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Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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  • #1052
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    They have built a solid base of hard working [...] no nonsense local candidates...

    While that is true, what I said is also accurate.


  • #1053
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Alias G wrote: »
    I have no issue with people talking about the shinners past. In fact their past is the biggest obstacle to me voting for them. I do however take issue with the indo agenda 20 years after the peace process amongst their other irresponsible journalism.

    but i am not getting my opinion from the indo , its my view , un polluted by that ****e , i have no idea why you would think that ?

    but on the obstacle of voting for them , their past , i could not agree more,
    as i have said , i will consider them for my vote , only when not one of them has had a hand in the past.


  • #1054
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    While that is true, what I said is also accurate.

    It really isn't. They get the job done...that is paying off.


  • #1055
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    It really isn't. They get the job done...that is paying off.
    They are ultra-nationalist
    They are isolationist
    They are anti-establishment
    They are certainly anti-EU
    and it's hard to not say that they pick up protest votes


  • #1056
    Alias G
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭Alias G


    dj jarvis wrote: »
    but i am not getting my opinion from the indo , its my view , un polluted by that ****e , i have no idea why you would think that ?

    but on the obstacle of voting for them , their past , i could not agree more,
    as i have said , i will consider them for my vote , only when not one of them has had a hand in the past.

    Look at my original post you quoted. All I mentioned was the indo so what are you quoting me for. I never suggested shutting down discussion. But the indo is an unethical rag and this story was timed intentionally IMO.


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  • #1057
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They are ultra-nationalist
    No in any real sense. They're a non-racist, non-sectarian party.
    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They are isolationist


    ....based on....? A policy or two would be nice.
    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They are anti-establishment

    No bad thing.
    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They are certainly anti-EU
    and it's hard to not say that they pick up protest votes

    They are anti-EU, well done. A large range of parties pick up "protest votes".


  • #1058
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Alias G wrote: »
    Look at my original post you quoted. All I mentioned was the indo so what are you quoting me for. I never suggested shutting down discussion. But the indo is an unethical rag and this story was timed intentionally IMO.

    agreed ,

    im just pointing out i never mentioned the Indo or any other paper by name.


  • #1059
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They are ultra-nationalist -What does that even mean?
    They are isolationist - You will have to show example of that.
    They are anti-establishment - Anti-the cosy establishment of FF/FG..yes
    They are certainly anti-EU - EU critical is not a bad thing in my book
    and it's hard to not say that they pick up protest votes - picking up votes from people who want and are demanding change, no bad thing either, in my book

    ...


  • #1060
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Nodin wrote: »
    No in any real sense. They're a non-racist, non-sectarian party.

    Nationalism is probably the single most important aspect of Sinn Fein. All of their objectives, their symbolism, their pseudo history, language, etc. While they are relatively friendly to minorities, they are born of sectarianism and still have somewhat embittered relations with their opposition within that particular conflict.
    Nodin wrote: »
    ....based on....? A policy or two would be nice.

    With the exception of NI, of course.

    I have yet to see them have friendly relations with any foreign government, at least genuinely.
    Nodin wrote: »
    No bad thing.

    Well, both as opposition, and in the manner in which they are far-left.
    Nodin wrote: »
    They are anti-EU, well done. A large range of parties pick up "protest votes".

    True.


  • #1061
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    ...
    I didn't say it was all "bad"... just picking out the similarities.


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  • #1062
    Mint Aero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Reading page 1 of this thread is enough to lower anyones IQ. You people seriously need to get a grip.


  • #1063
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Nationalism is probably the single most important aspect of Sinn Fein. All of their objectives, their symbolism, their pseudo history, language, etc. While they are relatively friendly to minorities, they are born of sectarianism..


    They were born of sectarianism aimed at their community. They are a non-racist non sectarian party.
    I have yet to see them have friendly relations with any foreign government, at
    least genuinely.

    ...whatever that's meant to mean.
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/gerry-adams-applauded-as-he-joins-anc-guard-of-honour-at-mandela-funeral-235925801-237792221.html

    Where are these "isolationist" policies?


  • #1064
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Reading page 1 of this thread is enough to lower anyones IQ. You people seriously need to get a grip.

    To quote a post of yours
    Oh well thanks for your contribution. Kindly appreciated.

    :rolleyes:


  • #1065
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    They are ultra-nationalist
    They are isolationist
    They are anti-establishment
    They are certainly anti-EU
    and it's hard to not say that they pick up protest votes

    Has the thread moved on to discussing the UKIP party in England?

    Sin Fein language is the language of conflict, bitter intimidation and terror, they are no different to thousands of "Squaddies" who did several tours in Northern Ireland during the worst of the troubles.

    During the "conflict" years we all know how the IRA/sinn fein raised funds with fear and intimidation and forcing many of the poorest people in the country at the time to contribute or risk a bullet through the knees or other punishment beating.

    Nowadays things are very different, We will all put our pennies and cents into a big 32 county shinner melting pot and the country's debts will be paid just as soon as the bond holders are burned at the stake. Then the bread and milk will be bought handed out to those in need and we will al be grateful to our shinner comrades Overlords.


  • #1066
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Has the thread moved (........) Overlords.

    Dear o dear.


  • #1067
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Has the thread moved on to discussing the UKIP party in England?

    Sin Fein language is the language of conflict, bitter intimidation and terror, they are no different to thousands of "Squaddies" who did several tours in Northern Ireland during the worst of the troubles.

    During the "conflict" years we all know how the IRA/sinn fein raised funds with fear and intimidation and forcing many of the poorest people in the country at the time to contribute or risk a bullet through the knees or other punishment beating.

    Nowadays things are very different, We will all put our pennies and cents into a big 32 county shinner melting pot and the country's debts will be paid just as soon as the bond holders are burned at the stake. Then the bread and milk will be bought handed out to those in need and we will al be grateful to our shinner comrades Overlords.

    Somebody didn't tell the Indo that the polls are closed, too late for the scaremongering, the die is cast.


  • #1068
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    ........................

    Sin Fein language is the language of conflict, bitter intimidation and terror, ..............

    Rather ironic, when you read through the thread.


  • #1069
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    About midday tomorrow, the country will know whether the clowns putting out the black propaganda have succeeded.
    I am looking forward to the results.


  • #1070
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    About midday tomorrow, the country will know whether the clowns putting out the black propaganda have succeeded.
    I am looking forward to the results.
    Aren't you afraid of SF becoming mainstream and accepting an influx of new members who will change the character of the party?

    I would if I were you.


  • #1071
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    About midday tomorrow, the country will know whether the clowns putting out the black propaganda have succeeded.
    I am looking forward to the results.

    The feigned surprise among RTE and Indo 'journalists' about SF gains will be a thing to behold.

    Editor: 'Get me an excuse and get it QUICK!' :)


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  • #1072
    Busted Flat.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Aren't you afraid of SF becoming mainstream and accepting an influx of new members who will change the character of the party?

    I would if I were you.

    I know it is hard to take, but SF is an open party and welcomes all.


  • #1073
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    I know it is hard to take, but SF is an open party and welcomes all.

    If it becomes mainstream the ideology will shift mainstream. The party could easily lose its character and become another FF/FG clone because they represent the majority views of the population.

    Makes no difference to me I'm no supporter of SF and never have been but hard core republicans like yourself should be worried.


  • #1074
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Busted Flat. wrote: »
    I know it is hard to take, but SF is an open party and welcomes all.

    "We'll take any auld ****e!".


  • #1075
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    stimpson wrote: »
    All the political parties have blood on their hands if you go back far enough.

    Labour? The Greens? DDI? Fis Nua?


  • #1076
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Lord Mountbattens family have their fair share of innocent children's blood on their hands also, lest we forget

    Who's blood precisely did the kids who were blown up with Mountbatten have on their hands?

    A straight answer would be appreciated...


  • #1077
    Foxhound38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Banjo String wrote: »
    The Prince of Wales was and still is the Colonel-in-Chief of the parachute regiment.

    And Michael D is apparently supreme commander of the Defence Forces...

    Ceremonial titles do not equate to positions of responsibility


  • #1078
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Banjo String wrote: »
    The Prince of Wales was and still is the Colonel-in-Chief of the parachute regiment.

    And Michael D is apparently supreme commander of the Defence Forces...

    A key difference is, President Higgins presides over an army which is respected the world over. The Irish Army, unlike their British counterparts, is not and has never been associated with invasion, occupation, brutality or oppression.


  • #1079
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    It now might be an opportune time for Nationalists to stop feeding Dennis O'Brien's behemoth. Stop buying anything in which he gets a %. Plenty of other phone companies around ...... likewise papers.
    This guy would sell his mother - if the margin was right.


  • #1080
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    A key difference is, President Higgins presides over an army which is respected the world over. The Irish Army, unlike their British counterparts, is not and has never been associated with invasion, occupation, brutality or oppression.

    Well - maybe just a bit.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executions_during_the_Irish_Civil_War


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  • #1081
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Labour ? The Greens? DDI? Fis Nua?

    Lol.

    Welcome to the party paddy-late.


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