman

Larry Wildman wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/frank-lampard-set-for-new-york-as-jose-mourinho-makes-move-for-cesc-fabregas-30323576.html

Chelsea lining up Cesc Fabregas to replace Frank Lampard...£30m

United said not to be interested.

Sorry, but FFS. Just watch Fabregas next season wherever he ends up. The guy will be world class. Potentially the best midfielder in the country. And we're not interested. The mind boggles.

How do you know Utd aren't interested?

Lord TSC

rarnes1 wrote: »

How do you know Utd aren't interested?

Well, the journalists said so, didn't they.


Anyway...Kagawa at it again on a National level...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-DxQOgRU8

Larry Wildman

rarnes1 wrote: »

How do you know Utd aren't interested?

Fingers crossed we are.

Cesc Fabregas in United's midfield...that would be a joy to behold.

bucketybuck

Larry Wildman wrote: »

United said not to be interested.

Sorry, but FFS. Just watch Fabregas next season wherever he ends up. The guy will be world class. Potentially the best midfielder in the country. And we're not interested. The mind boggles.

I simply cannot believe any paper talk that United are not interested. Our midfield is Carrick and Cleverley, if a player like Fabregas is available then we do not have the luxury of not being interested. It would be totally illogical not to be interested.

Chelsea or City might have to consider if he is really an improvement on who they already have, on an Oscar or Toure. We don't have that problem, we know he is better than anything we have.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Teamshadowclan wrote: »

Well, the journalists said so, didn't they.


Anyway...Kagawa at it again on a National level...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-DxQOgRU8

I'm going too be really pissed if we don't see him preform at that level for united! Hopefully he rips up the World Cup infront of LVG who I'm hoping already has a man crush on Kags from his time at Dortmund.

Corvo

Larry Wildman wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/frank-lampard-set-for-new-york-as-jose-mourinho-makes-move-for-cesc-fabregas-30323576.html

Chelsea lining up Cesc Fabregas to replace Frank Lampard...£30m

United said not to be interested.

Sorry, but FFS. Just watch Fabregas next season wherever he ends up. The guy will be world class. Potentially the best midfielder in the country. And we're not interested. The mind boggles.

I don't think that article actually mentions anything about United's lack of interest, though I do know that is the general rumour doing the rounds.

It will take a lot for Fabregas to join Chelsea I think - he will surely have options in France and Italy (Juventus perhaps) and while the Premier League is surely his preferred destination, his previous comments and public lash-out at Jose Mourinho will have an effect.

Hopefully United have their cards close to their chest here and are makiing moves away from the public eye.

Its also conceivable that they don't want to get bogged down in another summer long negotiation with a player who cost us a lot of time and manpower last year.

Larry Wildman

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Fingers crossed we are.

Cesc Fabregas in United's midfield...that would be a joy to behold.

I wouldn't put too much stock in any journos tbh.

Even the reliables aren't really reliable this summer.

Your own clubs website and then probably the BBC are the ones I'd have faith in.

Larry Wildman

Corvo wrote: »

I don't think that article actually mentions anything about United's lack of interest

From the article:

"Manchester United made two unsuccessful bids to try to sign Fabregas last summer and were interested again until new manager Louis van Gaal informed the club he had other targets."

Corvo

Larry Wildman wrote: »

From the article:

"Manchester United made two unsuccessful bids to try to sign Fabregas last summer and were interested again until new manager Louis van Gaal informed the club he had other targets."

Sorry Larry, still suffering the effects of the weekend.

Well if Van Gaal feels the team would be better served by a different player then I will trust his experience.

Larry Wildman

Corvo wrote: »

Sorry Larry, still suffering the effects of the weekend.

Well if Van Gaal feels the team would be better served by a different player then I will trust his experience.

Hopefully that's the case.

The nightmare scenario is Van Gaal saying "Letsh not shign anyone...I want to shee how good this England international Tom Cleverly ish firsht".

duffman13

Corvo wrote: »

Sorry Larry, still suffering the effects of the weekend.

Well if Van Gaal feels the team would be better served by a different player then I will trust his experience.

+1 on this. If he has a system and a structure he wants to adopt then he should be allowed to implement it. I think we all believe Fabregas is a massively talented player but if LVG doesn't think he fits then I would trust him.

Under Moyes we were trying to sign marquee names like Fab*, but that is not always the right move. Mata was a signing to appease discontent in January. I'm delighted we got him but not what we needed as a priority. If LVG has players he wants to sign that are going to integrate into the system and are not big names we need to trust him.

*I'm not saying Fabregas is not a huge improvement on what's currently available.

Mikeyt086

Larry Wildman wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/frank-lampard-set-for-new-york-as-jose-mourinho-makes-move-for-cesc-fabregas-30323576.html

Chelsea lining up Cesc Fabregas to replace Frank Lampard...£30m

United said not to be interested.

Sorry, but FFS. Just watch Fabregas next season wherever he ends up. The guy will be world class. Potentially the best midfielder in the country. And we're not interested. The mind boggles.

Is that not clearly the club trying to save face after being told Fabregas isn't interested in us?

If Fabregas signs for Chelsea, it will be because he had agreed to it and told the other teams interested, who then have briefed the media that they are not interested (Us, Pool and Arsenal).