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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    Haven't made chicken live pate in a while and decided to pick up some livers this morning. Got 1/2lb for 1 euro. Only needed to use half of that so freezing the other half. So for a large ramekin of yummy pate it's.....50c!!! Ok there's a generous amount of butter too, but the whole thing is well under a euro. Had a sneaky taste and it's divine. Gonna be a nice starter tonight!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭dipdip


    Loire wrote: »
    Haven't made chicken live pate in a while and decided to pick up some livers this morning. Got 1/2lb for 1 euro. Only needed to use half of that so freezing the other half. So for a large ramekin of yummy pate it's.....50c!!! Ok there's a generous amount of butter too, but the whole thing is well under a euro. Had a sneaky taste and it's divine. Gonna be a nice starter tonight!

    Your recipe please my good man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,679 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    I wish supermarkets would all use vac packs for all their meat - like the Aldi premium steaks. I hate the big plastic packs they use for most of their meat. Too much packaging and the meat doesn't keep well.
    But I only occasionally buy meat from the supermarket.

    It is all down to costs and appearance of a meat on shelves.

    They pump extra oxigen into the packs so they keep a nice colour for longer. Nothing wrong with that but after I tried those vacuum packed Angus Steaks , I don't think I can eat those regular ones any more. They are a bit pricey, so not for everyday cooking:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Jezek


    wonski wrote: »
    It is all down to costs and appearance of a meat on shelves.

    They pump extra oxigen into the packs so they keep a nice colour for longer. Nothing wrong with that but after I tried those vacuum packed Angus Steaks , I don't think I can eat those regular ones any more. They are a bit pricey, so not for everyday

    surely not extra oxygen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    dipdip wrote: »
    Your recipe please my good man.

    But of course!

    1 ramekin's worth

    1/4 pound of chicken liver, fried very gently in butter until cooked through (a high heat will result in "hard" liver meat which you don't want). Add to a food processor.

    Edit: Add 1.5 times the weight again of softened butter to the food processor. (I cut the butter into thin slices and put on a plate to soften whilst the liver is cooking).

    Fry 2 chopped mushrooms and 2 cloves of sliced garlic in butter and add to the food processor.

    Blitz the whole lot - it should be nice & soft.

    Pour into the ramekin and the most important bit - add a layer of melted butter on top.

    Put a Bay leaf on top of the melted butter and then pop into the fridge for a few hours to set.

    Take it our and hour before serving, get some good bread and away you go!

    Loire.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭dipdip


    Sounds beautiful Loire, thank you. :) Nice with a bit of apple chutney and some crusty bread I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    dipdip wrote: »
    Sounds beautiful Loire, thank you. :) Nice with a bit of apple chutney and some crusty bread I reckon.

    Never tried it with apple chutney but I'd say it would be good alright.

    Have meself a giant loaf of crusty Rye bread from the bakery to go with it tonight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    But...I bought a reduced chicken :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Jezek wrote: »
    surely not extra oxygen

    It's not oxygen they use, it's nitrogen. Oxygen would make the meat go bad much quicker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭dipdip


    Loire wrote: »
    Never tried it with apple chutney but I'd say it would be good alright.

    Have meself a giant loaf of crusty Rye bread from the bakery to go with it tonight!

    photies please


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,038 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    wonski wrote: »
    It is all down to costs and appearance of a meat on shelves.
    :

    I see no reason why the vac packs would cost more than the big pumped packs.

    Lidl do cheaper cuts in these packs now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    rubadub is right when he says not all butcher's are the same.

    As much as I've been advocating them here, I'll be honest and tell you that I purchased chicken wings from a butcher on Thursday afternoon and put them in the fridge.

    Took them out this morning and they were gone off.
    Brought them back to the butcher thinking he might tell me two days was enough for chicken to go off but no, he was apologetic and said they shouldn't have gone off that quick and gave me some more for free.

    It is the first time it's happened at the butcher's so rubadub's right, they're not all infallible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I came across 2kg crates of cherries in Supervalu yesterday and couldn't resist. Then I realised we'd never eat them all so I made a cherry pie. Haven't tasted it yet, it's cooling - but it smells good.

    Mega drool!!!! DB, that looks fantastic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,679 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Jezek wrote: »
    surely not extra oxygen
    BaZmO* wrote: »
    It's not oxygen they use, it's nitrogen. Oxygen would make the meat go bad much quicker.

    Oxygen for a red meat, pretty sure about this. 70-80% iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Jezek


    wonski wrote: »
    Oxygen for a red meat, pretty sure about this. 70-80% iirc.

    Sure it's not, I remember this from my Home Ec Leaving Cert days, and also it makes common sense not to oxidise the meat. Fat goes rancid in oxygen, meat gets discoloured, and aerobic bacteria take over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    Oxidisation of myoglobin to form oxymyoglobin is what is sought in Modified Atmosphere Packaging. Oxymyoglobin is bright red. Oxygen levels need to be up to 80%. Aerobic bacterial growth is inhibited in carbon dioxide. So the balance of gas used in MAP is CO2.

    Source http://www.modifiedatmospherepackaging.com/applications/modified-atmosphere-packaging-fresh-meat.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Hmmm, I'm making fallafel and homemade flatbreads.

    Nom, nom. :)

    I also figured out an easy way to make falafels without a lot of cleanup. Throw the chickpeas into a plastic bag and crush them, and mix the ingredients, in that. At the end you just throw away the plastic bag :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,679 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    I see no reason why the vac packs would cost more than the big pumped packs.

    Lidl do cheaper cuts in these packs now.

    There has to be a reason most of the meat on shelves is in map packs rather than vacuum packs. I believe the price is one of the reasons, and the overall appearance of the meat is just better. The presentation counts.

    The shelf life on vacuum packs is much longer, too (3-4 weeks) so there is no other advantage than cost and presentation really.

    Tasty Angus Rib Eye steaks reduced to 10 euro in Aldi btw, not a bargain of the year, but well priced. Pork Mince for meatballs 2 euro/500g which is a bargain. Just to bring the chat back to food rather than boring technical stuff;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Jezek


    Minder wrote: »
    Oxidisation of myoglobin to form oxymyoglobin is what is sought in Modified Atmosphere Packaging. Oxymyoglobin is bright red. Oxygen levels need to be up to 80%. Aerobic bacterial growth is inhibited in carbon dioxide. So the balance of gas used in MAP is CO2.

    Source [url][/url]

    I had no idea, I guess I was wrong!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    dipdip wrote: »
    photies please

    Sorry - it was gone in a flash!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Okay bit of a broad spectrum here.

    But looking at cooking something different today never cooked pork steaks so was thinking stuffed pork steak but can't find any good recipes and don't want to buy one already stuffed.

    Anyone know any good recipes? Or even a nice recipe for another random cut of meat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    On my search for ideas which drew a blank so I'm going the butchers to see what tickles my fancy.


    But did decide to do either pulled pork or brisket tomorrow for dinner using this sauce http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70100589&postcount=30

    I've done the ribs using this and it has been delicious so I reckon on dlow cooked pork or beef could be nice :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Jezek


    On my search for ideas which drew a blank so I'm going the butchers to see what tickles my fancy.


    But did decide to do either pulled pork or brisket tomorrow for dinner using this sauce [URL][/URL]

    I've done the ribs using this and it has been delicious so I reckon on dlow cooked pork or beef could be nice :).

    I sometimes do a stuffed pork loin - I butterfly it and pound it till it's thin enough, add stuffing -maybe a spinach based one, or one with apple and sausage, and tie it up . in the oven it goes then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Okay bit of a broad spectrum here.

    But looking at cooking something different today never cooked pork steaks so was thinking stuffed pork steak but can't find any good recipes and don't want to buy one already stuffed.

    Anyone know any good recipes? Or even a nice recipe for another random cut of meat?

    Made this during the week. It was delicious, so tender.
    http://www.inspiredtaste.net/21117/perfect-roasted-pork-tenderloin-recipe-with-apples/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly




    That looks good but just a tad to late just back from shopping might try that during the week :).

    Decided to try something a little bit different going to stuff it with mozzarella, chives, chilli and chorizo then wrap it in puff pastry, and herself is making cheesecake for desert.

    Bit of a cheat meal brewing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    I fry some finely chopped onion and leave to cool. I add to a bowl with chopped sage (from the garden) and mix together with my hands. I cut a pocket the length of the pork, stuff in the mixture and use a few cocktail sticks to hold together. Into the oven then for about 20 mins - my oven is on its last legs though so in a decent oven it's probably less time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,222 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Don't you just love how a slow cooker ends up leaving the whole house wafting of delicious food, I'm nearly drooling here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭emaleth


    Loire wrote: »
    I fry some finely chopped onion and leave to cool. I add to a bowl with chopped sage (from the garden) and mix together with my hands. I cut a pocket the length of the pork, stuff in the mixture and use a few cocktail sticks to hold together. Into the oven then for about 20 mins - my oven is on its last legs though so in a decent oven it's probably less time!

    I do this too, it's delicious - though I don't do the pocket cutting thing, I cut the fillet in half lengthways and pound each piece out a bit wider, then tie the whole shooting match back together with twine before roasting.

    Another really nice thing to stuff pork with is black pudding. Pork stuffed pork, if you will :D Apple sauce to go with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Jezek


    emaleth wrote: »
    I do this too, it's delicious - though I don't do the pocket cutting thing, I cut the fillet in half lengthways and pound each piece out a bit wider, then tie the whole shooting match back together with twine before roasting.

    Another really nice thing to stuff pork with is black pudding. Pork stuffed pork, if you will :D Apple sauce to go with.

    try a nice apple-sausage next time, pork on pork is lovely. Wrap the whole thing in bacon for the triple-threat


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Loire


    Don't you just love how a slow cooker ends up leaving the whole house wafting of delicious food, I'm nearly drooling here.

    It's fab isn't it! Put the bread maker on too and you'll be in a trance!


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