Theresa Heaney on Vincent Browne

Muise... · 23-05-2014 01:31PM

RobertKK wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/1897419.stm

This link, to a generalised news item from the BBC, predates miss-p's link to a peer reviewed journal by 9 years. It's not even close to a counter argument.

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 01:32PM

Japan issues warning in regards to cervical cancer vaccine after health issues associated with vaccine.

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/08/24/national/science-health/victims-hit-cervical-cancer-vaccines/#.U38-pHZiPTc

Teenagers injured or disabled by cervical cancer vaccines are stepping up efforts to permanently end the government’s subsidy program for injections of Cervarix and Gardasil.
On Friday, eight teens, accompanied by their parents, called out health minister Norihisa Tamura over the issue. The schoolgirls, aged from 14 to 18 — including four in wheelchairs — and their parents are members of the Nationwide Liaison Association of Cervical Cancer Vaccine Victims and Parents.
Tamura was handed five petitions in a meeting with the group at the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry, association chief Mika Matsufuji said afterward. The request to abolish the vaccination program topped the list.

http://preventdisease.com/news/13/061713_Japans-Health-Ministry-Withdraws-Cervical-Cancer-Vaccine.shtml

Japan's health ministry issued a nationwide notice that cervical cancer vaccinations should no longer be recommended for girls due to several hundred adverse reactions to the vaccines reported.

Knasher · 23-05-2014 01:32PM

Honestly it is people like her who get me out to vote. It's often hard to feel motivated by the rest of the candidates, but I really do feel I have a duty to make sure she doesn't have any power.

Lone Stone · 23-05-2014 01:35PM

Yea i saw this the other night, it was like some thing of father ted. She was like some mad anti gay conspiracy theorist lol.

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 01:35PM

Muise... wrote: »

This link, to a generalised news item from the BBC, predates miss-p's link to a peer reviewed journal by 9 years. It's not even close to a counter argument.

Peer reviewed information in the early 70's had us heading towards an ice age.

Muise... · 23-05-2014 01:40PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Peer reviewed information in the early 70's had us heading towards an ice age.

That is why science always continues to research and review information, rather than picking up now-defunct results to back up our arguments.

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 01:51PM

Muise... wrote: »

That is why science always continues to research and review information, rather than picking up now-defunct results to back up our arguments.

We had problems with scientists using bias to influence information, look up the moving weather stations in China.
Do you know the personal views of the people who peer review stuff?

The moving weather stations of China were accepted into a peer reviewed document despite the fraud.

Muise... · 23-05-2014 01:58PM

RobertKK wrote: »

We had problems with scientists using bias to influence information, look up the moving weather stations in China.
Do you know the personal views of the people who peer review stuff?

The moving weather stations of China were accepted into a peer reviewed document despite the fraud.

And now it is debunked. Fraud in some instances does not mean that all of the rest of science is suspect. That's illogical. I trust scientists to carry out research, tests and reviews, a key part of which is putting their personal views aside. I do not trust people who use incomplete or debunked data to mislead the public into positions that have nothing to do with science and everything to do with social, political or commercial gain.

miss-p · 23-05-2014 01:59PM

@RobertKK is that really relevant to this?
You have a news article from 2002 that suggests that oestrogen from pills is possibly affecting fish. I have a scientific peer reviewed paper that details that the % of oestrogen from pills is much less than multiple other sources.

jimgoose · 23-05-2014 02:12PM

RobertKK wrote: »

We had problems with scientists using bias to influence information, look up the moving weather stations in China.
Do you know the personal views of the people who peer review stuff?

The moving weather stations of China were accepted into a peer reviewed document despite the fraud.

Side-effects to vaccine noticed. Civilisation as we know it due to end next Thursday. And now, the weather.

In other news, I pissed into a river upstream of a water-treatment plant the other day. Expect to slowly transform into an incredibly handsome, virile, intelligent man who posts sh1te on the Internet. Let the Lovecraftian nameless creeping horror begin! :cool:

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 02:21PM

miss-p wrote: »

@RobertKK is that really relevant to this?
You have a news article from 2002 that suggests that oestrogen from pills is possibly affecting fish. I have a scientific peer reviewed paper that details that the % of oestrogen from pills is much less than multiple other sources.

There are many sources for oestrogen pollution. Much less doesn't mean none which means they are one source for pollution.

RobertKK · 23-05-2014 02:22PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Side-effects to vaccine noticed. Civilisation as we know it due to end next Thursday. And now, the weather.

In other news, I pissed into a river upstream of a water-treatment plant the other day. Expect to slowly transform into an incredibly handsome, virile, intelligent man who posts sh1te on the Internet. Let the Lovecraftian nameless creeping horror begin! :cool:

I have my own water supply, no water charges either :P

jimgoose · 23-05-2014 02:27PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I have my own water supply, no water charges either :P

Never fear, the Phantom Pisser'll get you an' all! :cool:

Muise... · 23-05-2014 02:29PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Never fear, the Phantom Pisser'll get you an' all! :cool:

and jimgoose has way more oestrogen than jimgander!

jimgoose · 23-05-2014 02:30PM

Muise... wrote: »

and jimgoose has way more oestrogen than jimgander!

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, sure!

Muise... · 23-05-2014 02:31PM

jimgoose wrote: »

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, sure!

mmmm contraceptive sauce...

jimgoose · 23-05-2014 02:36PM

Muise... wrote: »

<BARRY WHITE VOICE>mmmm contraceptive sauce...</BARRY WHITE VOICE>

FYP.

wp_rathead · 23-05-2014 02:36PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The voters can decide that not you.

No you can't make up your facts.
Facts are facts.
You can't make up a facts based on an opinion.

Corkfeen · 23-05-2014 02:37PM

RobertKK wrote: »

There are many sources for oestrogen pollution. Much less doesn't mean none which means they are one source for pollution.

What exactly do you think homeopathic doses of oestrogen are doing?

Czarcasm · 23-05-2014 02:41PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Sad to think people like her still exist in 2014.

People like her have always, and will always exist, throughout time. Society still hasn't evolved to a point where everyone understands that respect for a person's right to express their opinions goes both ways. It's actually a testament to how far Irish society has come that the woman to her right is as she admits herself "a divorced protestant on the pill", and yet they're sharing the same space on the national airwaves.

Will she even get any votes outside of her family members?

Well having seen her election leaflet the other day on another forum here, t'was some pack of lies, no different from any politician then, and yet they get votes from outside their own family members, so there's every chance this woman could be elected by people who think Ireland has swung too far left for their liking.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss her opinion as sad tbh, be it 1914, or 2014, the year is irrelevant, because while YOU may not take her seriously, she's still running for election, and you're not, so straight away she stands a better chance or being elected than you do!

jimgoose · 23-05-2014 02:41PM

Corkfeen wrote: »

What exactly do you think homeopathic doses of oestrogen are doing?

Turning good, God-fearing people into flaming homeos, of course! Are you blind, man??

Zulu · 23-05-2014 02:44PM

Sweet baby jesus.

Bubbaclaus · 23-05-2014 02:52PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss her opinion as sad tbh, be it 1914, or 2014, the year is irrelevant, because while YOU may not take her seriously, she's still running for election, and you're not, so straight away she stands a better chance or being elected than you do!

If I ever wanted to run for election I would feel pretty confident of getting more votes than this nutter.

topper75 · 23-05-2014 02:55PM

That is seven minutes of solid, popcorn-chomping, guffawing, and smirking Vincenzo right there. Seem like caricatures rather real politicians.

Might actually go back watching him.

23-05-2014 02:55PM

She comes across as loopy, would her family not have tried to stop her though they must have known the comments she would bring on herself.

wp_rathead · 23-05-2014 02:57PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

If I ever wanted to run for election I would feel pretty confident of getting more votes than this nutter.

Maybe not - she'll get the catholic fundie vote while there would be more competition for your target demographic (ie progressive people)

Czarcasm · 23-05-2014 03:01PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

If I ever wanted to run for election I would feel pretty confident of getting more votes than this nutter.

IF...

We'll never know whether the rest of your post is true or not because you haven't run for election. Therefore right now, she stands a better chance of having her opinion heard among the policy makers in Europe than you do.

Scary, isn't it?

Bubbaclaus · 23-05-2014 03:01PM

wprathead wrote: »

Maybe not - she'll get the catholic fundie vote while there would be more competition for your target demographic (ie progressive people)

A recent poll put her at less than 1%. I've a rather large family, I think I could just about pull it off

:P

poundapunnet · 23-05-2014 03:03PM

If I didn't recognise a couple of the faces and someone told me this was a piss-take I'd probably believe them.

It's always nice to see these kinds of people on the telly though, the more exposure they get the more people can see how cracked they are. It would have been nice if everyone hadn't started actually sneering and talking over her at the end though, besides the fact that it's pretty rude I dare say someone somewhere is pointing to that right now as evidence of how she's 'not allowed to hold her views' or 'being censored' or some crap.

Absolutely love how she's bringing up 'The Gay Liberation Front Manifesto' from the seventies, obviously it'd go down a fcuking treat if you brought up some of the nicer stuff that was preached or practiced by the Catholic church.

Nodin · 23-05-2014 03:06PM

Zulu wrote: »

Sweet baby jesus.

If de liberals had der way, he would have never been born, because young mary would have been on de pill.

Theresa Heaney on Vincent Browne

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