Anti-Irish (and anti-immigrant) councillor elected in Northern Ireland

Tail Docker · 26-05-2014 09:18PM

frimpong wrote: »

Was there a need to include the word orange in that sentence?

"Tanned" better?

Kristopherus · 26-05-2014 09:24PM

okedoke wrote: »

I wonder is she anything to Ronnie Bunting (Protestant INLA member)?

Well his father was a loyalist firebrand a la Paisley, whom he had a a close relationship in the lat 70s, early 80s.

Shakespeare's Sister · 26-05-2014 09:28PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I have heard the same bile spoken about English people and members of the protestant faith down here over the years

From an elected councillor?
Also, I don't understand what point you're making. Does that make what she spews any less wrong? Are you saying criticism of one means the other is being let off the hook, as opposed to it being quite straightforward to be critical of both?
Yes there are bigots down here, but this thread is about her.

When people whatabout, they should have a think-through what the actual point of it is.

mikeym · 26-05-2014 09:29PM

Im not surprised that an anti-irish/foreigner would get elected.

Even Ian Paisley mellowed out over time.

Karl Stein · 26-05-2014 09:35PM

What do we want?

Flegs!

When do we want them?

1690!

Lingua Franca · 26-05-2014 09:36PM

Ah, there's more!

"Weed cures... leukemia and all at" "Buy my bongs!"

https://www.facebook.com/BELFASTLAD/photos/a.167845846753708.1073741828.167750270096599/251723251699300/?type=1&theater

Mind you, they also fielded this wee scrote: http://ladbelfast.tumblr.com/post/82329146246/an-exchange-between-lad-and-the-tuv-election

Standards, the TUV have none.

Kiwi in IE · 26-05-2014 09:38PM

And Sinn Fein want her and those who voted for her to become citizens of the Republic?

I actually agree with the majority of Sinn Fein's policies with the exception of that very bad one.

Cookie_Monster · 26-05-2014 09:43PM

"Them f-ckers sent my Census form back!! In answer to one question, 'Do you have any dependants your paying for?', I put, 'MP's, , Asylym Seekers, gypos, smack heads, paedophilles, prisoner's, the cast of the Jeremy Kyle Show, Northern Rock, RBS, Greece, portugal, Ireland, and half of f-ckin Eastern Europe!....."

It's amazing how many people in the past week have turned out to have put that on their census forms - all over the world too.

bear1 · 26-05-2014 09:54PM

I wonder does it piss her right off that the place she lives in has Ireland in the title....
What a sad woman. The census though was funny

RDM_83 again · 26-05-2014 10:06PM

"ring asda [phone number given] an complain, they're selling st patrick day cards wi a big f-cking tri colour on them but wudnt sell dvds or prince williams wedding in case they offended anyone,took bread of shelves cause it had a wee union jack on it,pass this to all offended protestants.

"Them f-ckers sent my Census form back!! In answer to one question, 'Do you have any dependants your paying for?', I put, 'MP's, , Asylym Seekers, gypos, smack heads, paedophilles, prisoner's, the cast of the Jeremy Kyle Show, Northern Rock, RBS, Greece, portugal, Ireland, and half of f-ckin Eastern Europe!....."

I for one am very disturbed by this trend in modern day hardline Unionist politics.

She didn't mention God or Sodomy once

okedoke · 26-05-2014 10:27PM

Kristopherus wrote: »

Well his father was a loyalist firebrand a la Paisley, whom he had a a close relationship in the lat 70s, early 80s.

I know, that's why I thought there might be a connection.

BuilderPlumber · 26-05-2014 10:37PM

mikeym wrote: »

Im not surprised that an anti-irish/foreigner would get elected.

Even Ian Paisley mellowed out over time.

A lot of these including Ian Paisley were clever politicians who gave their audience what they wanted to hear. Paisley took a hard line on the IRA and on a Catholic threat. He did this for 2 reasons: the IRA were a real and present danger to protestants and citizens of NI who wanted to remain part of the UK. And secondly Catholicism was a threat to protestantism and Ian was the head of his own church! Big Ian and his party took a very different view in European elections: he was very supportive of farmers north and south when he was representing Irish agriculture against EU bureaucracy. Again, he was playing to an audience. He moderated his policies later on wrt the IRA and Catholicism: he was able to adapt, reinvent himself and he was (love him or hate him) a very successful politician. Had he been a true bigot, he would have been much less successful.

BuilderPlumber · 26-05-2014 10:47PM

okedoke wrote: »

I wonder is she anything to Ronnie Bunting (Protestant INLA member)?

The INLA were probably in their time the most fanatical of the Provo splinter groups. The 1970s and 1980s equivalent of today's Real IRA, only much more brutal and active.

Bunting came full circle from fanatic UVF/UDA/UDF type background to being a fanatic IRA activist. It may sound impossible but it is more common than one imagines.

Looking at Republican and Loyalist terrorists shows that at first glance they are indistinguishable in appearance: balaclava clad toughies with muscle to spare. Overweight but on muscle. Tattoos.

In politics, both oppose the existing entities in Ireland. Far from being loyal to the modern British system, loyalist terrorists see it as getting in their way of setting up their dream supposedly protestant state. Loyalist terrorists don't like the Republic either but to a lesser extent than how the IRA felt about the UK. The IRAs and other republican terrorists likewise see the Irish state as a similar obstacle to setting up their dream supposedly catholic state.

So. Have loyalists and republicans of a terrorist nature common enemies? Yes. Could they work together if it suited? Of course. Have we seen recently Real IRA or dissident loyalists go to war with each other? No. Strange as it seems, they are no longer enemies and both oppose the peace process and have ironically found themselves on the same side with common enemies.

Muise... · 26-05-2014 10:55PM

Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, JOLEEEEENE, you have Dolly Parton ringing in my ears now, and your surname is a gift to rhyming slang. Definitely one to watch.

okedoke · 26-05-2014 11:00PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

The INLA were probably in their time the most fanatical of the Provo splinter groups. The 1970s and 1980s equivalent of today's Real IRA, only much more brutal and active.

Bunting came full circle from fanatic UVF/UDA/UDF type background to being a fanatic IRA activist. It may sound impossible but it is more common than one imagines.

Looking at Republican and Loyalist terrorists shows that at first glance they are indistinguishable in appearance: balaclava clad toughies with muscle to spare. Overweight but on muscle. Tattoos.

In politics, both oppose the existing entities in Ireland. Far from being loyal to the modern British system, loyalist terrorists see it as getting in their way of setting up their dream supposedly protestant state. Loyalist terrorists don't like the Republic either but to a lesser extent than how the IRA felt about the UK. The IRAs and other republican terrorists likewise see the Irish state as a similar obstacle to setting up their dream supposedly catholic state.

So. Have loyalists and republicans of a terrorist nature common enemies? Yes. Could they work together if it suited? Of course. Have we seen recently Real IRA or dissident loyalists go to war with each other? No. Strange as it seems, they are no longer enemies and both oppose the peace process and have ironically found themselves on the same side with common enemies.

Couple of points:
the INLA was a splinter from the Officials not the Provos
The similarities you point out between Loyalists & Republicans: the tatoos/overweight..etc - generally this look would be associated with loyalists rather than republicans I would think (with many exceptions on both sides I'm sure). Besides, presumably all illegal terrorist organisations use balaclavas for obvious reasons.
Some other odd views about loyalism and republicanism in the rest of your post.

The Backwards Man · 26-05-2014 11:06PM

There isn't anymore hatefilled bigoted lunatics in the north than there is anywhere else in the world, believe it or not. The problem is they are given far too much oxygen.

NIMAN · 26-05-2014 11:08PM

As shocking as it is that she got elected, I suppose this is democracy we are talking about. She ran, people voted for her. Not much we can do about it.

Cork boy 55 · 26-05-2014 11:11PM

Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene
I'm begging of you please don't take Ulster
Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene
Please don't take it just because you can

OldMrBrennan83 · 26-05-2014 11:12PM

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pablomakaveli · 26-05-2014 11:20PM

Could have been worse though. That woman who wanted to recriminalize homosexuality didn't get elected.

woodoo · 26-05-2014 11:29PM

She is a bad looking aul mare.

Lastlight. · 26-05-2014 11:58PM

Well Sinn Fein get ex terrorists elected and that seems fine. She got elected by her people.

SharpshooterTom · 27-05-2014 12:21AM

Lastlight. wrote: »

Well Sinn Fein get ex terrorists elected and that seems fine. She got elected by her people.

Yeah great, with that attitude Northern Ireland will always be a permanently dividied society, how about trying to integrate the country by getting rid of these morons, why is that so difficult? No other western democracy would put up with the divisions Northern Ireland has, and no one's sadly doing anything about it.

Don't worry though, nationalism didn't exactly cover themeselves in glory either electing a god damn dissident in Derry! :mad:

dd972 · 27-05-2014 12:56AM

the_syco wrote: »

I see it as ironic that she doesn't like immigrants, yet she's most likely a descendent of a Scottish or British immigrant... :pac:

That's the elephant in the room for our Orange neighbours, the more bigoted they are the more likely it preys deep down in their minds that they are the interlopers and the ''Taigs'' are the real Ulstermen.

wazky · 27-05-2014 01:01AM

Lastlight. wrote: »

She got elected by her people.

'People' would be a very loose term for her supporters...

Kermit.de.frog · 27-05-2014 01:04AM

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"Them f-ckers sent my Census form back!! In answer to one question, 'Do you have any dependants your paying for?', I put, 'MP's, , Asylym Seekers, gypos, smack heads, paedophilles, prisoner's, the cast of the Jeremy Kyle Show, Northern Rock, RBS, Greece, portugal, Ireland, and half of f-ckin Eastern Europe!....."

Wait so she thinks the mighty northern irish taxpayer is paying for all this does she?

And there I was thinking for years that the north was the biggest leech ever when it comes to the Brits. I must have been wrong.

Arthur Beesley · 27-05-2014 01:05AM

kingchess wrote: »

the census return is very funny:o

And arguably not wrong.

Arthur Beesley · 27-05-2014 01:07AM

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene
I'm begging of you please don't take Ulster
Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene
Please don't take it just because you can

She can have it and her 6 counties.

Nodin · 27-05-2014 01:09AM

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

And arguably not wrong.

No, its the usual bigoted aul cack.

wazky · 27-05-2014 01:26AM

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

And arguably not wrong.

Who does she reckon props up her beloved six counties?, with its obscene security bill.

Anti-Irish (and anti-immigrant) councillor elected in Northern Ireland

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