Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

Happyman42 · 25-05-2014 02:39PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Anonymity is a right not an excuse. If someone chooses to excersise that right when strangers demand to know who they voted for then maybe you should respect their wishes.
Or is the old shinner tactic of bullying and intimidation still alive and well?

"They haven't gone away you know" seems a very appropriate quote about now.

The idea that somebody could be 'bullied' into revealing something on an anonymous internet forum is in the realm of the usual hysterical over reactions of those with only one agenda.
The fact that somebody comes on here to spew their biased vitriol about SF while refusing to say which of the established parties (that have for generations let their people down) they voted for, speaks volumes in itself. Volumes that I am free to interpret any which way I want.
Proud of what you stand for or shame/embarassment for what you stand for. Very little in-between imo.

dj jarvis · 25-05-2014 03:10PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

The idea that somebody could be 'bullied' into revealing something on an anonymous internet forum is in the realm of the usual hysterical over reactions of those with only one agenda.
The fact that somebody comes on here to spew their biased vitriol about SF while refusing to say which of the established parties (that have for generations let their people down) they voted for, speaks volumes in itself. Volumes that I am free to interpret any which way I want.
Proud of what you stand for or shame/embarassment for what you stand for. Very little in-between imo.

still posting ****e to cover up that you were and are out of line trying to bully my vote decision form me , well listen up - its none of your ****ing business

no one give a **** what you think - or "interpret" as you put it ,
becasue you are wrong , now dont mention me or anything about my vote again

only embarrassment on this thread is you

Happyman42 · 25-05-2014 03:17PM

Voting for the same thing and expecting change is what is embarrassing about the Irish electorate...they are being won over though.
Will we see a change in policy from this doomed bunch of dead TD's walking? You bet you will...pride in what they stand for will take second place to a pathetic attempt to save their comfy seats.

p.s. I note the 'threat/bullying' inherent in this, with mild amusement and boredom:

dj jarvis wrote:

now dont mention me or anything about my vote again

bumper234 · 25-05-2014 04:31PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

The idea that somebody could be 'bullied' into revealing something on an anonymous internet forum is in the realm of the usual hysterical over reactions of those with only one agenda.
The fact that somebody comes on here to spew their biased vitriol about SF while refusing to say which of the established parties (that have for generations let their people down) they voted for, speaks volumes in itself. Volumes that I am free to interpret any which way I want.
Proud of what you stand for or shame/embarassment for what you stand for. Very little in-between imo.

And you automatically assume that i voted for an "established party" :rolleyes:

The embarrassment knows no bounds.

Happyman42 · 25-05-2014 04:34PM

bumper234 wrote: »

And you automatically assume that i voted for an "established party" :rolleyes:

The embarrassment knows no bounds.

You have given me no option but to guess and that is my guess.

bumper234 · 25-05-2014 04:37PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

You have given me no option but to guess and that is my guess.

Well you can keep guessing until you are blue in the face for all i care.

Reformed Character · 25-05-2014 07:56PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Voting for the same thing and expecting change is what is embarrassing about the Irish electorate...they are being won over though.
Will we see a change in policy from this doomed bunch of dead TD's walking?

That's doubtful , bearing in mind the biggest winners in this election were an "establishment party", namely FF!

Dan_Solo · 25-05-2014 08:13PM

A lot of people here too embarrassed to say which political party they support it seems.
Oh, Fianna Fail doing well in the local elections I see.

bumper234 · 25-05-2014 08:44PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

A lot of people here too embarrassed to say which political party they support it seems.
Oh, Fianna Fail doing well in the local elections I see.

In Dan's world 2+2 makes 99 :rolleyes:

davycc · 25-05-2014 11:48PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

The idea that somebody could be 'bullied' into revealing something on an anonymous internet forum is in the realm of the usual hysterical over reactions of those with only one agenda.
The fact that somebody comes on here to spew their biased vitriol about SF while refusing to say which of the established parties (that have for generations let their people down) they voted for, speaks volumes in itself. Volumes that I am free to interpret any which way I want.
Proud of what you stand for or shame/embarassment for what you stand for. Very little in-between imo.

How has this fine valid reply recieved a red card?

Dan_Solo · 26-05-2014 08:59AM

bumper234 wrote: »

In Dan's world 2+2 makes 99 :rolleyes:

In bumper's world, 2+2 makes lame ad hominems that he has to substitute for logic.

humanji · 26-05-2014 10:11AM

If you've a problem with a mod action, PM a mod and don't derail the thread.

the bolt · 26-05-2014 11:02AM

Beano wrote: »

Because most normal non-psychopathic people dont. We know that Thomas McMahon did get up that morning with the intention of murdering children.

and you know this how?

the bolt · 26-05-2014 11:13AM

Beano wrote: »

You need a history lesson. Bloody Sunday took place in 1972. Mountbatten was murdered in 1979. how could the murder be the direct result of something happened 7 years earlier. The troubles started in the late 60's. Before bloody sunday.

The reason he was killed is quite simple. He was an easy target and was a representation of the establishment. The IRA liked easy targets. Most cowards do.

so you would agree that the brits were cowards on bloody sunday when they murdered innocent civil rights marchers then.

bumper234 · 26-05-2014 11:14AM

the bolt wrote: »

and you know this how?

Well he made a viable explosive device, went out to the harbour and attached that device to a boat, He then handed over the remote control detonator to another terrorist lowlife knowing that within hours Innocent people would be blown to bits by the explosive device that he built, armed and attached to the boat.:rolleyes:

LorMal · 26-05-2014 11:22AM

I remember that day well. Not only did they kill those poor children but they also killed a 79 year old man - his legs blew off and he died after being pulled from the water. Imagine.
Nobody seems to mention this. Is a 79 year old grandad out fishing with his grandkids a 'legitimate target'?
He was a decorated war hero from ww2, he was the last Viceroy of India - who worked with Gandhi to manage the transition to independence in India - he was the Queens Second cousin (You know, that nice old lady who was greeted so warmly here - and who was a very warm and gracious hostess to our President recently).

And what did they achieve by their actions? Nothing but pain and grief and suffering.

Why did they kill these people?. Ignorance, bitterness, intolerance, for glory in their 'Community'.

Savages.

LorMal · 26-05-2014 11:31AM

the bolt wrote: »

so you would agree that the brits were cowards on bloody sunday when they murdered innocent civil rights marchers then.

Lets make it simple for you. One bad act does not condone another. Ever.

Banjo String · 26-05-2014 11:32AM

He was a decorated war hero from ww2, he was the last Viceroy of India - who worked with Gandhi to manage the transition to independence in India - he was the Queens Second cousin (You know, that nice old lady who was greeted so warmly here - and who was a very warm and gracious hostess to our President recently).

Well, I find it amusing that 'that nice old lady, who was his second cousin' welcomed McGuinness with open arms.

She has moved on. As have the Republican movement.

But I suppose you have a better reason to fester hatred than she had?

I suggest you get with the programme and move on too.

LorMal · 26-05-2014 11:43AM

Banjo String wrote: »

Well, I find it amusing that 'that nice old lady, who was his second cousin' welcomed McGuinness with open arms.

She has moved on. As have the Republican movement.

But I suppose you have a better reason to fester hatred than she had?

I suggest you get with the programme and move on too.

I don't 'fester hatred'. I have never deliberately harmed anyone in my life. I have never, you know, killed any Granddads - and not even one child. Maybe I should get with the programme.

Banjo String · 26-05-2014 11:47AM

LorMal wrote: »

I don't 'fester hatred'. I have never deliberately harmed anyone in my life. I have never, you know, killed any Granddads - and not even one child. Maybe I should get with the programme.

You seem to be harboring more moral outrage than the royal family.

LorMal · 26-05-2014 11:53AM

Banjo String wrote: »

You seem to be harboring more moral outrage than the royal family.

The convicted child murderer is canvessing for SF.
SF have no problem with that.
You have no problem with that.
Speaks volumes.
Bye

fergus1001 · 26-05-2014 11:55AM

LorMal wrote: »

The convicted child murderer is canvessing for SF.
SF have no problem with that.
You have no problem with that.
Speaks volumes.
Bye

Shin hate in 3.....2......1

Banjo String · 26-05-2014 12:01PM

LorMal wrote: »

The convicted child murderer is canvessing for SF.
SF have no problem with that.
You have no problem with that.
Speaks volumes.
Bye

The man served his time and adopted a political and peaceful approach through the ballot box, as the terms in the GFA outline.

The royal family don't seem to have a problem with it.

The electorate seemingly haven't much of a problem with it either. SF more than trebled their seats in local government.

Happyman42 · 26-05-2014 12:02PM

LorMal wrote: »

The convicted child murderer is canvessing for SF.
SF have no problem with that.
You have no problem with that.
Speaks volumes.
Bye

Has canvassed on numerous occasions before this, no children died on the canvas.

Lots of children, men and women died in a bloody conflict which is now over.

Happyman42 · 26-05-2014 12:25PM

Anyone else hear RTE interviewing Gerry Adams on the best result ever for SF and asking him 'Will you resign as leader'.
You couldn't make it up.

davycc · 26-05-2014 02:58PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Anyone else hear RTE interviewing Gerry Adams on the best result ever for SF and asking him 'Will you resign as leader'.
You couldn't make it up.

no i missed it but i wouldnt be suprised hating SF is in their offical stance-kills me to pay me tv licence for their biased and generally rubbish programming :mad:

dj jarvis · 26-05-2014 03:33PM

davycc wrote: »

no i missed it but i wouldnt be suprised hating SF is in their offical stance-kills me to pay me tv licence for their biased and generally rubbish programming :mad:

so the state broadcaster is asking a president of a party and a TD some difficult questions pertaining to his past , some of things in his past MAY end up forcing him to resign and it upsets you so much you feel hard done by to pay your licence.

that some crazy logic there !!!!

i would imagine if the leaders of FF/FG/LAB had been linked to child abuse cases and murder(s) , they would probably be asking them the same questions , but funny , NONE of the other leaders have these things linked to them.

Lots on people this thread mistakenly labeling people whom question SF/Gerry's past as anti SF , but in fact , if it was any of the other leaders , the same questions would be asked

looks to me like SF supporters are very sensitive about this kind of questioning
becasue they are not going to like what might fall out of the closet.

mainly skeletons i would imagine.

Banjo String · 26-05-2014 03:42PM

Carthy received almost 115,000 votes.

Slightly behind Ming.

Apparently who was canvassing for him didnt matter too much to 115k of the electorate in the area.

LuckyLloyd · 26-05-2014 03:42PM

First count of the Euro Midlands North West constituency - quota 129,290

Luke 'Ming' Flanagan IND 124,063

Matt Carthy SF 114,727

Mairead McGuinness FG 92,080

Marian Harkin IND 68,986

Pat the Cope Gallagher FF 59,562

Thomas Byrne FF 55,384

Jim Higgins FG 39,908

Rónán Mullen IND 36,326

Lorraine Higgins LAB 31,951

Mark Dearey GP 9,520 (excluded)

Ben Gilroy DDI 7,683 (excluded)

Mark Fitzsimons IND 2,424 (excluded)

TJ Fay IND 2,002 (excluded)

Cordelia Nic Fhearraigh (FN) 1,829 (excluded)

Carthy in good shape to get a seat...

dj jarvis · 26-05-2014 03:45PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Carthy in good shape to get a seat...

looking good - but how the hell did the FF and FG candidates get so many votes ?
it is quiet worrying when FF get so many seats so soon after destroying the country's finances and reputation,
No wonder the stereotype about the thick Irish lives on to this day

Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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