Theresa Heaney on Vincent Browne

Nodin · 23-05-2014 05:28PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Some implied she was mentally unwell as being loopy, a nutjob. Because she does not hold the views of the person saying this - that is a prejudice..

No, it's because she has views that are in stark contrast with reality. Not to mention the way she wants women back in the home but is running for Europe.

poundapunnet · 23-05-2014 05:29PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Some implied she was mentally unwell as being loopy, a nutjob. Because she does not hold the views of the person saying this - that is a prejudice.

One can disagree with someone without needing to call that person names, which also implied they had a problem with other people who could be mentally unwell, as it was used as a putdown.

That is not the reason people were saying she was mental. It's not because her views are different, it's because of what those views actually are: that there's an organised gay agenda to destroy the family, that the family is limited to straight married couples with children, that there's a conspiracy to hide the oestregen in the water supply.

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 05:30PM

Nodin wrote: »

Good man. Don't let them liberals bully you into voting on policies, relationship to reality or anything else.

The reality is some ignore issues, I haven't seen many argue against what happened in Japan with the cervical cancer vaccine, where it was made non compulsory due to health concerns.

Some here didn't bother looking upwhat she said, she had to be wrong- fullstop.
That is liberal ignorance because it doesn't suit.

miss-p · 23-05-2014 05:34PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I voted for her, given the amount of prejudice there is in this topic towards her.

Well at least you choose who to vote for without prejudice

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 05:36PM

poundapunnet wrote: »

That is not the reason people were saying she was mental. It's not because her views are different, it's because of what those views actually are: that there's an organised gay agenda to destroy the family, that the family is limited to straight married couples with children, that there's a conspiracy to hide the oestregen in the water supply.

Oh please, the media is gay obsessed, it is literally pushed down our throats, you must support gay marriage, you must support Panti, oh John Waters is a terrible man and anyone not for these new made up so called rights like SSM are homophobic.

What is loopy, is people aren't being allowed to express their views freely without someone wanting to put a label on that person.

Yes there is oestrogen pollution and yes it is never really talked about.

At least Theresa Heaney has got people talking and it is not all the stuff the PC brigade scream and shout about what we have to support.
There are plenty of people sick of the liberal media and the brainwashed people who agree with it because they feel they need to fit in.
If they said what they really felt like saying they would be put up and be bashed like Ms Heaney.

Nodin · 23-05-2014 05:38PM

RobertKK wrote: »

The reality is some ignore issues, I haven't seen many argue against what happened in Japan with the cervical cancer vaccine, where it was made non compulsory due to health concerns.

Some here didn't bother looking upwhat she said, she had to be wrong- fullstop.
That is liberal ignorance because it doesn't suit.

There's a bit more to the Japanese situation than "vaccine bad".
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13)61831-0/fulltext

There isn't much more to one sides jumping on it than the usual terror of female sexuality, however.

Oh please, the media is gay obsessed, it is literally pushed down our throats

...............as the actress said to the bishop.

, you must support gay marriage, you must support Panti, oh John Waters is a terrible man and anyone not for these new made up so called rights like SSM are homophobic.

He is a terrible man, actually. Don't see whats "so-called" about the rights though.

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What is loopy, is people aren't being allowed to express their views freely without someone wanting to put a label on that person..

Labels eh? "liberal" is a label, isn't it?

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At least Theresa Heaney has got people talking and it is not all the stuff the PC brigade scream and shout about what we have to support.
There are plenty of people sick of the liberal media and the brainwashed people who agree with it because they feel they need to fit in...

"PC brigade"...that's another label, I believe.

poundapunnet · 23-05-2014 05:38PM

RobertKK wrote: »

The reality is some ignore issues, I haven't seen many argue against what happened in Japan with the cervical cancer vaccine, where it was made non compulsory due to health concerns.

Some here didn't bother looking upwhat she said, she had to be wrong- fullstop.
That is liberal ignorance because it doesn't suit.

It's possible that the Catholic far-right will be vindicated about the vaccine. But they've pre-emptively robbed themselves of any credibility on the matter because any eejit knows that their objection to it has very little to do with the possible health concerns. It's because they take it as a tacit encouragement of casual sex when the vaccine is administered to 11 and 12 year olds to guarantee they get it before they become sexually active.

SaveOurLyric · 23-05-2014 05:41PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I don't know what type of country you want to live in but I don't want to live in one where people cannot stand for election based on their own beliefs and put a case to the public.

There should be some sort of assessment or minimum bar though to weed out the patently bats from being anywhere near power in a democracy.
There is no case to put for beliefs or policy based only on imagined fantasy.

Lastlight. · 23-05-2014 05:45PM

Fair play to her for expressing her real views and not hiding behind PC claptrap which certain Irish parties do and trying to deceive the voting public on what they really are.

jimgoose · 23-05-2014 05:48PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Oh please, the media is gay obsessed, it is literally pushed down our throats, you must support gay marriage, you must support Panti, oh John Waters is a terrible man and anyone not for these new made up so called rights like SSM are homophobic.

What is loopy, is people aren't being allowed to express their views freely without someone wanting to put a label on that person.

Yes there is oestrogen pollution and yes it is never really talked about.

At least Theresa Heaney has got people talking and it is not all the stuff the PC brigade scream and shout about what we have to support.
There are plenty of people sick of the liberal media and the brainwashed people who agree with it because they feel they need to fit in.
If they said what they really felt like saying they would be put up and be bashed like Ms Heaney.

The woman is a complete window-licking head-case of the most dangerous sort - I know the type - and I would vote for the cat before her. In fact, I did. That is the view of this hand-wringing liberal, and I just expressed it.

poundapunnet · 23-05-2014 05:48PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Oh please, the media is gay obsessed, it is literally pushed down our throats, you must support gay marriage, you must support Panti, oh John Waters is a terrible man and anyone not for these new made up so called rights like SSM are homophobic.

Right-wing Catholics are gay obsessed. Cannot shut up about them.

Also, for heaven's sake: "people aren't being allowed to express their views freely without someone wanting to put a label on that person....PC brigade... brainwashed". So the only reason people disagree with her is that they're brainwashed liberal idiots? You're not extending the same courtesy to people whose views contradict your own that you're demanding for Theresa, are you?

She is absolutely free to express her views and was given a platform on national TV to do so, that does not mean she has freedom from being criticised for them.

endacl · 23-05-2014 05:49PM

Lastlight. wrote: »

Fair play to her for expressing her real views and not hiding behind PC claptrap which certain Irish parties do and trying to deceive the voting public on what they really are.

Absolutely. 100%. And I'm sure you also endorse those who call her out on her views, and back up their point of view with facts?

You do? Of course you do!

Nice one. Fair play. That's democracy in action.

evolving_doors · 23-05-2014 05:49PM

Muise... wrote: »

It like a Spinal Tap-style faux documentary. I especially like the reaction shots of the rest of the panel - a masterclass in how to facepalm without putting your palm to your face.

Like this you mean

Lastlight. · 23-05-2014 05:51PM

endacl wrote: »

Absolutely. 100%. And I'm sure you also endorse those who call her out on her views, and back up their point of view with facts?

You do? Of course you do!

Nice one. Fair play. That's democracy in action.

What have you got against her expressing her Romanism? That is what she believes in, isn't she entitled to those views? You don't have to vote for her.

Knasher · 23-05-2014 05:55PM

Lastlight. wrote: »

What have you got against her expressing her Romanism? That is what she believes in, isn't she entitled to those views? You don't have to vote for her.

Had to look up what Romanism is, apparently it is a derogatory term for Catholicism.

Did I ruin the joke by explaining it?

endacl · 23-05-2014 05:55PM

Lastlight. wrote: »

What have you got against her expressing her Romanism? That is what she believes in, isn't she entitled to those views? You don't have to vote for her.

Nothing at all. You're spot on. 100%. Fair play and all that. As I said. Totally agree with you.

As an aside, did any Moone Boy aficionados notice that she got 'The Mary'?

shruikan2553 · 23-05-2014 06:02PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Some implied she was mentally unwell as being loopy, a nutjob. Because she does not hold the views of the person saying this - that is a prejudice.

One can disagree with someone without needing to call that person names, which also implied they had a problem with other people who could be mentally unwell, as it was used as a putdown.

1. Still not prejudice. "preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience."
The experience was listening to what she had to say, the reasoning was that she was wrong and pulling the crap out of her ass. Abolition of the family? Water contaminated by contraceptive pills? Granny tax? Then theres the whole talking over others when they try to speak. She wasnt too keen on listening to what they had to say.

Grayson · 23-05-2014 06:05PM

That woman is 100% bat**** crazy.I got halfway through and just gave up. At that point she'd said that the EU was trying to destroy the family by forcing women to work. She said he wanted to get rid of the cervical cancer vaccine because it's hoax.

I carried on and was amazed to hear about the Gay liberation front (or was it army) and their manifesto to destroy the family.

The woman is a loon. 100% certifiable. She's not just seeing conspiracies, she's dangerous. Stopping girls from getting a cancer vaccine is dangerous.

She's the kind of nut-job who probably thinks you can pray away illnesses.

P. Breathnach · 23-05-2014 06:05PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Oh please, the media is gay obsessed, it is literally pushed down our throats....

You should choose your words more carefully.

It's not even being figuratively being pushed down anybody's throat. I don't see anybody advocating compulsory homosexuality.

Turtwig · 23-05-2014 06:05PM

Good God! Holy Mary and Jesus! That video is terrible. Respect her right to an opinion, but it's impossible to respect her opinion.

Borderfox · 23-05-2014 06:15PM

The Gay liberation front of the liberation front for gays? F***ing splitters

Grayson · 23-05-2014 06:18PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Some implied she was mentally unwell as being loopy, a nutjob. Because she does not hold the views of the person saying this - that is a prejudice.

One can disagree with someone without needing to call that person names, which also implied they had a problem with other people who could be mentally unwell, as it was used as a putdown.

When someone hold paranoid and delusional beliefs, then it's perfectly ok to call them nutjobs.

I honestly don't know how everyone wasn't laughing at her when she was talking. When she mentioned the gay manifesto I burst out laughing. .

Son Of A Vidic · 23-05-2014 06:20PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Sad to think people like her still exist in 2014.

Why is it sad? Because her views differ from yours? Just because her views don't conform, doesn't mean she should not have a voice or an entitlement to express them.

littleblackDRS · 23-05-2014 06:25PM

Turtwig wrote: »

Respect her right to an opinion, but it's impossible to respect her opinion.

+1

Corkfeen · 23-05-2014 06:30PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Oh please, the media is gay obsessed, it is literally pushed down our throats, you must support gay marriage, you must support Panti, oh John Waters is a terrible man and anyone not for these new made up so called rights like SSM are homophobic.

What is loopy, is people aren't being allowed to express their views freely without someone wanting to put a label on that person.

Yes there is oestrogen pollution and yes it is never really talked about.

At least Theresa Heaney has got people talking and it is not all the stuff the PC brigade scream and shout about what we have to support.
There are plenty of people sick of the liberal media and the brainwashed people who agree with it because they feel they need to fit in.
If they said what they really felt like saying they would be put up and be bashed like Ms Heaney.

So,have you read the study that states oestrogen from the pill has no impact upon oestrogen in water? But you'll be the idiot who votes for a conservative candidate purely because her idiotic views are called up as such. Ironically,you are somewhat brainwashed into a martyr complex. She was allowed on national television,if she airs ill thought out views. She will be criticised for it. She behaved like a homophobic conspiracy theorist. So no sympathy will go her way.

Also,who exactly prevented her from expressing her views? She was on two panel shows during the week and had 7 minutes to rant in the video linked above.

foxy farmer · 23-05-2014 06:35PM

If I was her daughter I'd be looking for a divorce. Must have met Jim Corr somewhere.

SaveOurLyric · 23-05-2014 06:48PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Why is it sad? Because her views differ from yours? Just because her views don't conform, doesn't mean she should not have a voice or an entitlement to express them.

Because we should expect more from a few hundred years of enlightenment and a modern education. Sad that there are redoubts of middle ages religious thinking.

D Weasel · 23-05-2014 06:55PM

But is she for or agin blowjobs?

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 08:09PM

P. Breathnach wrote: »

You should choose your words more carefully.

It's not even being figuratively being pushed down anybody's throat. I don't see anybody advocating compulsory homosexuality.

The whole Panti controversy, a person who was given free reign to smear people as being homophobic because some people didn't support same sex marriage.
RTE had let it go on the night, but knew they were in the wrong and paid up only when challenged.
Then some appear in the media and label Catholics as homophobic if they follow their faith, even if they don't hate or have a fear of homosexuals...given the word phobia is used.

Not the first time RTE ended up in legal trouble, their anti-Catholic stance led to the Fr Reynolds lies being aired as if the truth.
This kind of dead brained liberal approach in the media towards religion where people give opinion based on ignorance is rife.
They hold the opinion it is ok to be Catholic once you don't follow your religion.
This is why you get interviewers and fake Catholic politicians having a problem with people like Theresa Heaney who doesn't support same sex marriage.
We live in a supposed democracy yet all parties are sheep on the issue as they don't want to get branded as homophobic.
Enda Kenny was against it, Barack Obama was against it but for political reasons they changed their tune, it is so much easier being the sheep in a flock of sheep as you won't get hassled unlike if you are the one who has the courage to say something different.

When all the parties choose to be sheep, we don't have a real democracy. People shouldn't be afraid to be different, it was the same in the abortion debate.
All party leaders were sheep, some threw members out of the political party for holding a different view, conservative members were not wanted in Fine Gael, Labour, Sinn Fein, and Micheal Martin tried the same in Fianna Fail but there a majority were not having it and he had to back down.

If conservative voters are not going to be represented by political parties, it will end up with people like Theresa Heaney having a larger voice due to the lack of democracy among the political parties who want to be sheep all bleating from the same sheepish stance.

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 08:17PM

Corkfeen wrote: »

So,have you read the study that states oestrogen from the pill has no impact upon oestrogen in water? But you'll be the idiot who votes for a conservative candidate purely because her idiotic views are called up as such. Ironically,you are somewhat brainwashed into a martyr complex. She was allowed on national television,if she airs ill thought out views. She will be criticised for it. She behaved like a homophobic conspiracy theorist. So no sympathy will go her way.

Also,who exactly prevented her from expressing her views? She was on two panel shows during the week and had 7 minutes to rant in the video linked above.

Sorry but I am not an idiot.
The idiots are the people who believe we should all support the same views on things.

Look at Simon Harris in the video, nearly having a heart attack because what practicing Christian would vote for their version of the Christian Democrats, only deluded ones would.

Theresa Heaney on Vincent Browne

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