Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

Happyman42 · 22-05-2014 05:15PM

Beano wrote: »

Has he apologised in any way? No he hasnt. Therefore he is unrepentant.

The IRA have apologised for all innocent deaths.

Beano · 22-05-2014 05:19PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

The IRA have apologised for all innocent deaths.

He has never apologised to any of the victims families. A blanket "jeez, we're awful sorry about all that murdering and stuff" just doesn't cut it. A repentant would apologise himself. In person. The only thing he is sorry about is that he got caught.

Bannasidhe · 22-05-2014 05:21PM

Beano wrote: »

Feel free to start your own thread about the wonders of the cuban health system. It is not relevant here.

I was responding to your mention of Cuba which you up followed with further reference to Cuba in later posts so it's a bit rich you complaining about it now.

I am happy to stop discussing Cuba - are you?

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:21PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Who says he is unrepentant?

Has he ever issued any statement of apology or engaged with any of the families of the two children he murdered to show his remorse??

No - ergo unrepentant.

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:27PM

rosser44 wrote: »

Has he ever issued any statement of apology or engaged with any of the families of the two children he murdered to show his remorse??

No - ergo unrepentant.

The organisation he was in has issued a full apology.
Do we need every soldier to apologise individually after a war? I've never seen it done before in history.

flatty · 22-05-2014 05:33PM

I'm actually the opposite to most here. I'd have considered voting Sinn Fein as they are certainly no worse than the other mobs on govt these days, and I'm happy to look forward, but having that psycho canvassing sticks in my craw. I'd not vote for them now.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:34PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

The organisation he was in has issued a full apology.
Do we need every soldier to apologise individually after a war? I've never seen it done before in history.

So he was a soldier then?? Well I guess he should be up in the Hague for war crimes for directly targeting and murdering civilians.

And yes he should aplogise for murdering children, he has been given multiple chances by the families of the victims and has directly refused.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/mountbatten-bomber-wont-talk-to-father-of-teen-victim-28490794.html

Happyman42 · 22-05-2014 05:35PM

Beano wrote: »

He has never apologised to any of the victims families. A blanket "jeez, we're awful sorry about all that murdering and stuff" just doesn't cut it. A repentant would apologise himself. In person. The only thing he is sorry about is that he got caught.

In a thread of ridiculous hysteria that stands out, I'll give you that.
All soldiers should apologise to their victims... I must propose that at the next UN convention.

Beano · 22-05-2014 05:36PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I was responding to your mention of Cuba which you up followed with further reference to Cuba in later posts so it's a bit rich you complaining about it now.

I am happy to stop discussing Cuba - are you?

i never started discussing it. i was responding to somebody else. I am more than happy to stop discussing irrelevant topics.

Beano · 22-05-2014 05:38PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

In a thread of ridiculous hysteria that stands out, I'll give you that.
All soldiers should apologise to their victims... I must propose that at the next UN convention.

you keep using that word hysteria.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:38PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

All soldiers should apologise to their victims...

Or maybe all soldiers should not knowlingly murder children, hows about that for a crazy thought?

Keep on justifying child murder boss, you're doing a great job.

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:40PM

rosser44 wrote: »

So he was a soldier then?? Well I guess he should be up in the Hague for war crimes for directly targeting and murdering civilians.

As much any as soldier as the US Army, North Viernamese army, Russian army.
I don't think any of those have technically been in a war since 1945.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:44PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

As much as soldier as the US Army, North Viernamese army, Russian army.
I don't think any of those have technically been in a war since 1945.

Less of the trying to move away from the topic, we are not discussing any of the things you mentioned above.

He was not a soldier, he IS a child murderer

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:47PM

rosser44 wrote: »

Less of the trying to move away from the topic, we are not discussing any of the things you mentioned above.

He was not a soldier, he IS a child murderer

You have made no case at all that he wasn't a soldier in a war.
In fact, you found it so preposterous you didn't even attempt to.

wilson10 · 22-05-2014 05:47PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

As much any as soldier as the US Army, North Viernamese army, Russian army.
I don't think any of those have technically been in a war since 1945.

US, Vietnam and Russia are all countries.

Ireland has it's own army too so where does this guy fit in.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:48PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

As much any as soldier as the US Army, North Viernamese army, Russian army.
I don't think any of those have technically been in a war since 1945.

US Army - answerable to the President

N Vietnemese army - Answerable to the President

Russian Army - answerable to the president.

IRA - answerable to ?????????????

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:49PM

http://saraburke.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/cuts-threaten-patient-safety/

This is more important to me than anybody murdered, yes even children. I don't place more value on one human life than another.
If there was a SF with no IRA connections I'd be much happier, but if the choice is some murders 35 years ago or many deaths right now, I've already made my choice.

wilson10 · 22-05-2014 05:50PM

rosser44 wrote: »

US Army - answerable to the President

N Vietnemese army - Answerable to the President

Russian Army - answerable to the president.

IRA - answerable to ?????????????

President of Sinn Fein

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:51PM

rosser44 wrote: »

US Army - answerable to the President

N Vietnemese army - Answerable to the President

Russian Army - answerable to the president.

IRA - answerable to ?????????????

Answerable to the head of the IRA, whoever that might have been.
Your point?

Happyman42 · 22-05-2014 05:51PM

rosser44 wrote: »

Keep on justifying child murder boss, you're doing a great job.

Somebody was questioning my use of the word 'hysteria'. Well there you go ^

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:51PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

http://saraburke.wordpress.com/2014/03/21/cuts-threaten-patient-safety/

This is more important to me than anybody murdered, yes even children. I don't place more value on one human life than another.
If there was a SF with no IRA connections I'd be much happier, but if the choice is some murders 35 years ago or many deaths right now, I've already made my choice.

Ya change ths subject when your argument fails, gonna threaten me with violence when you dont get your way too???

Wonder who that would be like..........:rolleyes:

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:52PM

wilson10 wrote: »

US, Vietnam and Russia are all countries.

Ireland has it's own army too so where does this guy fit in.

Fighting against an occupation. An occupation which was recognised by the Republic not so long ago.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:53PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Somebody was questioning my use of the word 'hysteria'. Well there you go ^

Well do you think that what happened in Sligo was a legitimate operation by the IRA or do you think it was mass murder??

It was either one or the other.

Fratton Fred · 22-05-2014 05:53PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

The IRA have apologised for all innocent deaths.

Who apologised?

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:54PM

rosser44 wrote: »

Ya change ths subject when your argument fails, gonna threaten me with violence when you dont get your way too???

Wonder who that would be like..........:rolleyes:

You appear to be judging me by your own standards. No mention or threat of violence from me at all.

Smidge · 22-05-2014 05:54PM

I've read and followed this thread since this morning.
So this person is canvassing with SF?
But he isn't running, right?
I suggest to everyone who has posted their bandwagon outrage at this to go and find out the history of EVERY single person who has accompanied any candidate on the campaign trail to find out their history.
This man was convicted of a crime and sentenced as such.

I had a local candidate call here a week or so ago canvassing. I won't name which party he was part of but it wasn't Sinn Fein. I didn't know the candidate from adam but I did know one of the men who was with him at my doorstep.
I also knew some of his history and believe me, he is a disgusting human being.
I politely declined to engage in conversation once I saw who was with them and shut the door.

So, is everyone on this thread going to quiz every single individual who accompanies a candidate, about their history???
I didn't think so and fwiw I don't support any party in the upcoming elections.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:54PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Fighting against an occupation. An occupation which was recognised by the Republic not so long ago.

3........

2........

1.......

"collateral damage blah blah...."

This man is a child murderer. And you are justifying his actions.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 05:56PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

You appear to be judging me by your own standards. No mention or threat of violence from me at all.

No you didnt, just extrapulating your future actions based on the actions of those you support

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:58PM

rosser44 wrote: »

No you didnt, just extrapulating your future actions based on the actions of those you support

So which pacifist party with no historic connection to atrocities do you support then? AAA?

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 06:02PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

So which pacifist party with no historic connection to atrocities do you support then? AAA?

As I have stated above I support no political party and certainly do not condone or support murder.

You are gonig to get nowhere by trying to questioning my political affiliations as I have none, better luck next time.

Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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