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Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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  • #4862
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    mike65 wrote: »
    The Sunday Stupids

    Liverpool And Arsenal Close To Balotelli Deal Sportsvibe 10:06
    Arsenal & Liverpool At War Over £16m French Striker
    Liverpool plot £40m double Southampton raid FootballFanCast.com 09:06 (as seen above)
    Gossip: Real want Suarez BT Sport 08:47
    Liverpool have been “warned to expect a mega-money” £100m bid from Real...101 Great Goals 07:11

    Tut tut Mike, we only read the Sunday World for solid info.


  • #4863
    SuperTortoise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    jasonb wrote: »
    All this Xabi love reminded me of our 'Best Midfield in the World' song and it got me wondering...

    If you could have the best defence, best midfield or best attackers in the world in your team, which of the three would you prefer to have? This is assuming that the 'best' isn't subjective, and we don't need to start naming / comparing actual players, just looking at defence / midfield / attack as three distinct units.

    I'd be tempted to go with Defence (Offence wins games, Defence wins Championships and all that) but then I used to be a goalie so I could be biased.

    What do you all think?


    J.
    It's a bit of a rock, scissors, paper thing but...

    I'd have a world class midfield, my thinking is a good DM can help out an average defence, and a world class AM can really add to the attack.
    Plus if you can't work the ball through the midfield it may never reach your world class attack!


  • #4864
    Agueroooo
    Site Banned Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭Agueroooo


    I do expect Madrid to come a knocking after the party is over.

    Benzema stands out as the weak link in that side and I reckon he is toast.

    I think we will be talking about £100million more so than Suarez in the very near future.


  • #4865
    SuperTortoise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    I'm not as knoledgeable as some of you guys but just thinking there seems to be a serious lack of quality strikers around europe.
    If you had up to 50m to spend on a striker who would you get?


  • #4866
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    SuperTortoise wrote: »
    I'm not as knoledgeable as some of you guys but just thinking there seems to be a serious lack of quality strikers around europe.
    If you had up to 50m to spend on a striker who would you get?



    suarez


    don't put yourself down you're way more knowledgeable than most of us
    I'm impressed I used your and you're correctly


    wait I didn't use your


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  • #4867
    5live
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭5live


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    suarez


    don't put yourself down you're way more knowledgeable than most of us
    I'm impressed I used your and you're correctly


    wait I didn't use your
    You didn't use his what?




    :pac:


  • #4868
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,217 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    He wants to stay I have no doubt about that but 100m bid is impossible for the club and player to turn down. Benzema isn't good enough and being real they will look to replace him with the best out there. No better striker than suarez.


  • #4869
    Fescue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Fescue


    SuperTortoise wrote: »
    I'm not as knoledgeable as some of you guys but just thinking there seems to be a serious lack of quality strikers around europe.
    If you had up to 50m to spend on a striker who would you get?

    I think you're (your?...) right. Not a wealth of top strikers out there at the moment. Luckily Liverpool have two of the very best.


  • #4870
    SuperTortoise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Well that's my point, if Real come in with 100m how will the owners look at it?

    Will they say 'That's a great profit, we'll use it to strengthen the team'

    or
    Will they say 'Suarez cannot be replaced, therefore we are not selling'

    Their line last summer was the latter but i think if they are bid 100m they might not be able to turn that down.


  • #4871
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    100 million would be easy to turn down if Suarez is willing to stay - Liverpool would get 50 million a year for every decent tilt at the Champions League, that in turn boosts the sponsorship and TV, fills the expanding Anfield, attracts a better class of transfer.

    Suarez would still fetch a very good price (if fit and healthy) as a 30 year old - perfect PSG fodder.


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  • #4872
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    100m would not be turned down.

    Also, 100m would not be bid for a start.

    It'd more like 60 - 70m I'd imagine.

    I think we might see him here for another season as he seems happy but who knows.


  • #4873
    Fescue
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Fescue


    SuperTortoise wrote: »
    Well that's my point, if Real come in with 100m how will the owners look at it?

    Will they say 'That's a great profit, we'll use it to strengthen the team'

    or
    Will they say 'Suarez cannot be replaced, therefore we are not selling'

    Their line last summer was the latter but i think if they are bid 100m they might not be able to turn that down.

    I think the owners and transfer committee would asses the bid in terms of what is best for the club. Would that money used wisely improve the team?

    It would difficult to argue that it would. Such is the contribution of Suarez.


  • #4874
    klose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭klose


    I though suarez only scored against smaller teams and not against big teams, why would madrid want him.....


  • #4875
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    klose wrote: »
    I though suarez only scored against smaller teams and not against big teams, why would madrid want him.....

    Because they have a history of signing players of such ilk - Ronaldo...Bale..


  • #4876
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    klose wrote: »
    I though suarez only scored against smaller teams and not against big teams, why would madrid want him.....
    since joining 3 years ago he has scored against
    Man City - 1
    Arsenal - 2
    Chelsea - 2
    Man Utd - 2
    Spurs - 4
    Everton - 5

    so thats not true.


  • #4877
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,217 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    100m would not be turned down.

    Also, 100m would not be bid for a start.

    It'd more like 60 - 70m I'd imagine.

    I think we might see him here for another season as he seems happy but who knows.

    Sorry but 60 million for suarez is joke money when you see what bale went for and the transfers fees PSG are paying. 100m is the min he should be sold for.
    These teams have set the marker when are player in the top 3 in the world is available they should be prepared to pay the market rate.

    Suarez is 27 just entering his peak and is an amazing athlete. He is worth every penny of 100m.


  • #4878
    klose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,303 ✭✭✭✭klose


    MD1990 wrote: »
    since joining 3 years ago he has scored against
    Man City - 1
    Arsenal - 2
    Chelsea - 2
    Man Utd - 2
    Spurs - 4
    Everton - 5

    so thats not true.

    I was joking, just a small dig at greatest ever seasons thread were some people used that logic to belittle suarezs season


  • #4879
    [Deleted User]
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    rob316 wrote: »
    Sorry but 60 million for suarez is joke money when you see what bale went for and the transfers fees PSG are paying. 100m is the min he should be sold for.
    These teams have set the marker when are player in the top 3 in the world is available they should be prepared to pay the market rate.

    Suarez is 27 just entering his peak and is an amazing athlete. He is worth every penny of 100m.

    I wouldn't like him to see him sold at all. I'm just saying there's not a hope in hell he'll be sold for 100m. No club will pay that. Well perhaps PSG after what they paid for Luiz !


  • #4880
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    MD1990 wrote: »
    since joining 3 years ago he has scored against
    Man City - 1
    Arsenal - 2
    Chelsea - 2
    Man Utd - 2
    Spurs - 4
    Everton - 5

    so thats not true.

    In how many games


  • #4881
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    In how many games

    A maximum of 6 obviously.


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  • #4882
    billy2012
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    Vinz Mesrine wrote: »
    A maximum of 6 obviously.

    What about games outside the Premiership....obviously:P


  • #4883
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    billy2012 wrote: »
    What about games outside the Premiership....obviously:P

    Sorry I forgot goals in cup competitions don't count.


  • #4884
    MD1990
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    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    In how many games
    don't know maybe 35-40 games. Generally he has played very well against the big teams.Like against Man Utd in 10/11 he disn't score but he was incredible in that game.Recently ppl have become too obsessed with Goals & Assists rather than a players overall performance.


  • #4885
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    MD1990 wrote: »
    don't know. Generally he has played very well against the big teams.Like against Man Utd in 10/11 he disn't score but he was incredible in that game.Recently ppl have become too obsessed with Goals & Assists rather than a players overall performance.

    Did he get all 3 assists that day?


  • #4886
    Kess73
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    klose wrote: »
    I was joking, just a small dig at greatest ever seasons thread were some people used that logic to belittle suarezs season


    I know you were joking, but the same sort of "logic" gets trotted out against pretty much the star player of any team when rival supporters want to have a pop.


    Ronaldo has often had the "does not score in big games or against big teams" tag levelled against him many times.

    Players like Robben used to get called flat track bullies when a great season was had.

    Bale is a kick and run merchant who will get found out against top clubs.

    The list goes on and on.


    Basically I see it as rival supporters acknowledging just how damn good a player is, but trying to belittle the player rather than giving him credit.


  • #4887
    Rayne Wooney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    MD1990 wrote: »
    don't know maybe 35-40 games. Generally he has played very well against the big teams.Like against Man Utd in 10/11 he disn't score but he was incredible in that game.Recently ppl have become too obsessed with Goals & Assists rather than a players overall performance.

    The line is "he doesn't score against the big teams" though not "he doesn't play well".

    That doesn't seem like a great ratio, and I think Ageuro's is far better against the big teams


  • #4888
    [Deleted User]
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    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    The line is "he doesn't score against the big teams" though not "he doesn't play well".

    That doesn't seem like a great ratio, and I think Ageuro's is far better against the big teams

    It really has to be noted that Aguero has played alongside Yaya Toure, David Silva etc. for these games.

    Suarez spent a fair chunk alongside Andy Carroll, Stewart Downing etc


  • #4889
    Pilsbury Doughboy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Pilsbury Doughboy


    Who gives a fack about goal ratios and what constitutes a big team etc etc, such a boring topic, Suarez is immense and that's the bottom line.


  • #4890
    Vinz Mesrine
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Vinz Mesrine


    Rayne Wooney wrote: »
    The line is "he doesn't score against the big teams" though not "he doesn't play well".

    That doesn't seem like a great ratio, and I think Ageuro's is far better against the big teams

    He should definitely give back his PFA award then. What do the players know who voted for him? Especially Samir Nasri who voted for Suarez ahead of Aguero.


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  • #4891
    [Deleted User]
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    Pilsbury Doughboy wrote: »
    Who gives a fack about goal ratios and what constitutes a big team etc etc, such a boring topic, Suarez is immense and that's the bottom line.

    Yeah when someone trots out the he doesn't do it against the big teams line you can generally chalk their opinion as pretty worthless on the matter.


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