How far do you take counting calories?

MrStuffins · 26-05-2014 10:52AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

OK let me turn it on its head...

Are the successful calorie counters the ones who cut out carbs and ate protein & fats

OR
Are they the ones who kept eating the same stuff* that made them fat... but just ate less of that same stuff*??

stuff = diet including carbs/sugar

Well, i'm a successful calorie counter and I didn't change too much. Started by cutting out fizzy drinks and switching to water (with some dilute). Then switched to Low Fat milk, then switched to Brown Bread (no real difference in calories but it's just better for me) etc etc. Just small incremental changes. But I still eat now what I ate then. I haven't got the healthiest of diets but I just don't "overeat" anymore really.

Before I started using MFP, I had no idea I was consuming so many calories. Everything adds up.
I'm trying to lose a stone before my holiday in July at 1 lb per week. I consume a little bit more than my break-even calories each day and I supplement the deficit by walking to work, walking from work and training BJJ. I'm actually ahead of schedule with the weight loss.

Next step is to really start a healthy "diet" but for the time being i'm eating well enough and dropping the weight so one step at a time.

diarmuid05 · 26-05-2014 10:57AM

Davei141 wrote: »

Why the stuff about carbs and sugar?

I believe it's what makes us fat...
I believe removing it from our diets will result in weight loss no matter what else or how much you eat

diarmuid05 · 26-05-2014 10:58AM

I'm trying to see if anyone has done it by some other method

Essien · 26-05-2014 11:00AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

I'm trying to see if anyone has done it by some other method

You mean you want to know if anybody has lost weight while eating a lot of carbs?

Blacktie. · 26-05-2014 11:00AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

What i am trying to say is...

Of all the people that have successfully lost weight...

Has anybody achieved it without changing the make up of their diet.
Have they achieved it by simply eating less i.e. counting calories

That's what I done at the beginning and I've lost ~7kg but my diet was pretty spot on as it was.

Alf Veedersane · 26-05-2014 11:00AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

I believe it's what makes us fat...
I believe removing it from our diets will result in weight loss no matter what else or how much you eat

So basically, a low carb-high fat diet where you get to eat as much as you want and lose weight?

Et tu, Bruno?

Davei141 · 26-05-2014 11:01AM

Well i got to my leanest ever eating a kilo of potatoes a day. Never felt better either.

Blacktie. · 26-05-2014 11:02AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

I believe it's what makes us fat...
I believe removing it from our diets will result in weight loss no matter what else or how much you eat

Ok well now I think you're trolling. Hi pseudo Bruno!

ALL. PLEASE SEE BEGINNING OF POST

Please let's not let this turn into a carbs/gluten/paleo debate.

diarmuid05 · 26-05-2014 11:04AM

Davei141 wrote: »

Well i got to my leanest ever eating a kilo of potatoes a day. Never felt better either.

Cheers,

I'd be interested in hearing more about that...

diarmuid05 · 26-05-2014 11:06AM

Blacktie. wrote: »

Ok well now I think you're trolling. Hi pseudo Bruno!

ALL. PLEASE SEE BEGINNING OF POST

I was just laying my cards on the table... not Bruno by the way... although we do agree on a lot of things...

I just want to hear about success stories that are specifically from calories counting not from diet changes

Blacktie. · 26-05-2014 11:09AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

I was just laying my cards on the table... not Bruno by the way... although we do agree on a lot of things...

I just want to hear about success stories that are specifically from calories counting not from diet changes

I'd say it's extremely rare that they're exclusive of each other.

Alf Veedersane · 26-05-2014 11:10AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

I just want to hear about success stories that are specifically from calories counting not from diet changes

Most people make at least some changes to their diet when they're calorie counting, especialy if their diet is poor.

Davei141 · 26-05-2014 11:13AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

Cheers,

I'd be interested in hearing more about that...

IF 16/8 split that consisted of 3/4 meals a day, each meal consisted of about 300g of potatoes, vegetables/beans (proper beans like kidney etc) and a protein/fat source (Eggs, liver, cheese, chicken, beef, fish etc) Not a lot to it, felt fantastic and worked out a few times a week. Weekends would consist of taking it easy with a boatload of roast potatoes and chicken thighs/legs or burgers/ Spanish omelettes etc. I didn't eat any junk, everything i ate had nutrition, including my carb source...

diarmuid05 · 26-05-2014 11:14AM

Blacktie. wrote: »

I'd say it's extremely rare that they're exclusive of each other.

Without sounding like a troll again....

If you turn that on it's head

Has anybody ever failed to lose weight when they counted calories but didn't improve their diet?

Blacktie. · 26-05-2014 11:17AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

Without sounding like a troll again....

If you turn that on it's head

Has anybody ever failed to lose weight when they counted calories but didn't improve their diet?

You're not going to find answer to these questions here. I'm sure some people have but I put that down to mis reporting what they're eating. Anyway people who would have not improved their diet would not be on this forum reading these threads.

conzy · 26-05-2014 11:19AM

I would not count stuff like ketchup, milk in tea, leafy salad, small portions of tomato etc but everything else gets counted.

Its not actually a huge inconvenience and i like having the stats / that level of control over my diet. Scales is the most used appliance in our house :pac:

Build sandwiches / baps on the scales and zero after each ingredient. **

** You may die if you eat bread

mulbot · 26-05-2014 11:22AM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

Without sounding like a troll again....

If you turn that on it's head

Has anybody ever failed to lose weight when they counted calories but didn't improve their diet?

We'll I've worked with people who lost weight but failed to lose much body fat when they didn't improve diet

Blacktie. · 26-05-2014 11:22AM

conzy wrote: »

**

** You may die if you eat bread

Got a good laugh out of that. Now people are looking at me funny.

Rubber_Soul · 26-05-2014 12:13PM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

I'm not promoting it.... i'm asking has anybody achieved it?

It's completely anecdotal but this guy has http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

runawaybishop · 26-05-2014 02:46PM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

What i am trying to say is...

Of all the people that have successfully lost weight...

Has anybody achieved it without changing the make up of their diet.
Have they achieved it by simply eating less i.e. counting calories

Yes. I am currently cutting and have just reduced portion sizes. My protein intake is fixed though.

Greenduck · 26-05-2014 03:03PM

diarmuid05 wrote: »

I'm not promoting it.... i'm asking has anybody achieved it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2633736/I-lost-3st-eating-vast-mono-meals-Controversial-diet-guru-eats-5lb-potatoes-one-says-single-food-feasts-key-weight-loss-health.html

This girl proclaims she does? I'm not sure though...

How far do you take counting calories?

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