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Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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  • #962
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    eh...they are in 'power'.

    Not in this country.


  • #963
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    This is why they will never get into power. Terrorist supporters and cowards to go with it. This murder was a disgrace.

    I miss Keithafc. Wonder where he's got to?


  • #964
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    eh...they are in 'power'.

    Have a look at his post history before wasting your time engaging with him


  • #965
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Not in this country.

    In one part of this country, yes they are. ;)


  • #966
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Not in this country.

    The poster said, 'they will never be in power'. They are. In my country too...Ireland.


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  • #967
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Have a look at his post history before wasting your time engaging with him

    But Keith is cute! :)


  • #968
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    eh...they are in 'power'.
    No they aren't. The Irish people are decent overall and will reject Sinn Fein from forming the government at the next election. Most Irish people do not like murder and blowing children apart.


  • #969
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    No they aren't. The Irish people are decent overall and will reject Sinn Fein from forming the government at the next election. Most Irish people do not like murder and blowing children apart.

    Last time I looked Irish people have put in them power. You are talking nonsense.


  • #970
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Last time I looked Irish people have put in them power. You are talking nonsense.
    Stop talking about Northern Ireland. That has nothing to do with the Irish electorate in the Republic.


  • #971
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    Stop talking about Northern Ireland. That has nothing to do with the Irish electorate in the Republic.

    Are the Irish people in NI less decent than those in the south....is that your point?


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  • #972
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    No they aren't. The Irish people are decent overall and will reject Sinn Fein from forming the government at the next election. Most Irish people do not like murder and blowing children apart.

    As opposed to those indecent people? I don't believe SF supporters are not decent people.and i fact most (all?) The ones i do know are just normal people. Just because they have different political leanings does not mean they are not decent people.


  • #973
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Are the Irish people in NI less decent than those in the south....is that your point?
    Certainly the moral fibre is less and the support for terrorism is more, as you well know. Trying to convince the electorate that murder is fine is harder to do in the Republic than in Northern Ireland.


  • #974
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    Certainly the moral fibre is less and the support for terrorism is more, as you well know. Trying to convince the electorate that murder is fine is harder to do in the Republic than in Northern Ireland.

    Now you're just making idiotic posts for the sake of reaction :rolleyes:


  • #975
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Now you're just making idiotic posts for the sake of reaction :rolleyes:
    That is what the murder of Lord Mountbatten was. The people in the Republic didn't like it then and don't like it now. Sinn Fein would move on so much more if they got rid of the aggressive Republican lunatics who believe in murder.


  • #976
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Big Nasty wrote: »
    Look at their economic policies ffs! No austerity, no water charges, no property tax, etc. Where do they propose the government get the money needed to run the country and pay back our debts?

    Also the main reason they're doing well is their badly thought out policies appeal to the red top readers as does their tiofchaidh ar la idealism.

    Thick cvnts! :mad:



    Sure FFail and FG's economic policies are legendary.

    You're somebody who believes that gamblers and speculators debts are our debts.

    Enough said.


  • #977
    fergus1001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    Lastlight

    Will you stop talking scour and try and form a decent rebuttal

    Keep on topic also


  • #978
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    That is what the murder of Lord Mountbatten was. The people in the Republic didn't like it then and don't like it now. Sinn Fein would move on so much more if they got rid of the aggressive Republican lunatics who believe in murder.

    Everyone knows what mountbatten was.
    It's well documented.
    The world is a better place without him, especially for children.

    The guy on the canvass was convicted and served his time for that crime.

    I thought the idea of a properly functioning justice system was that people were punished and rehabilitated and encouraged to live a better life after?


  • #979
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Everyone knows what mountbatten was.
    It's well documented.
    The world is a better place without him, especially for children.

    The guy on the canvass was convicted and served his time for that crime.

    I thought the idea of a properly functioning justice system was that people were punished and rehabilitated and encouraged to live a better life after?

    Was he ever convicted or just accused of these crimes? Sure the world would be a better place without Gerry Adams in that case, the man who covered up the rape of his own niece by his scumbag brother.


  • #980
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Was he ever convicted or just accused of these crimes? Sure the world would be a better place without Gerry Adams in that case, the man who covered up the rape of his own niece by his scumbag brother.

    Funnily enough, I don't think he was. Mad that isn't it, that a british 'lord' doesn't get convicted.

    Unlike Liam Adams who was.

    Google 'mountbatten' and 'paedophile' and see what you come up with.


    Why hasn't Gerry Adams been charged with covering up a paedo????


  • #981
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Funnily enough, I don't think he was. Mad that isn't it, that a british 'lord' doesn't get convicted.

    Unlike Liam Adams who was.

    Google 'mountbatten' and 'paedophile' and see what you come up with.


    Why hasn't Gerry Adams been charged with covering up a paedo????

    Google

    Aliens walk among us.
    Chemical contrails.
    Illuminatti took my baby
    Freddie Star ate my hamster

    You will find more pages on those as well does not mean any of them.are true right?


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  • #982
    Red Pepper
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    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Funnily enough, I don't think he was. Mad that isn't it, that a british 'lord' doesn't get convicted.

    Unlike Liam Adams who was.

    Google 'mountbatten' and 'paedophile' and see what you come up with.


    Why hasn't Gerry Adams been charged with covering up a paedo????

    Irony can be pretty ironic Father Ned.


  • #983
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Why hasn't Gerry Adams been charged with covering up a paedo????

    There was a journalist who said that he actually broke the rules of his own party as a result of his behaviour in this very unfortunate case.

    This is Suzanne Breen, writing in the Indo:
    Gerry is on the record as saying he didn't tell anyone else in Sinn Fein that there were allegations of paedophilia against his brother.
    This contravened the party's constitution at the time, which stated: "Where allegations of sexual harassment and sexual assault are made, they should be referred directly to an ard comhairle."
    The most powerful man in Sinn Fein treated his party's internal rules with contempt.

    Can any SF members/observers on here comment whether or not that is true? Forget the snipes at the source/paper, just interested in thoughts on whether this is factually accurate.


  • #984
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Fr. Ned wrote: »


    Why hasn't Gerry Adams been charged with covering up a paedo????

    Police are afraid of their lives to touch him for that I'd say. Seeing as how they themselves basically told the victim to get lost on the numerous occasions she reported it to them. They were more interested in hearing about Gerry, than they were about listening to the girls complaints against her father,


  • #985
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »



    Can any SF members/observers on here comment whether or not that is true? Forget the snipes at the source/paper, just interested in thoughts on whether this is factually accurate.

    Far as I know it is true.
    Yes, he was remiss about not reporting it earlier, but the fact that he did eventually and gave evidence against his brother (a difficult thing for anyone to do) redeemed him slightly in my eyes.
    I would be wary though of pronouncing judgement on anybody in a very fraught family situation the complexities of which are private. I have misjudged many family situations and actions in my time.
    The family seem to be happy with how things turned out...if 'happy' is the right word.
    Certainly a black card against him though.


  • #986
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Police are afraid of their lives to touch him for that I'd say. Seeing as how they themselves basically told the victim to get lost on the numerous occasions she reported it to them. They were more interested in hearing about Gerry, than they were about listening to the girls complaints against her father,

    Maybe the RUC should have done their jobs properly back then.

    I wonder what people on here would do if they heard that their brother, allegedly at the time, was abusing his child?

    A nationalist family living in a place where nationalists did not trust the RUC.

    A nationalist family living in a time in this country where sex, even between two consenting adults, was a taboo subject.

    It was also during this time that successive FF and FG governments looked the other way when they were told, and they were told, about the sexual abuse of kids in the church and in state institutions for fear of alienating their core vote.

    We know better now, thank God, but we didn't then.


  • #987
    Donkey Oaty
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    Thanks for your candid response, Happyman.


  • #988
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Far as I know it is true.
    Yes, he was remiss about not reporting it earlier, but the fact that he did eventually and gave evidence against his brother (a difficult thing for anyone to do) redeemed him slightly in my eyes.
    I would be wary though of pronouncing judgement on anybody in a very fraught family situation the complexities of which are private. I have misjudged many family situations and actions in my time.
    The family seem to be happy with how things turned out...if 'happy' is the right word.
    Certainly a black card against him though.

    it should not have been given a seconds thought to shop on his brother , it was rape of a child , and that is why he should never be allowed near the levers of power , his morels are screwed up , along with the things he done for the "cause"

    the guy is tainted , along with any other SF member who had ANYTHING to do with the North

    SF will not be viable as an gov party until EVERYONE who has a shady past has left the party or is dead


  • #989
    dj jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Maybe the RUC should have done their jobs properly back then.

    I wonder what people on here would do if they heard that their brother, allegedly at the time, was abusing his child?

    A nationalist family living in a place where nationalists did not trust the RUC.

    A nationalist family living in a time in this country where sex, even between two consenting adults, was a taboo subject.

    It was also during this time that successive FF and FG governments looked the other way when they were told, and they were told, about the sexual abuse of kids in the church and in state institutions for fear of alienating their core vote.

    We know better now, thank God, but we didn't then.

    bull sh1te - he could have contacted child services , the church ect ect , even down south he could have reported it and not have talked to the RUC or British government - many ways he could have helped this child but chose not to

    as for we didn't know ???? would you ever **** off - it was 25 years ago , not the 1600's , dont be an apologist for someone who covered up for a child rapist.


  • #990
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Fr. Ned wrote: »
    Maybe the RUC should have done their jobs properly back then.

    I wonder what people on here would do if they heard that their brother, allegedly at the time, was abusing his child?

    Imo, it's not even about how someone should react to such allegations about their brother. It's about how authorities completely refused to act, despite knowing about it all.

    It wasn't even just the RUC that completely failed in its role. Social services in the North were aware of the allegations while Liam Adams was employed in a role where he worked with youths on both sides of the border. They done nothing to step in or to let authorities in the South know about it.

    Somewhere along the line, a conscious decision was made to ignore it. Probably in the hope that Gerry would become implicated at some point.


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  • #991
    Fr. Ned
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    dj jarvis wrote: »
    it should not have been given a seconds thought to shop on his brother , it was rape of a child , and that is why he should never be allowed near the levers of power , his morels are screwed up , along with the things he done for the "cause"

    the guy is tainted , along with any other SF member who had ANYTHING to do with the North

    SF will not be viable as an gov party until EVERYONE who has a shady past has left the party or is dead

    So, if you were living in the 6 counties at a time when the RUC were involved in setting up the murders of your neighbours and friends (which they were) and you heard rumours about your brother abusing his daughter, would you immediately report those concerns to those same RUC men?

    What happened when this girl and her mother went to the RUC?


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