Theresa Heaney on Vincent Browne

Bubbaclaus

Sad to think people like her still exist in 2014.

Will she even get any votes outside of her family members?

Kermit.de.frog

She is entitled to her views and opinions OP. I don't know what type of country you want to live in but I don't want to live in one where people cannot stand for election based on their own beliefs and put a case to the public.

jimgoose

Can someone give me the executive summary? One-legged Ethiopian bisexual Womyn for President, or douse 'em in Holy Water and learn 'em with fire??

Bubbaclaus

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

She is entitled to her views and opinions OP.

You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.


edit: and to add, I never said she shouldn't be allowed run. I said it was sad that these types still exist in the 21st Century.

shruikan2553

At least she is telling us she is insane now so we know not to vote for her. Although I can't imagine myself voting for anyone in a party called Catholic Democrats anyway.

Kermit.de.frog

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.

The voters can decide that not you. I don't support her views but she at least she has the courage to stand by her own convictions no matter what you think of them - that is far more than can be said for a lot of people in this country.

I respect anybody who stands for election no matter what their views. It is not an easy thing to do.

Bubbaclaus

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The voters can decide that not you. I don't support her views but she at least she has the courage to stand by her own convictions no matter what you think of them - that is far more than can be said for a lot of people in this country.

I respect anybody who stands for election no matter what their views. It is not an easy thing to do.

I'm not sure where you are getting the suggestion I said she shouldn't be allowed run. I never made such a claim.

Muise...

It like a Spinal Tap-style faux documentary. I especially like the reaction shots of the rest of the panel - a masterclass in how to facepalm without putting your palm to your face.

kneemos

The least uptight looking of the religious headbangers that I've seem.Normally there's a stern bitter look about them.

Muise...

jimgoose wrote: »

Can someone give me the executive summary? One-legged Ethiopian bisexual Womyn for President, or douse 'em in Holy Water and learn 'em with fire??

The Holy Water has been contaminated by oestrogen from the contraceptive pill, and cervical cancer vaccine (I think), getting into the sacred Irish streams and rivers. The report on this is suppressed till 2016 so they can push the water charges through. So now.

jimgoose

Muise... wrote: »

The Holy Water has been contaminated by oestrogen from the contraceptive pill, and cervical cancer vaccine (I think), getting into the sacred Irish streams and rivers. The report on this is suppressed till 2016 so they can push the water charges through. So now.

Right you are, Squire. Thought it might be along those lines.

Bubbaclaus

My favourite bit is where she says she has nothing against gays, she just doesn't want them to have equal rights.

Jimoslimos

Wait a minute...she wants mothers to stay at home to look after their children, yet immediately after she is against tax incentives being removed for grandparents who look after children (whilst their mothers are presumably out working :rolleyes:)

Don't even get me started on vaccines.

Reformed Character

The woman is clearly demented, but the proof of how out of touch she is with reality will be when the ballots are counted.

tayto lover

Life's a box of chocolates folks. It takes all kinds.

Sunglasses Ron

I'd vote for her just to piss off the PC mob. If she got elected their reaction would just be too good.


edit- I've watched more. She's even worse than the PC brigadiers. Even seeing them shi't is not worth electing this wingnut.

jimgoose

tayto lover wrote: »

Life's a box of chocolates folks. It takes all kinds.

Common misconception. It doesn't necessarily take all kinds, but we seem to have them anyway.

kneemos

Muise... wrote: »

The Holy Water has been contaminated by oestrogen from the contraceptive pill, and cervical cancer vaccine (I think), getting into the sacred Irish streams and rivers. The report on this is suppressed till 2016 so they can push the water charges through. So now.

Thought you were joking,but no.

Reformed Character

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

I'd vote for her just to piss off the PC mob. If she got elected their reaction would just be too good.

What is it you have against personal computers?

thomas anderson.

No lads No

It is people like this who are keeping Ireland in the dark ages

LuckyLloyd

I thought she was wonderfully entertaining to be perfectly honest. The contamination of rivers by contraceptive pills nonsense was delicously cuckoo crazy.

Corkfeen

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

She is entitled to her views and opinions OP. I don't know what type of country you want to live in but I don't want to live in one where people cannot stand for election based on their own beliefs and put a case to the public.

Her cervical cancer statements are down right dangerous. Thankfully she offsetted by carrying on to speak of oestrogen in the water supply. She is free to have her opinions but we are also free to say how completely nuts they are. Her opinion is not founded in reality.

Sunglasses Ron

"the waterways of Ireland are contaminated with estrogen from the contraceptive pill"

I've read better logic on the CT forum.

Muise...

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I thought she was wonderfully entertaining to be perfectly honest. The contamination of rivers by contraceptive pills nonsense was delicously cuckoo crazy.

Even Enoch Powell didn't envisage rivers of oestrogen. You could sing that to the Boney M tune though.

laoisman11

Muise... wrote: »

The Holy Water has been contaminated by oestrogen from the contraceptive pill, and cervical cancer vaccine (I think), getting into the sacred Irish streams and rivers. The report on this is suppressed till 2016 so they can push the water charges through. So now.

I thought you were making that up........

Then I watched the clip.

bear1

Nice to see that they let the looneys out once in a while.

stmol32

Fookin hell, the mental old cow might actually be right.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/male-fertility-fears-over-pollution-in-water-supply-654356.html

bear1

stmol32 wrote: »

Fookin hell, the mental old cow might actually be right.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/male-fertility-fears-over-pollution-in-water-supply-654356.html

Not Ireland though

miss-p

stmol32 wrote: »

Fookin hell, the mental old cow might actually be right.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/male-fertility-fears-over-pollution-in-water-supply-654356.html

Depends where you get your information from http://www.arhp.org/publications-and-resources/contraception-journal/august-2011

A literature review published in Environmental Science and Technology by researchers at the UCSF PRHE debunks the myth that birth control pills (and other estrogen-based hormonal contraceptives) are a major contributor to the presence of estrogenic compounds in waterways. The reviewers conclude that birth control pills contribute a negligible amount of synthetic estrogen to waterways, and EE2 is minimal or nonexistent in drinking water.8 The notion of unsuspecting Americans drinking water filled with birth control hormones may get headlines—but it does not accurately describe the state of the science.

The UCSF review cites several other sources of endocrine-disrupting compounds in our water, including synthetic estrogens in crop fertilizer (e.g., Atrazine), synthetic and natural estrogens from livestock, including dairy cows, which can be fed hormones to increase milk production, and an unknown number of industrial chemicals, like plastic additive bisphenol-A (BPA). Industrial chemicals may enter waterways either through chemical plant runoff or the disposal of products in landfills (Fig 1). Chemicals in pharmaceuticals such as anti-seizure medications and anti-depressants may also mimic estrogen.18 Furthermore, women using birth control are not the only ones flushing estrogen down the drain. Pregnant women excrete high levels of natural estrogens, and nearly everyone (both women and men) produce some amount of natural estrogens also released into wastewater.8

RobertKK

Dr Tony Byrne, head of the University of Ulster's photocatalysis research group, said: "When a woman takes these pills only about 20% of the oestrogens are used by her body and she discharges 80% into the sewage system.
"The problem is that these oestrogens can be effective at nanogram levels - traces so small that they are very hard to detect.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/1897419.stm

golfball37

She comes across as backward and aykward but I agree with her on a lot of issues. Especially the mother working at home being rewarded for it and on Gay Marriage.

She ruined perfectly cogent arguments with her water supply, vaccine story and Gays want to end the family nonsense but she comes across as a nice lady who is well intentioned. She doesn't deserve the abuse she has being getting for having the conviction to convey her own personal beliefs, unlike most other people running for office who will be all things to everybody.

Theresa is getting my no 1 as I would like to see her get her expenses back, my 2 is in effect my no1 then which is the great thing about STV.

Muise...

RobertKK wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/1897419.stm

This link, to a generalised news item from the BBC, predates miss-p's link to a peer reviewed journal by 9 years. It's not even close to a counter argument.

RobertKK

Japan issues warning in regards to cervical cancer vaccine after health issues associated with vaccine.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08/24/national/science-health/victims-hit-cervical-cancer-vaccines/#.U38-pHZiPTc

Teenagers injured or disabled by cervical cancer vaccines are stepping up efforts to permanently end the government’s subsidy program for injections of Cervarix and Gardasil.
On Friday, eight teens, accompanied by their parents, called out health minister Norihisa Tamura over the issue. The schoolgirls, aged from 14 to 18 — including four in wheelchairs — and their parents are members of the Nationwide Liaison Association of Cervical Cancer Vaccine Victims and Parents.
Tamura was handed five petitions in a meeting with the group at the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry, association chief Mika Matsufuji said afterward. The request to abolish the vaccination program topped the list.

http://preventdisease.com/news/13/061713_Japans-Health-Ministry-Withdraws-Cervical-Cancer-Vaccine.shtml

Japan's health ministry issued a nationwide notice that cervical cancer vaccinations should no longer be recommended for girls due to several hundred adverse reactions to the vaccines reported.

Knasher

Honestly it is people like her who get me out to vote. It's often hard to feel motivated by the rest of the candidates, but I really do feel I have a duty to make sure she doesn't have any power.

Lone Stone

Yea i saw this the other night, it was like some thing of father ted. She was like some mad anti gay conspiracy theorist lol.

RobertKK

Muise... wrote: »

This link, to a generalised news item from the BBC, predates miss-p's link to a peer reviewed journal by 9 years. It's not even close to a counter argument.

Peer reviewed information in the early 70's had us heading towards an ice age.

Muise...

RobertKK wrote: »

Peer reviewed information in the early 70's had us heading towards an ice age.

That is why science always continues to research and review information, rather than picking up now-defunct results to back up our arguments.

RobertKK

Muise... wrote: »

That is why science always continues to research and review information, rather than picking up now-defunct results to back up our arguments.

We had problems with scientists using bias to influence information, look up the moving weather stations in China.
Do you know the personal views of the people who peer review stuff?

The moving weather stations of China were accepted into a peer reviewed document despite the fraud.

Muise...

RobertKK wrote: »

We had problems with scientists using bias to influence information, look up the moving weather stations in China.
Do you know the personal views of the people who peer review stuff?

The moving weather stations of China were accepted into a peer reviewed document despite the fraud.

And now it is debunked. Fraud in some instances does not mean that all of the rest of science is suspect. That's illogical. I trust scientists to carry out research, tests and reviews, a key part of which is putting their personal views aside. I do not trust people who use incomplete or debunked data to mislead the public into positions that have nothing to do with science and everything to do with social, political or commercial gain.

miss-p

@RobertKK is that really relevant to this?
You have a news article from 2002 that suggests that oestrogen from pills is possibly affecting fish. I have a scientific peer reviewed paper that details that the % of oestrogen from pills is much less than multiple other sources.

jimgoose

RobertKK wrote: »

We had problems with scientists using bias to influence information, look up the moving weather stations in China.
Do you know the personal views of the people who peer review stuff?

The moving weather stations of China were accepted into a peer reviewed document despite the fraud.

Side-effects to vaccine noticed. Civilisation as we know it due to end next Thursday. And now, the weather.

In other news, I pissed into a river upstream of a water-treatment plant the other day. Expect to slowly transform into an incredibly handsome, virile, intelligent man who posts sh1te on the Internet. Let the Lovecraftian nameless creeping horror begin! :cool:

RobertKK

miss-p wrote: »

@RobertKK is that really relevant to this?
You have a news article from 2002 that suggests that oestrogen from pills is possibly affecting fish. I have a scientific peer reviewed paper that details that the % of oestrogen from pills is much less than multiple other sources.

There are many sources for oestrogen pollution. Much less doesn't mean none which means they are one source for pollution.

RobertKK

jimgoose wrote: »

Side-effects to vaccine noticed. Civilisation as we know it due to end next Thursday. And now, the weather.

In other news, I pissed into a river upstream of a water-treatment plant the other day. Expect to slowly transform into an incredibly handsome, virile, intelligent man who posts sh1te on the Internet. Let the Lovecraftian nameless creeping horror begin! :cool:

I have my own water supply, no water charges either :P

jimgoose

RobertKK wrote: »

I have my own water supply, no water charges either :P

Never fear, the Phantom Pisser'll get you an' all! :cool:

Muise...

jimgoose wrote: »

Never fear, the Phantom Pisser'll get you an' all! :cool:

and jimgoose has way more oestrogen than jimgander!

jimgoose

Muise... wrote: »

and jimgoose has way more oestrogen than jimgander!

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, sure!

Muise...

jimgoose wrote: »

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, sure!

mmmm contraceptive sauce...

jimgoose

Muise... wrote: »

<BARRY WHITE VOICE>mmmm contraceptive sauce...</BARRY WHITE VOICE>

FYP.

wp_rathead

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The voters can decide that not you.

No you can't make up your facts.
Facts are facts.
You can't make up a facts based on an opinion.

Corkfeen

RobertKK wrote: »

There are many sources for oestrogen pollution. Much less doesn't mean none which means they are one source for pollution.

What exactly do you think homeopathic doses of oestrogen are doing?

Czarcasm

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Sad to think people like her still exist in 2014.

People like her have always, and will always exist, throughout time. Society still hasn't evolved to a point where everyone understands that respect for a person's right to express their opinions goes both ways. It's actually a testament to how far Irish society has come that the woman to her right is as she admits herself "a divorced protestant on the pill", and yet they're sharing the same space on the national airwaves.

Will she even get any votes outside of her family members?

Well having seen her election leaflet the other day on another forum here, t'was some pack of lies, no different from any politician then, and yet they get votes from outside their own family members, so there's every chance this woman could be elected by people who think Ireland has swung too far left for their liking.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss her opinion as sad tbh, be it 1914, or 2014, the year is irrelevant, because while YOU may not take her seriously, she's still running for election, and you're not, so straight away she stands a better chance or being elected than you do!