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Qatar Dress Code

  • 28-05-2014 09:12PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    In Qatar, they're distributing leaflets telling people how to dress. I wonder how well it would go down, if western countries told Muslims to stop wearing Hijabs in public, or we'll lock you up because it's not our culture.

    You could get 6 months in prison for wearing something they don't like in Qatar, or saying something they don't like. It's okay though because only white people can have racist opinions these days, everybody else just has culture differences.

    The world cup should be interesting, why would anybody go there?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/qatar-launches-campaign-for-modest-dress-code-for-tourists-9438452.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Disappointing but not unexpected.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    In countries like Malta and Spain if you want to visit cathedrals etc, they insist on appropriate dress, to the point of having a basket of pashmina type scarves that women with bare shoulders must wear before they are allowed in


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    In Qatar, they're distributing leaflets telling people how to dress. I wonder how well it would go down, if western countries told Muslims to stop wearing Hijabs in public, or we'll lock you up because it's not our culture.


    Well we're western liberal democracies, and they're conservative monarchies, so really I don't know what comparison you're trying to make.
    It's okay though because only white people can have racist opinions
    these days, everybody else just has culture differences.


    What has racism got to do with what you posted, exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Stheno wrote: »
    In countries like Malta and Spain if you want to visit cathedrals etc, they insist on appropriate dress, to the point of having a basket of pashmina type scarves that women with bare shoulders must wear before they are allowed in

    Yeah but that's visiting religious sites not walking around in the street.

    I don't think they should be hosting the World Cup if they can't handle women wearing shorts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Stheno wrote: »
    In countries like Malta and Spain if you want to visit cathedrals etc, they insist on appropriate dress, to the point of having a basket of pashmina type scarves that women with bare shoulders must wear before they are allowed in

    That's a bit different though, it's a private building, they have a right to decide who they allow in, sort of like night clubs used to have dress codes here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Nodin wrote: »
    What has racism got to do with what you posted, exactly?

    What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months in prison?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months on prison?


    From who? Certainly I wouldn't be in favour of imposing a dress code on anyone.

    Is there some point you are trying to make?

    Why did you mention raicism in your op?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    No leggings? Glass them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Yeah but that's visiting religious sites not walking around in the street.

    I don't think they should be hosting the World Cup if they can't handle women wearing shorts.

    They shouldn't be hosting the World Cup for a hell of a lot more reasons than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Nodin wrote: »
    From who? Certainly I wouldn't be in favour of imposing a dress code on anyone.

    Is there some point you are trying to make?

    Why did you mention raicism in your op?

    Because we would be considered racist if we did these things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    No leggings? Glass them.

    With a pint glass ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Because we would be considered racist if we did these things.


    Muslims aren't a race. It would be a sectarian act.

    I still don't understand what point you're trying to make in the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Well, the thing is, in those countries it's different culture.
    Here we're not so much "anti-hijab" as much as their "pro-hijab" in those countries.

    All in all if you don't want to dress a certain way that's part of the culture then don't go there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    With a pint glass ?

    List of reasons not to have it in Quatar

    1- Treament of workers
    2 - It's a conservative monarchy
    3 - The heat
    4 - The whole thing with the drink
    5 - The dress code

    Feel free to add.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months in prison?
    People would think we were not a tolerant liberal democracy.

    But I assume what you're going for is, look at them not tolerating us, why should we be expected to tolerate them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Nodin wrote: »
    Muslims aren't a race. It would be a sectarian act.

    I still don't understand what point you're trying to make in the OP.

    I'm okay with you not understanding if you want to be pedantic.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months in prison?

    Isn't it illegal in France now?

    edit: It is and punishable by a fine, different mind you from prison, and went to the European court to be challenged

    Until recently it was also widely banned in Turkey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Nodin wrote: »
    List of reasons not to have it in Quatar

    1- Treament of workers
    2 - It's a conservative monarchy
    3 - The heat
    4 - The whole thing with the drink
    5 - The dress code

    Feel free to add.

    6 - Corruption.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    I'm okay with you not understanding if you want to be pedantic.


    Nothing to do with pedantry - muslims are not a race..

    You talk about the dress code in Qatar, which is straightforward enough, then its
    I wonder how well it would go down, if western countries told Muslims to stop wearing Hijabs in public, or we'll lock you up because it's not our culture.

    You could get 6 months in prison for wearing something they
    don't like in Qatar, or saying something they don't like. It's okay though
    because only white people can have racist opinions these days, everybody else
    just has culture differences.

    What relevance have "western countries" to it?

    What relevance has "only white people............" to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    6 - Corruption.


    ...which is the only reason its there in the first place, let's face it. Even Arabs find the Gulf hard going heat-wise.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Nodin wrote: »
    Nothing to do with pedantry - muslims are not a race..

    Several scholars consider Islamophobia as a form of racism.[17] A 2007 article in Journal of Sociology defines Islamophobia as anti-Muslim racism and a continuation of anti-Asian and anti-Arab racism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    Their country, their rules


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Several scholars consider Islamophobia as a form of racism.[17] A 2007 article in Journal of Sociology defines Islamophobia as anti-Muslim racism and a continuation of anti-Asian and anti-Arab racism

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia


    That's a view, but it certainly isn't racism in the normal sense. Nor would a racist motive for banning muslim attire be any more acceptable than a sectarian one.

    Now -

    What relevance have "western countries" to the dress code in qatar?

    What relevance has "only white people............" to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Nodin wrote: »
    List of reasons not to have it in Quatar

    1- Treament of workers
    2 - It's a conservative monarchy
    3 - The heat
    4 - The whole thing with the drink
    5 - The dress code

    Feel free to add.

    Number one is a strange one, how many people on this thread right now are wearing clothes/using electronics made in India/China in unfair working conditions (out of sight, out of mind). Agree with the rest though, plus they have no football history whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    ryan101 wrote: »
    Their country, their rules

    Fair enough, so nobody should go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Fair enough, so nobody should go.

    I think it should be boycotted if the corrupt bid can be proven. That heat is not suitable for a world cup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Number one is a strange one, how many people on this thread right now are wearing clothes/using electronics made in India/China in unfair working conditions (out of sight, out of mind). .

    One can hardly take action about or object to what one knows nothing whatsoever about.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Nodin wrote: »
    One can hardly take action about or object to what one knows nothing whatsoever about.

    Ah now in fairness, think of all the publicity that FoxConn have gotten over the years, and they are one of the largest producers of a lot of electronic goods, including the iphone


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I really wish we could end our addiction to Oil and Gas so that these bigots could just vanish back into the desert that they crawled out of. Their treatment of migrant workers is absolute disgrace and I know a Filipina girl working out there with the last 6 months and her life is horrible. Suicides are common amongst migrant workers and if a woman is raped by a local and she reports it she will be charged with adultery and lashed.

    Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the wahhabis are the single biggest threat to world peace today and their brand of Islamic Fundamentalism is disgusting. Once our dependence of fossil fuels ends it will be fun to watch this place implode.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭zetalambda


    Check out the Islamic Sportswear section on this site. "move with modesty" :D

    http://www.shukr.co.uk/Sportswear-C106.aspx


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