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Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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  • #1112
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    neamhspleachi wrote: »
    I live in what is known as a hotspot estate for anti-social activity etc., a problem area if you will

    What seriously peeved me off with this election is that not one single candidate from any party except Sinn Féin canvassed door to door in our estate & yet Thursday morning my hall floor was littered with candidates election pamphlets that had been pushed through the letterbox

    Selective canvassing, it's no wonder Sinn Féin did so well in our constituency


    same in mine.few flyers handed in cynically through the letterbox the days before and they think that's good enough.they don't have a lot of respect for us it seems


  • #1113
    OldRio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,601 ✭✭✭OldRio


    upyores wrote: »
    Looks like Matt Carthy could be in real trouble, fighting for the last seat.
    He is on about 13% on the tallies and well below opinion polls of last week, might have been a mistake to McMahon canvassing for him.

    Ming's yer man


  • #1114
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Lol.

    Welcome to the party paddy-late.

    Fancy answering the question I asked you about the Mountbatten kids?


  • #1115
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Fancy answering the question I asked you about the Mountbatten kids?

    What question?


  • #1116
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,069 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    OldRio wrote: »
    Ming's yer man
    Met the lad a few times many years ago. Seemed an OK bloke but never for the life of me did I see this happening for him.


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  • #1117
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,069 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Banjo String wrote: »
    What question?
    This is about the 100th time I've heard the anti-SF campaigners ask this and we never seem to find out exactly what the question was.


  • #1118
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    This is about the 100th time I've heard the anti-SF campaigners ask this and we never seem to find out exactly what the question was.

    funny , all gone quiet with the shout at the traffic brigade about the point that SF had it as PARTY POLICY not to report child sexual abuse until 1997.

    but , no surprise they are keeping quiet about that doozie , no debating that little gem really - so , who's going to be brave/stupid enough to try justify SF stance on this subject , and dont bother with the "cant talk to the RUC " ****E

    they were quick enough to shoot , cripple and deport car thieves and drug dealers during the troubles , but funny pedos did not get the same attention

    puzzling - but sure next time the SF people will been seen on the streets will be for the gen election , i'll ask them then , see what their opinion is ;)


  • #1119
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,069 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    funny , all gone quiet with the shout at the traffic brigade about the point that SF had it as PARTY POLICY not to report child sexual abuse
    For some unknown and unfathomable reason you have decided not to include your no doubt extensive evidence to back this claim up in this post.
    It'll be in the next one no doubt.


  • #1120
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    For some unknown and unfathomable reason you have decided not to include your no doubt extensive evidence to back this claim up in this post.
    It'll be in the next one no doubt.

    I'm looking forward to reading the sources on this new round of Duffyesque hysteria too.

    'Who will think of the RA childer?' :D


  • #1121
    Tramps Like Us
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    For some unknown and unfathomable reason you have decided not to include your no doubt extensive evidence to back this claim up in this post.
    It'll be in the next one no doubt.

    Republicans had a policy, for good reason, not to deal with the RUC at all.

    Worth noting that when Adams niece and her mother reported Liam Adams for child sex abuse they didnt care and just wanted info on Gerry Adams. They didnt even enter it on their records and Liam Adams was able to get RUC/PSNI clearance (whatever garda vetting is called up there)

    The poster is being disingenuous.


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  • #1122
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Well I note the word internal now, a qualification along with some other qualifications that you didn't gave in the post I responded to.

    I can't imagine why you think your qualification is important - is it only bad when you brutalise foreign citizens, but it doesn't count when brutalise your own citizens? :confused:

    Oh dear, my bad, it looks like I wasn't making myself clear enough for you. Another poster compared Prince Charles to President Higgins since they both hold a symbolical military role. Now my post pointed out, that you cannot compare both roles/armies. Especially since the British Army is synonymous with empire, invasion, occupation, oppression and brutality. Thankfully, President Higgins represents an army that is not associated with any of those stains. Prince Charles however, as head of the Paras, represents a unit that not only has a deplorable reputation in Ireland, but in former British colonies across the globe. So to compare both figureheads is nonsensical.

    But then you bring the Irish civil war into it and I had to emphasis to you, that was an internal conflict and my post only pertained to the standing and reputation of the Irish & British Army. Again note the word only there. And now you're asking a question about whether it's acceptable to brutalise your own citizens. So tell me, who suggested that it was acceptable? Because I certainly didn't.

    But since you seem fixated by the civil war. I had a great uncle executed by the pro-treaty forces during the civil war. And my grandfather served as an officer with these very same pro-treaty forces. I had uncles who didn't attend the funeral of their brother, nearly 60 years after the civil war ended. The civil war deeply affected my family, especially the older members of it. And this is not unique to my own family. But getting back onto the original topic. Any attempt to smear the Irish Army and equate it with the reputation of the British Army, is way beyond ridiculous imo.


  • #1123
    OldRio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,601 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Met the lad a few times many years ago. Seemed an OK bloke but never for the life of me did I see this happening for him.

    Yeah. Nice guy. He got our vote.
    You're right though. Perhaps he was in the right place at the right time.


  • #1124
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    On the river wrote:

    My opinion is the said canvasser should not be out canvassing let alone out
    of jail.

    It disrespectful to all those that died and their families.


    Secondly sinn fein should not be supporting this if it wants the irish
    electorate to take them seriously.

    People forgive but they never
    forget. Sinn fein is shooting themselves in the foot more and more .
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90522803&postcount=1012
    bumper234 wrote:
    I don't think it's as much as him being "allowed" as is it morally right? Either
    way i think SF have shot themselves (pun intended) in the foot with this one

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90510371&postcount=555
    rozboosje wrote:

    With his comments about SF possibly reconsidering their support for policing
    and even the peace process, Marty took a double barrel shotgun, carefully
    pointed it at his right foot and pulled the trigger. The one-legged backhopping
    that ensued a day later was hilarious to behold. But the damage was done.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90498781&postcount=104

    ......hmmmmm.....


  • #1125
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    And people wonder why I refuse point blank to vote Sinn Feinn.


  • #1126
    SaveOurLyric
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    And people wonder why I refuse point blank to vote Sinn Feinn.

    They probably wonder because you dont give any explanation.


  • #1127
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    SaveOurLyric wrote: »
    They probably wonder because you dont give any explanation.

    Ah but I do. I tell them it's because of their past, because they are really just the political wing of the IRA and because I wouldn't want to be governed by people who think it's ok to employ terrorists and child killers.


  • #1128
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    For some unknown and unfathomable reason you have decided not to include your no doubt extensive evidence to back this claim up in this post.
    It'll be in the next one no doubt.


    tell ya what Dan , i KNOW this to be party policy , for a fact

    but if you want clarification , type it into a search engine and you will get the same web pages i get , then you dont have to be a condescending smart arse style poster ????


    not so unfathomable now is it ? not everything has to be spoon feed to ya


  • #1129
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Tramps Like Us wrote: »
    Republicans had a policy, for good reason, not to deal with the RUC at all.

    Worth noting that when Adams niece and her mother reported Liam Adams for child sex abuse they didnt care and just wanted info on Gerry Adams. They didnt even enter it on their records and Liam Adams was able to get RUC/PSNI clearance (whatever garda vetting is called up there)

    The poster is being disingenuous.

    do you mean me ?

    disingenuous ? 1997 they were in full talks with the British goverment , they were receiving British government aid , their children were attending schools funded by the British , as for using hospitals and doctors , you guessed it , funded by the British crown

    so they could avail of all these things from the dirty crown , but could not see their way to report child abuse to the same British government ????

    as posters have mentioned , the mother and child were stone walled by the RUC when they did report it , yet Adams never did , if he had , he could have given gravitas to the report of abuse - but our man Gerry didn't - for political reasons.

    So numptys on this thread are asking me for proof of SF policy that is widely available on line , yet the proof that Adams EVER reported ANYTHING to anyone is zero , does someone want to prove me wrong on this ?
    and to save ya all some time , the priest whom he alleges he told , never reported it to anyone either, there is no record , and luckily for Adams story , the guy is now dead.

    handy that


  • #1130
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    tell ya what Dan , i KNOW this to be party policy , for a fact

    but if you want clarification , type it into a search engine and you will get the same web pages i get , then you dont have to be a condescending smart arse style poster ????


    not so unfathomable now is it ? not everything has to be spoon feed to ya


    You made the claim ,its for you to back it up.


  • #1131
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Nodin wrote: »
    You made the claim ,its for you to back it up.

    not really - you have google , use it

    but , a little snip it from matt cooper

    "Liam Adams apparently told Gerry in 2000 that one aspect of the allegation was true. That was the time that the Sinn Féin leader, in the peace process era, should have reported his brother.

    He didn’t. Instead when Liam subsequently moved back to Belfast why did Gerry let him live with him and help get a job in a youth club associated with Clonard monastery? And why did Gerry allow Liam to reinvolve himself with Sinn Féin in west Belfast in 2000 if that was the year that Liam made his limited confession of sexual abuse, short of rape, to Gerry?

    This was also the same year Sinn Féin introduced guidelines to deal with allegations of sexual and child abuse but Adams did not inform his own party of the most serious allegations against his brother until they were made public in 2007.

    To have assumed that Liam was not a potential danger to other children was another frightening misjudgment, one that Gerry was not qualified to make."


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  • #1132
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    not really - you have google , use it

    .............

    Not the way it works.


  • #1133
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Nodin wrote: »
    Not the way it works.

    yea it is , i just did , and sure to feed the dog a little i give you this

    "As Gerry Moriarty reported in the Irish Times even in the mid 90s, Adams was unequivocal in denying his niece, or any one else, the option of going to the police:

    …in January 1995 he said people should not report alleged cases of child or drug abuse to the RUC. This was during the first IRA ceasefire, when Sinn Féin still refused to accept the legitimacy of the RUC."

    it was party POLICY not to report child sexual abuse up untill 1997

    again , ill let that last sentence sink in

    He could have reported it to a myriad of other people or organizations over a 20 year period , but chose not to.

    i dont give a **** what party policy was or is , not reporting sexual abuse against any child , let alone you own f2ucking niece makes you a scum bag , complicit in your brothers crimes.


  • #1134
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    yea it is , i just did , and sure to feed the dog a little i give you this

    ".........

    A link to the policy is required.


  • #1135
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Nodin wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90522803&postcount=1012



    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90510371&postcount=555



    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=90498781&postcount=104

    ......hmmmmm.....

    Crash test dummy?


  • #1136
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Crash test dummy?


    O no. I was just wondering how many made the oul 'shot themselves in the foot' remark. Looks like they didn't, funny enough.


  • #1137
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Nodin wrote: »
    A link to the policy is required.

    get searching so , i have posted all im going to , its common knowledge they only had a policy after 1997, as i have posted

    so how does me posting a link to a policy make the Adams brothers any less scum bags , or SF a party with a horrendous history ?

    not getting why people are lining up to try come up with "reasons" why he could not help his own niece when she was being rapped by Adams brother ????

    fu2cking mind boggling


  • #1138
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Nodin wrote: »
    O no. I was just wondering how many made the oul 'shot themselves in the foot' remark. Looks like they didn't, funny enough.

    That's the funny thing about protest votes, to get the maximum attention of the government people tend to vote for the likes of sinn fein, socialist party, UKIP, BNP (in the case of the UK) in local elections to show the government that their hold on power is tenuous to say the least.

    Sinn fein and independents have gained a few MEP's but no real power. It's embarrassing for the government but give it a year, a few tax cuts and some high profile jobs announcments and before you know it we will be heading for a general election. A few high profile news stories reminding people of the IRA's/sinn fein's background and they will be back in the minority position.


  • #1139
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    get searching so ........

    As I said, its for you to back up what you say.


  • #1140
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    That's the funny thing about protest votes, to get the maximum attention of the government people tend to vote for the likes of sinn fein, socialist party, UKIP, BNP (in the case of the UK) in local elections to show the government that their hold on power is tenuous to say the least.

    Sinn fein and independents have gained a few MEP's but no real power. It's embarrassing for the government but give it a year, a few tax cuts and some high profile jobs announcments and before you know it we will be heading for a general election. A few high profile news stories reminding people of the IRA's/sinn fein's background and they will be back in the minority position.


    ..but you weren't talking about a year on, or what might happen if such and such occurred, you were talking about this election, and you got it entirely wrong. You should draw the obvious lesson, learn from it, and move on.


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  • #1141
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Nodin wrote: »
    As I said, its for you to back up what you say.

    yea , nodin , you keep saying that , if it saves face for ya

    on a another note , for the others who claim i am the only one that thinks that he could have and should have reported sooner , think again

    If he was a "mere mortal" - he would have been banged up for failure to report among other charges , and proper order

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/the-week-sinn-fein-president-gerry-adams-credibility-was-left-in-tatters-29636643.html

    and this was published pre the arrest last month , the same guy who was asked to step down from the bobby sands trust , due to his inaction about his brother, but sure , im making all this up , according to some !!

    great glorious leader :rolleyes:


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