Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

bumper234 · 23-05-2014 03:05PM

Thelonious wrote: »

The Provisional IRA were not terrorists, they were freedom fighters.

Sure

Iwasfrozen · 23-05-2014 03:07PM

Thelonious wrote: »

The Provisional IRA were not terrorists, they were freedom fighters.

Is that what the children killers tell themselves to sleep at night?

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 03:10PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Martin Mc Guinness there are others but you only asked for one.

As bumper correctly predicts...where is the quote where he confesses to being a terrorist?

fergus1001 · 23-05-2014 03:10PM

This thread is a pointless exercise

Shinners are no worse than the 5 point plan touting fg and the disastrous ff and labour who are to connected to the unions and the greens who are well just the greens so who else are we left with besides those and the independent candidate's

Parish pump and the political dynasties should be run out of town

Iwasfrozen · 23-05-2014 03:12PM

theemigrant wrote: »

Martin McGuiness would never refer to himself or any other volunteer as a terrorist…..

Martin McGuiness could put a baseball cap on sideways and refer to himself as Micky G for all I care.

Nodin · 23-05-2014 03:12PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Martin McGuiness could put a baseball cap on sideways and refer to himself as Micky G for all I care.

Yet here you are.

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 03:13PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Is that what the children killers tell themselves to sleep at night?

Ask David Cameron maybe?

Iwasfrozen · 23-05-2014 03:14PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

As bumper correctly predicts...where is the quote where he confesses to being a terrorist?

Confessing IRA membership is a confession of terrorism. Now let's leave it at that. This is a pointless discussion.

RollieFingers · 23-05-2014 03:18PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Makes me think

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/17/article-1387878-0C1D311000000578-842_634x379.jpg

? I have no interest in Scottish football!

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 03:18PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Confessing IRA membership is a confession of terrorism. Now let's leave it at that. This is a pointless discussion.

You put your word into his and others mouth's, and couldn't back it up with a quote. Basically, you lied to make a cheap point.

Let's just leave that there instead.

bumper234 · 23-05-2014 03:27PM

Thelonious wrote: »

The Provisional IRA were not terrorists, they were freedom fighters.

Several people have stated in the thread that the IRA waged a campaign of terror.

example

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Because they decided to embark on a campaign of terror deliberately targetted at British citizens. A dirty business that was effective, even if it was morally questionable.

Do you know who conducts campaigns of terror??

Terrorism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts that are intended to create fear (terror); are perpetrated for a religious, political, or ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants

davycc · 23-05-2014 03:28PM

RollieFingers wrote: »

Just on my way out the door to vote for Sinn Fein, g'wan the lads!

same here getting will gladly be getting both my first preference votes in the local and euro..

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 03:33PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Several people have stated in the thread that the IRA waged a campaign of terror.

example

Do you know who conducts campaigns of terror??

Terrorism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Which makes Churchill a terrorist too, given that the bombing of Dresden and Colonge where deliberately designed by Harris to cause terror and so break morale.

Valetta · 23-05-2014 03:35PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Which makes Churchill a terrorist too, given that the bombing of Dresden and Colonge where deliberately designed by Harris to cause terror and so break morale.

Whataboutery. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

bumper234 · 23-05-2014 03:38PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Which makes Churchill a terrorist too, given that the bombing of Dresden and Colonge where deliberately designed by Harris to cause terror and so break morale.

Sure,

The IRA blowing up innocent kids by planting bombs in bins on the street and boats is the same as innocent kids dying in the middle of a world war :rolleyes:

Your next whataboutery should consist of how America nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the kids that died there

kingchess · 23-05-2014 03:40PM

you made the point for him

LuckyLloyd · 23-05-2014 03:40PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Effective in what way? Warrington was the final straw for a lot of PIRA sympathisers which eventually forced them to the negotiating table.

Similarly, pressure was put on the British Government to put an end to it all, so they were forced to negotiate.

Effective in achieving the PIRA's sole aim of a United Ireland by physical force? I think it's pretty safe to say we are still a good way off that.

We now have a situation where Sinn Feinn share power in the North and are moving slowly towards same in the South. Political prisoners released, the replacement of the RUC, etc.

A peace that has achieved a far better situation than that which existed in the early seventies essentially. The primary goal of a United Ireland was not achieved, but a lot of secondary goals were achieved. Could they have been achieved without the terror campaign in the UK? Million dollar question right there, but if the IRA's decision was to prosecute violence that put pressure on the UK government that was an undoubtedly an effecive way to do it.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 23-05-2014 03:41PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Oh here we go again

Indeed.

It's ok to claim they were at war but as soon as some IRA scumbag (usually hiding ready to ambush) was killed they cried shoot to kill and not fair.

You do realise that undercover British agents (2min mark) and joyriders (26min mark) were killed under the shoot-to-kill policy, don't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RoEtRtRxRQ

Would also love to see your evidence for that seeing as there is no question about their role.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Nairac

Also, see the statements of Capt Fred Holroyd (19m05sec / 24m46sec) and Colin Wallace (27m37sec).

*Contains images (from 4m50s to 5m50sec) which are quite graphic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNvZHDafi38

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 03:46PM

Valetta wrote: »

Whataboutery. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Absolutery. :rolleyes:

Spring Onion · 23-05-2014 03:54PM

Thelonious wrote: »

The Provisional IRA were not terrorists, they were freedom fighters.

Many of them, probably the majority, were more money grabbers than freedom fighters. Did they get their freedom? I know many got rich.

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 04:13PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

Many of them, probably the majority, were more money grabbers than freedom fighters. Did they get their freedom? I know many got rich.

Oh dear...we do have a bad dose of the hates. :rolleyes:

Iwasfrozen · 23-05-2014 04:16PM

I see the Shinners are out in force today. Just come back from the voting booth. Needless to say my pencil never soiled itself by marking SF's box.

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 04:18PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I see the Shinners are out in force today. Just come back from the voting booth. Needless to say my pencil never soiled itself by marking SF's box.

FG? FF? Lab?

Iwasfrozen · 23-05-2014 04:21PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

FG? FF? Lab?

None of your business.

Banjo String · 23-05-2014 04:24PM

Valetta wrote: »

Whataboutery. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Today's word of the day will be just the same as yesterday's.

"whataboutery"

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I see the Shinners are out in force today. Just come back from the voting booth. Needless to say my pencil never soiled itself by marking SF's box.

You come across as a lad who has never put his pencil anywhere near any box.

ever.

Wink wink. Nudge nudge.

Happyman42 · 23-05-2014 04:26PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

None of your business.

Oh the shame, the shame!

bumper234 · 23-05-2014 04:27PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Oh the shame, the shame!

Because he chooses not to say who he voted for? Or should he be shouting from the rooftops waving a flag like the shinners seem to be doing?

dark crystal · 23-05-2014 04:27PM

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I see the Shinners are out in force today. Just come back from the voting booth. Needless to say my pencil never soiled itself by marking SF's box.

Thanks for letting us all know - democracy truly is a wonderful thing.

By the way, can pencils actually soil themselves?

czx · 23-05-2014 04:28PM

Banjo String wrote: »

You come across as a lad who has never put his pencil anywhere near any box.

ever.

Wink wink. Nudge nudge.

Only real men vote SF....
...and bomb people

Iwasfrozen · 23-05-2014 04:28PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Thanks for letting us all know - democracy truly is a wonderful thing.

By the way, can pencils actually soil themselves?

When used to vote for SF, yes. Yes they can.

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