Qatar Dress Code

Nino Brown

In Qatar, they're distributing leaflets telling people how to dress. I wonder how well it would go down, if western countries told Muslims to stop wearing Hijabs in public, or we'll lock you up because it's not our culture.

You could get 6 months in prison for wearing something they don't like in Qatar, or saying something they don't like. It's okay though because only white people can have racist opinions these days, everybody else just has culture differences.

The world cup should be interesting, why would anybody go there?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/qatar-launches-campaign-for-modest-dress-code-for-tourists-9438452.html

Arthur Beesley

Disappointing but not unexpected.

Stheno

In countries like Malta and Spain if you want to visit cathedrals etc, they insist on appropriate dress, to the point of having a basket of pashmina type scarves that women with bare shoulders must wear before they are allowed in

Nodin

Nino Brown wrote: »

In Qatar, they're distributing leaflets telling people how to dress. I wonder how well it would go down, if western countries told Muslims to stop wearing Hijabs in public, or we'll lock you up because it's not our culture.

Well we're western liberal democracies, and they're conservative monarchies, so really I don't know what comparison you're trying to make.

It's okay though because only white people can have racist opinions
these days, everybody else just has culture differences.

What has racism got to do with what you posted, exactly?

AnonoBoy

Stheno wrote: »

In countries like Malta and Spain if you want to visit cathedrals etc, they insist on appropriate dress, to the point of having a basket of pashmina type scarves that women with bare shoulders must wear before they are allowed in

Yeah but that's visiting religious sites not walking around in the street.

I don't think they should be hosting the World Cup if they can't handle women wearing shorts.

Nino Brown

Stheno wrote: »

In countries like Malta and Spain if you want to visit cathedrals etc, they insist on appropriate dress, to the point of having a basket of pashmina type scarves that women with bare shoulders must wear before they are allowed in

That's a bit different though, it's a private building, they have a right to decide who they allow in, sort of like night clubs used to have dress codes here.

Nino Brown

Nodin wrote: »

What has racism got to do with what you posted, exactly?

What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months in prison?

Nodin

Nino Brown wrote: »

What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months on prison?

From who? Certainly I wouldn't be in favour of imposing a dress code on anyone.

Is there some point you are trying to make?

Why did you mention raicism in your op?

shruikan2553

No leggings? Glass them.

Skylinehead

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Yeah but that's visiting religious sites not walking around in the street.

I don't think they should be hosting the World Cup if they can't handle women wearing shorts.

They shouldn't be hosting the World Cup for a hell of a lot more reasons than that.

Nino Brown

Nodin wrote: »

From who? Certainly I wouldn't be in favour of imposing a dress code on anyone.

Is there some point you are trying to make?

Why did you mention raicism in your op?

Because we would be considered racist if we did these things.

corner of hells

shruikan2553 wrote: »

No leggings? Glass them.

With a pint glass ?

Nodin

Nino Brown wrote: »

Because we would be considered racist if we did these things.

Muslims aren't a race. It would be a sectarian act.

I still don't understand what point you're trying to make in the OP.

Tombi!

Well, the thing is, in those countries it's different culture.
Here we're not so much "anti-hijab" as much as their "pro-hijab" in those countries.

All in all if you don't want to dress a certain way that's part of the culture then don't go there.

Nodin

corner of hells wrote: »

With a pint glass ?

List of reasons not to have it in Quatar

1- Treament of workers
2 - It's a conservative monarchy
3 - The heat
4 - The whole thing with the drink
5 - The dress code

Feel free to add.

humbert

Nino Brown wrote: »

What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months in prison?

People would think we were not a tolerant liberal democracy.

But I assume what you're going for is, look at them not tolerating us, why should we be expected to tolerate them?

Nino Brown

Nodin wrote: »

Muslims aren't a race. It would be a sectarian act.

I still don't understand what point you're trying to make in the OP.

I'm okay with you not understanding if you want to be pedantic.

Stheno

Nino Brown wrote: »

What would be the response be if we made wearing Hijabs in public punishable by 6 months in prison?

Isn't it illegal in France now?

edit: It is and punishable by a fine, different mind you from prison, and went to the European court to be challenged

Until recently it was also widely banned in Turkey

Arthur Beesley

Nodin wrote: »

List of reasons not to have it in Quatar

1- Treament of workers
2 - It's a conservative monarchy
3 - The heat
4 - The whole thing with the drink
5 - The dress code

Feel free to add.

6 - Corruption.

Nodin

Nino Brown wrote: »

I'm okay with you not understanding if you want to be pedantic.

Nothing to do with pedantry - muslims are not a race..

You talk about the dress code in Qatar, which is straightforward enough, then its

I wonder how well it would go down, if western countries told Muslims to stop wearing Hijabs in public, or we'll lock you up because it's not our culture.

You could get 6 months in prison for wearing something they
don't like in Qatar, or saying something they don't like. It's okay though
because only white people can have racist opinions these days, everybody else
just has culture differences.

What relevance have "western countries" to it?

What relevance has "only white people............" to it?

Nodin

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

6 - Corruption.

...which is the only reason its there in the first place, let's face it. Even Arabs find the Gulf hard going heat-wise.

Nino Brown

Nodin wrote: »

Nothing to do with pedantry - muslims are not a race..

Several scholars consider Islamophobia as a form of racism.[17] A 2007 article in Journal of Sociology defines Islamophobia as anti-Muslim racism and a continuation of anti-Asian and anti-Arab racism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

ryan101

Their country, their rules

Nodin

Nino Brown wrote: »

Several scholars consider Islamophobia as a form of racism.[17] A 2007 article in Journal of Sociology defines Islamophobia as anti-Muslim racism and a continuation of anti-Asian and anti-Arab racism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia

That's a view, but it certainly isn't racism in the normal sense. Nor would a racist motive for banning muslim attire be any more acceptable than a sectarian one.

Now -

What relevance have "western countries" to the dress code in qatar?

What relevance has "only white people............" to it?

Nino Brown

Nodin wrote: »

List of reasons not to have it in Quatar

1- Treament of workers
2 - It's a conservative monarchy
3 - The heat
4 - The whole thing with the drink
5 - The dress code

Feel free to add.

Number one is a strange one, how many people on this thread right now are wearing clothes/using electronics made in India/China in unfair working conditions (out of sight, out of mind). Agree with the rest though, plus they have no football history whatsoever.

Nino Brown

ryan101 wrote: »

Their country, their rules

Fair enough, so nobody should go.

ryan101

Nino Brown wrote: »

Fair enough, so nobody should go.

I think it should be boycotted if the corrupt bid can be proven. That heat is not suitable for a world cup.

Nodin

Nino Brown wrote: »

Number one is a strange one, how many people on this thread right now are wearing clothes/using electronics made in India/China in unfair working conditions (out of sight, out of mind). .

One can hardly take action about or object to what one knows nothing whatsoever about.

Stheno

Nodin wrote: »

One can hardly take action about or object to what one knows nothing whatsoever about.

Ah now in fairness, think of all the publicity that FoxConn have gotten over the years, and they are one of the largest producers of a lot of electronic goods, including the iphone

Stinicker

I really wish we could end our addiction to Oil and Gas so that these bigots could just vanish back into the desert that they crawled out of. Their treatment of migrant workers is absolute disgrace and I know a Filipina girl working out there with the last 6 months and her life is horrible. Suicides are common amongst migrant workers and if a woman is raped by a local and she reports it she will be charged with adultery and lashed.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the wahhabis are the single biggest threat to world peace today and their brand of Islamic Fundamentalism is disgusting. Once our dependence of fossil fuels ends it will be fun to watch this place implode.

zetalambda

Check out the Islamic Sportswear section on this site. "move with modesty"

http://www.shukr.co.uk/Sportswear-C106.aspx

Nodin

Stheno wrote: »

Ah now in fairness, think of all the publicity that FoxConn have gotten over the years, and they are one of the largest producers of a lot of electronic goods, including the iphone

Bad as it is, it pales to the lunacy going on in Qatar.

Nino Brown

Stinicker wrote: »

I really wish we could end our addiction to Oil and Gas so that these bigots could just vanish back into the desert that they crawled out of. Their treatment of migrant workers is absolute disgrace and I know a Filipina girl working out there with the last 6 months and her life is horrible. Suicides are common amongst migrant workers and if a woman is raped by a local and she reports it she will be charged with adultery and lashed.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar and the wahhabis are the single biggest threat to world peace today and their brand of Islamic Fundamentalism is disgusting. Once our dependence of fossil fuels ends it will be fun to watch this place implode.

Yeah, I don't see many farms in the desert, we can sell them spuds for $100 a barrel! See how they like it.

Nodin

Nino Brown wrote: »

Yeah, I don't see many farms in the desert, we can sell them spuds for $100 a barrel! See how they like it.

leave them out too long and ye'd get roast spuds quick enough.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doha
Only 3 possible months for it, as far as I can see.

Pat Mustard

Qatar has fashion police. Marvellous.

Imagine the Irish version of that: pyjamas in a public place.

kingchess

so hot-all the more reason to cover up,skin cancer etc??

Nodin

kingchess wrote: »

so hot-all the more reason to cover up,skin cancer etc??

Sunstroke, dehyrdration......the more knowledgable will probably regale us with horrors in due time.

Tail Docker

Nodin wrote: »

From who? Certainly I wouldn't be in favour of imposing a dress code on anyone.

Is there some point you are trying to make?

Why did you mention raicism in your op?

You're for real, right?

Nodin

Tail Docker wrote: »

You're for real, right?

Yep. I don't see the relevance of the other matters.

zetalambda

zetalambda wrote: »

Check out the Islamic Sportswear section on this site. "move with modesty"

http://www.shukr.co.uk/Sportswear-C106.aspx

I was shaking my head at that but then I saw this and it's really pretty
http://www.shukr.co.uk/Printed-Hoodie-P8129C106.aspx

hoodwinked

seriously, why do they want the world cup?

it's going to bring havoc there, possibly too many fans to police, too many fans in their country's football jerseys (women and men in short sleeves possibly shorts to match) its going to be manic!

Nodin

hoodwinked wrote: »

seriously, why do they want the world cup?

it's going to bring havoc there, possibly too many fans to police, too many fans in their country's football jerseys (women and men in short sleeves possibly shorts to match) its going to be manic!

...jiggling bosoms......

anncoates

Skylinehead wrote: »

They shouldn't be hosting the World Cup for a hell of a lot more reasons than that.

Absolutely.

What about panned TV audience shots of women in bras too.

Canis Lupus

anncoates wrote: »

Absolutely.

What about panned TV audience shots of women in bras too.

I imagine for Qatar tv it will be lingering zoomed in shots of womens eyes or ankles.

suicide_circus

hoodwinked wrote: »

seriously, why do they want the world cup?

it's going to bring havoc there, possibly too many fans to police, too many fans in their country's football jerseys (women and men in short sleeves possibly shorts to match) its going to be manic!

I don't think thats gonna happen cause fook all people will go compared to the usual WC because it's gonna be shït.

Nodin

Canis Lupus wrote: »

I imagine for Qatar tv it will be lingering zoomed in shots of womens eyes or ankles.

Going on memory, I think its practice to not show the crowd at all.

woodoo

If at all possible the World Cup should be taken of them. It will be a disaster.

Dick phelan

Islam is a stone age religion, Every country that has Muslim or Sharia law is backward, i will probably get called a bigot racist ect but name one Muslim country anyone would be happy to get up and move to. The recent news of a pregnant woman killed in Pakistan for marrying against her families wishes, the case of the woman in Sudan who married a Christian and is now facing death. Countries governed by Islam or Sharia law are truly horrible inhumane places i feel so sorry for the civilized people of those countries ruled by crackpot relligious fanatics. The world cup in Qatar what a party that will be eh!

MRnotlob606

I'd wouldnt mind a hijab

diveout

Nodin wrote: »

That's a view, but it certainly isn't racism in the normal sense. Nor would a racist motive for banning muslim attire be any more acceptable than a sectarian one.

Now -

What relevance have "western countries" to the dress code in qatar?

What relevance has "only white people............" to it?

Well some theories about anti-Catholicism in the US is that it has racial undertones.

So that one can mask what was contempt for Irish, Italians, Hispanics, Mexicans, and Polish.

kingchess

some people would nearly kill you for a kebab