Mick Wallace starts new party.

27-05-2014 04:01AM

Our Mick is the spit of Robert Plant, should call themselves the Led Zeppelindependents.

foxy farmer · 27-05-2014 04:31AM

Any public representative should be fully tax compliant. Have had no revenue judgements against them and have no criminal convictions. If this was made law today I'd say we'd have a few by-elections tomorrow. What would he wear if he had to meet Michael D in the Aras? Wallace will be held up as the man that got Shatter out. Ffs.

Tail Docker · 27-05-2014 07:37AM

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

How is it a silly hangup to expect a person to dress appropriately for the job they're employed to do? Normal attire for the Dail is a suit. Dressing like a scruff and making a statement that you are doing so in order to more accurately reflect the people you represent is insulting. It's farcical.

Seeing as they spend all day every day sitting on their holes talking, I for one would be happy enough if they just wore pyjamas - appropriate attire for the work involved - they might as well be comfy.

chughes · 27-05-2014 09:01AM

Folks, lots of vitriol about Mick and appearance etc. Can we not just give him some time to enjoy his win in the Euro elections?

He's probably still on a high after this victory

LynnGrace · 27-05-2014 09:15AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Seeing as they spend all day every day sitting on their holes talking, I for one would be happy enough if they just wore pyjamas - appropriate attire for the work involved - they might as well be comfy.

With dressing gowns, I hope

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uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2014 09:53AM

chughes wrote: »

Folks, lots of vitriol about Mick and appearance etc. Can we not just give him some time to enjoy his win in the Euro elections?

He's probably still on a high after this victory

What win in the Euro elections?

BizzyC · 27-05-2014 10:05AM

Wait, how can they keep the name "Independants" if they're part of a party?

the groutch · 27-05-2014 10:23AM

It'll probably be a while before it's registered as a party, as there's minimum membership required to achieve that status.

Pumpkinseeds · 27-05-2014 10:26AM

Brendan Substantial Plank wrote: »

If your main concern is how a member of government is dressed, it's worrying.

He could wear a black bin liner for all I care, how the country is governed is what's important.

Boohoo, Jesus wept.

Why buy when you cannot afford? That's their own stupidity.

Somebody in the dail made a few bob, in what is now a taboo area. :rolleyes:

Where did I say that how he dressed is my main concern? Perhaps you should think first before rushing to write a sarcastic post.

MRnotlob606 · 27-05-2014 10:27AM

sassy will they give me a free hot dog,?

blackwhite · 27-05-2014 10:39AM

Phoebas wrote: »

Is this 'In before...' thing the boards equivalent of a child saying 'No catchbacks' before a game of chasing?

It's just trying to silence any negative comments about their heroes.

Banjo String · 27-05-2014 10:45AM

blackwhite wrote: »

It's just trying to silence any negative comments about their heroes.

No, he's not a hero of mine. I actually think he's a bit of an eejit tbh, however, an eejit that ultimately caused Shatter to fall from his perch.

(unwittingly at the time too)

blackwhite · 27-05-2014 10:48AM

Banjo String wrote: »

No, he's not a hero of mine. I actually think he's a bit of an eejit tbh, however, an eejit that ultimately caused Shatter to fall from his perch.

(unwittingly at the time too)

But you still want to silence any criticism of him?

EDIT - just because it's predictable criticism doesn't make it less valid.

Banjo String · 27-05-2014 10:50AM

blackwhite wrote: »

But you still want to silence any criticism of him?

EDIT - just because it's predictable criticism doesn't make it less valid.

Where did I attempt to silence any criticism?

In before looney left/tax dodger was me predicting the first comments.

Ans yeah, it did prove to be predictable.

blackwhite · 27-05-2014 10:57AM

Banjo String wrote: »

Where did I attempt to silence any criticism?

In before looney left/tax dodger was me predicting the first comments.

Ans yeah, it did prove to be predictable.

Predictable, but still extremely valid criticism.

j banks · 27-05-2014 11:05AM

If my memory serves me correctly wasn't it the clean shaven well dressed boyos that wrecked the country

blackwhite · 27-05-2014 11:15AM

j banks wrote: »

If my memory serves me correctly wasn't it the clean shaven well dressed boyos that wrecked the country

I'd hardly call this well-dressed

http://f3.thejournal.ie/media/2012/03/200-BERTIE-AHERN-310x415.jpg

(nor would I have described many of our property developers - including the one this thread is about - as well dressed either BTW).

geeksauce · 27-05-2014 11:18AM

joe swanson wrote: »

The mans a disgrace. A failed developer who held no regard for decent tax payers of this country. It astounds me he is still in the dail.

He appears to have done a complete about turn since he was making millions from building and selling houses at huge mark up to people who could ill afford it.

I despair for this country that people are sucked in by his rubbish. IM no fan of the main parties either but this man should not even be in the dail after what he has done in my opinion. I sincerely hope people come to their senses and see this man and his cronies for what they are. In an attempt to stick it to the main parties we may make things worse.

Agree 100%, hopefully people wont be so stupid to vote for him again, but I wont hold my breath I never thought he would get close to being elected first time round, but then I never accounted for the stupidity of the general public.

The man made his millions during the boom, didn't pay his taxes, transferred his assets to family members out of reach of the taxman, put many small business people out of business by not paying them what he owed. Then decided he needed a cushy number and somehow managed to get elected in effect screwing the honest tax payer a second time, and yet there are still some stupid people out there that support him.

And all of that is before I even mention his lack of respect for the office he holds.

ryan101 · 27-05-2014 11:21AM

blackwhite wrote: »

I'd hardly call this well-dressed

http://f3.thejournal.ie/media/2012/03/200-BERTIE-AHERN-310x415.jpg

The Don in the photo does not seem impressed with your post.

ryan101 · 27-05-2014 11:22AM

geeksauce wrote: »

Agree 100%, hopefully people wont be so stupid to vote for him again, but I wont hold my breath I never thought he would get close to being elected first time round, but then I never accounted for the stupidity of the general public.

The man made his millions during the boom, didn't pay his taxes, transferred his assets to family members out of reach of the taxman, put many small business people out of business by not paying them what he owed. Then decided he needed a cushy number and somehow managed to get elected in effect screwing the honest tax payer a second time, and yet there are still some stupid people out there that support him.

And all of that is before I even mention his lack of respect for the office he holds.

That sounds exactly like every other politician in this "country".

L'Enfer du Nord · 27-05-2014 12:33PM

The long hair, the pink shirt, the association with a soccer team, the vague left wing rhetoric. These are all an effective diversion from who is and what he's done. Look at the facts in relation to his career as a developer and his conduct in relation to penalty points.

suicide_circus · 27-05-2014 12:37PM

Mick's dress code is not the issue.

For me, the problem is that he paints himself as a new-age alternative to the establishment where as he is in fact one of the many builder/developers who over stretched himself due to his greed and ego, flogging wildly over priced property and making a killing.

Then things went tits up and he capitalised on the populist soundbite drivel and get himself elected.

When mick was making his obscene bubble money, not a peep out of him.

If he was so concerned for the country, he would have done well to pay his taxes.

He's a spoofer and as such well suited to politics.

L'Enfer du Nord · 27-05-2014 12:48PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

When mick was making his obscene bubble money, not a peep out of him.

If he was so concerned for the country, he would have done well to pay his taxes.

He's a spoofer and as such well suited to politics.

I agree he's a spoofer, however I think he was always a bit of a soundbite merchant, he had a prominent banner against the invasion of Iraq on one of his sites.

I'd like to see a list of his developments to see if there was anything behind it, but he did seem to argue for a different type of development, also used to bang on about Italy as a model for urban design, specifically Turin I think. Hence the Italian quarter.

Which is ironic because what ever about their cities being something to admire (most of which is pre-20th century) certainly their politics and attitude to paying tax are nothing to admire.

Davarus Walrus · 27-05-2014 12:51PM

L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »

I agree he's a spoofer, however I think he was always a bit of a soundbite merchant, he had a prominent banner against the invasion of Iraq on one of his sites.

I'd like to see a list of his developments to see if there was anything behind it, but he did seem to argue for a different type of development, also used to bang on about Italy as a model for urban design, specifically Turin I think. Hence the Italian quarter.

Which is ironic because what ever about their cities being something to admire (most of which is pre-20th century) certainly their politics and attitude to paying tax are nothing to admire.

As an aside, I've always found the use of the phrase Italian Quarter to describe a short street with a pizzeria and an Italian red sauce restaurant on it to be really cringe inducing. Nearly as cringey as listening to Mick Wallace talk about things he clearly doesn't understand.

galwayredgirl · 27-05-2014 03:24PM

mickdw wrote: »

I like Wallace but it's pretty sick that he not only couldn't pay his taxes but if I remember right purposely defrauded the taxman and vat man. If I did that, I would do jail time.
He shouldn't be in the dial.

"dial"?

Dan_Solo · 27-05-2014 03:36PM

Davarus Walrus wrote: »

As an aside, I've always found the use of the phrase Italian Quarter

I thought they were called Latin Quarter usually? Or is that only when you can buy tacos?

ryan101 · 27-05-2014 04:08PM

Wallace is just in the Dail to take the piss out of a corrupt system that is beyond repair, he's just more up front about it.
The systems in this country are not worthy of any respect.
Let's face it the others have been getting away with taking the piss for years.

L'Enfer du Nord · 27-05-2014 06:43PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

I thought they were called Latin Quarter usually? Or is that only when you can buy tacos?

No the Latin Quarter is around Quay Street in Galway, where all those 'Latin' pubs are.

wicklowstevo · 27-05-2014 07:01PM

He still owes a lot of people in wexford a lot of money for various projects , might be he is going to pay them back with his big fat party leaders allowance !!

he is a gangster and a ccrook and any one who votes for him again really deserves to have him.

having meet him in person a few times he also comes across as an arrogant bully , no wonder he didnt feel like paying his tax bill

mickdw · 27-05-2014 10:12PM

galwayredgirl wrote: »

"dial"?

Opps. Damn phone doing auto correct. Thought I typed parliament!

Mick Wallace starts new party.

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