IRA t-shirts

alfa beta · 23-05-2014 12:10PM #1

I'm surprised. I'm genuinely surprised. But hey, maybe I'm just naive.

You go to Sinn Fein's website, go to their 'news' page, you click on the banner for the Sinn Fein Online Book Store and you find these sorta t-shirts for sale.

http://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/ira-undefeated-army/

http://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/unrepentant-fenian-bastard/

Hey look - I mean people can wear whatever the hell they like as far as I'm concerned. I just thought that a party that was gaining ground all over the country and establishing itself as a genuinely large and legitimate political force on both sides of the border wouldn't be selling merchandise with wording such as 'Unrepentant Fenian Bastard' and 'IRA Undefeated Army' and the like.

I thought with all the talk of inclusiveness and fairness and reconciliation etc. they'd moved on a bit from that. ('Unrepentant Fenian Bastard' as a branding message doesn't really work alongside inclusiveness in my view.)

And don't get me wrong. I'm not anti-Sinn Fein by any stretch. They make good arguments as a party and they appear to offer an interesting left-wing alternative to what's currently in place. But if this is the sorta thing they sell to fund the party, and if this is the sort of message they're happy to convey on their merchandise, then I think it's all a bit...grubby or lowlife something along those lines.

I'm also sure there must be plenty 'new' Sinn Fein supporters out there who must feel a bit uncomfortable with this stuff.

Are other people as surprised as I am that they're selling this through their website? Or is it just me?

I Heart Internet · 23-05-2014 12:12PM

Ah they love a bit of scumbaggery draped in nationalism though OP.

These, celtic shirts and tracksuits are what 98% of sinn fein supporters wear.

Lenin Skynard · 23-05-2014 12:16PM

Just stumbled upon that when you were shopping for blue shirts eh.

No Pants · 23-05-2014 12:17PM

alfa beta wrote: »

They make good arguments as a party

Would you mind sharing one please?

josip · 23-05-2014 12:18PM

Too many people in Ireland choose to ignore who the IRA-Sinn Fein are and what they've done.
Unless you've grown up with it, it's very hard to comprehend what they were capable of all the way up until the end of the 90s.
I may someday vote Fianna Fail, but I will never, ever vote for Sinn Fein.

Valetta · 23-05-2014 12:18PM

What's an "Indefeated Army"?

FTA69 · 23-05-2014 12:20PM

Undefeated Army my arse. My biggest problem with these t-shirts is that they constitute false advertising.

bear1 · 23-05-2014 12:21PM

alfa beta wrote: »

I'm surprised. I'm genuinely surprised. But hey, maybe I'm just naive.

You go to Sinn Fein's website, you click on their online book store and you find these sorta t-shirts for sale.

http://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/ira-undefeated-army/

http://www.sinnfeinbookshop.com/unrepentant-fenian-bastard/

Hey look - I mean people can wear whatever the hell they like as far as I'm concerned. I just thought that a party that was gaining ground all over the country and establishing itself as a genuinely large and legitimate political force on both sides of the border wouldn't be selling merchandise with wording such as 'Unrepentant Fenian Bastard' and 'IRA Undefeated Army' and the like.

I thought with all the talk of inclusiveness and fairness and reconciliation etc. they'd moved on a bit from that. ('Unrepentant Fenian Bastard' as a branding message doesn't really work alongside inclusiveness in my view.)

And don't get me wrong. I'm not anti-Sinn Fein by any stretch. They make good arguments as a party and they appear to offer an interesting left-wing alternative to what's currently in place. But if this is the sorta thing they sell to fund the party, and if this is the sort of message they're happy to convey on their merchandise, then I think it's all a bit...grubby or lowlife something along those lines.

I'm also sure there must be plenty 'new' Sinn Fein supporters out there who must feel a bit uncomfortable with this stuff.

Are other people as surprised as I am that they're selling this through their website? Or is it just me?

This scares the living ****e out of me

Alf. A. Male · 23-05-2014 12:21PM

Valetta wrote: »

What's an "Indefeated Army"?

Me fail English? That's unpossible.

No Pants · 23-05-2014 12:22PM

josip wrote: »

it's very hard to comprehend what they were capable of all the way up until the end of the 90s.

Don't forget what they're still capable of. All the murderers didn't take up crochet back in 1998.

conorhal · 23-05-2014 12:31PM

Because I need something to wear when my Che Guevara T-shirt is in the wash?

josip · 23-05-2014 12:35PM

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

If I was Gerry I'da walked out of the arrest wearing the IRA shirt for a laugh.

After her disappearance, Jean McConville's seven youngest children, including six-year-old twins, survived on their own in the flat, cared for by their 15-year-old sister Helen. After three weeks, the hungry family was visited by a stranger, who gave them Jean's purse—with 52p still inside it—and her three rings.

dd972 · 23-05-2014 12:36PM

I've got the Calvin Harris sunglasses already but do they have a hipster low cut V neck ?

wendell borton · 23-05-2014 12:38PM

RE: Unrepentant fenian bastard
Shut up and take my money!!

arybvtcw0eolkf · 23-05-2014 12:38PM

josip wrote: »

Too many people in Ireland choose to ignore who the IRA-Sinn Fein are and what they've done.
Unless you've grown up with it, it's very hard to comprehend what they were capable of all the way up until the end of the 90s.
I may someday vote Fianna Fail, but I will never, ever vote for Sinn Fein.

Yea, like our country wasn't born out of terror & insurrection anyway.. Don't pretend you know our history then come up with that crap :rolleyes:

Nodin · 23-05-2014 12:40PM

bear1 wrote: »

This scares the living ****e out of me

I'm sure the t-shirts are decommissioned and entirely safe.

Sunglasses Ron · 23-05-2014 12:40PM

josip wrote: »

After her disappearance, Jean McConville's seven youngest children, including six-year-old twins, survived on their own in the flat, cared for by their 15-year-old sister Helen. After three weeks, the hungry family was visited by a stranger, who gave them Jean's purse—with 52p still inside it—and her three rings.

A joke's a joke, I shouldn't have.

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pablomakaveli · 23-05-2014 12:44PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Just stumbled upon that when you were shopping for blue shirts eh.

Someones criticising Sinn Fein so lets accuse them of being a blueshirt.

Ya because thats not a tired overused insult on boards. Especially ridiculous when the OP actually said they admire Sinn Fein.

tayto lover · 23-05-2014 12:45PM

OP you are a few days late with this.
Many people have already voted.

Lenin Skynard · 23-05-2014 12:45PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Someones criticising Sinn Fein so lets accuse them of being a blueshirt.

Ya because thats not a tired overused insult on boards. Especially ridiculous when the OP actually said they admire Sinn Fein.

It was a joke, lighten up.

EuskalHerria · 23-05-2014 12:47PM

Two "Sinn Fein" threads in the busiest part of boards on the day of the elections across the country. I don't think I go into conspiracy theory territory to say it appears as a concerted effort.

I'm not saying the issues in this or the other thread are not valid topics of conversation. However the timing is extraordinary.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-05-2014 12:47PM

When are the "we surrendered" t-shirts going on sale? It's been 15 years and we are still waiting.

pablomakaveli · 23-05-2014 12:48PM

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Two "Sinn Fein" threads in the busiest part of boards on the day of the elections across the country. I don't think I go into conspiracy theory territory to say it appears as a concerted effort.

I'm not saying the issues in this or the other thread are not valid topics of conversation. However the timing is extraordinary.

Its the damn Lizard people in the Fine Gael/DUP New World Order out to get Sinn Fein again.

pablomakaveli · 23-05-2014 12:49PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

It was a joke, lighten up.

A tired boring overused joke at that.

My name is URL · 23-05-2014 12:50PM

It's fcuking stupid that they continue to associate themselves with that shop while it sells such goods. Can't be defended in any logical way whatsoever. And I say that as someone that voted for Matt Carthy earlier :pac:

Seriously though.. it does them no favours at all.

iForgetMyPW wrote: »

It's some online book store you idiot it's not owned by sinn fein

They still shouldn't link to it from their official party website though. I mean, c'mon.

ChicagoJoe · 23-05-2014 12:51PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Undefeated Army my arse. My biggest problem with these t-shirts is that they constitute false advertising.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

When are the "we surrendered" t-shirts going on sale? It's been 15 years and we are still waiting.

Would you rather one with the British govt and unionists saying "Over our dead bodies will we ever talk to Sinn Fein/IRA never mind share power with them"

EuskalHerria · 23-05-2014 12:51PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Its the damn Lizard people in the Fine Gael/DUP New World Order out to get Sinn Fein again.

I was thinking more opposition supporters with an agenda.

However after that Godzilla documentary, I would reccommend monitoring the lizard people.

K-9 · 23-05-2014 12:52PM

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Two "Sinn Fein" threads in the busiest part of boards on the day of the elections across the country. I don't think I go into conspiracy theory territory to say it appears as a concerted effort.

I'm not saying the issues in this or the other thread are not valid topics of conversation. However the timing is extraordinary.

PSNI/Mi5 definitely.

ChicagoJoe · 23-05-2014 12:53PM

Nodin wrote: »

I'm sure the t-shirts are decommissioned and entirely safe.

Like the RUC and union jack at Belfast city hall !!!! Gerry Kelly who bombed Scotland Yard is now the chair of the NI police boar. Tell me, just who are the ones trying to claim they had an outright victory !

pablomakaveli · 23-05-2014 12:56PM

EuskalHerria wrote: »

I was thinking more opposition supporters with an agenda.

However after that Godzilla documentary, I would reccommend monitoring the lizard people.

Lets be honest though Sinn Fein supporters aren't exactly innocent of muck-raking other parties or candidate either.

The infamous tweet before the last presidential election being a good example.

iForgetMyPW · 23-05-2014 12:57PM

alfa beta wrote: »

oh yeah - I see that now

I clicked on the banner on their news page (on the sinnfein.ie site) - it is separate - but it's still branded sinn fein though

no need to call me an idiot

Who cares if it's branded as sinn fein? For example I could make a catholic t-shirt store right now with "We are pedos" shirts lol

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