Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 04:34PM

rosser44 wrote: »

Question for the pro IRA posters in the thread:

And he'll wonder why nobody answers.
Question for David Drumm/Bertie Ahern supporters...

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 04:36PM

rosser44 wrote: »

The man in question who is currently supported by Sinn Fein in his canvassing for said party knowingly murdered two children, YES or No???

Straight answers please, none of this "well the brits did x, y & z" dodging.

Ok I'll address this question directly to you Happyman42.

Can I get a straight yes or no answer??

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 04:36PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

And he'll wonder why nobody answers.
Question for David Drumm/Bertie Ahern supporters...

???

moxin · 22-05-2014 04:36PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Well we could start with child killers if you wish.

Some child killers are more important to you than others.

bumper234 · 22-05-2014 04:38PM

moxin wrote: »

Some child killers are more important to you than others.

Care to elaborate?

Bannasidhe · 22-05-2014 04:38PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Are you crazy? Do you think Cubans have a better standard of living than Irish people? :pac:

Never said they did - but as a matter of interest which 'Irish people' are you referring to?

The ever increasing number of homeless Irish people?

The seriously ill Irish people who don't have health insurance?

The Irish people who bought in developments like Priory Hall?

The Irish people who live in unfinished ghost estates?

The terminally ill Irish people who are losing their medical health cards?

You criticised Cuba's economic policies - I simply commented that I find it amazing that Cuba has managed not to go bust despite over half a century of sanctions - pity Ireland couldn't do that and we didn't even have sanctions imposed on us so it would be good if we had a few Cuban financial advisers around.

moxin · 22-05-2014 04:41PM

bumper234 wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

You're very fond at being selective on condemning child killers.

11 yr old Francis Rowntree who was shot dead by a soldier, where is your concern that the BA has not even acknowledged his murder or there has been no prosecution? (story was in the news yesterday and linked earlier) http://www.u.tv/News/Soldier-could-be-prosecuted-over-boy-death/4ce8f4ea-060f-46d6-9ce4-dba402a51f8f

Donkey Oaty · 22-05-2014 04:42PM

rosser44 wrote: »

Ok I'll address this question directly to you Happyman42.

Can I get a straight yes or no answer??

I don't know Happyman's answer to this, but for some PIRA supporters I have met, these kinds of questions boil down to this answer: "The ends justify the means."

And that's what the debate is about really - whether you agree with that philosophy or not.

sabat · 22-05-2014 04:44PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

The Irish people who bought in developments like Priory Hall?

Probably not a good idea to bring this one up to support your argument but it does go to show what I meant earlier about people with questionable morals being trusted in other areas of life.

Reformed Character · 22-05-2014 04:45PM

moxin wrote: »

You're very fond at being selective on condemning child killers.

11 yr old Francis Rowntree who was shot dead by a soldier, where is your concern that the BA has not even acknowledged his murder or there has been no prosecution? (story was in the news yesterday and linked earlier)

Are the BA out canvassing in our elections, or is this just more whataboutery from SF HQ?

jellyboy · 22-05-2014 04:46PM

Big Nasty wrote: »

Look at their economic policies ffs! No austerity, no water charges, no property tax, etc. Where do they propose the government get the money needed to run the country and pay back our debts?

Also the main reason they're doing well is their badly thought out policies appeal to the red top readers as does their tiofchaidh ar la idealism.

Thick cvnts! :mad:

I have a couch ,some lovely blue flowers and a hug over in the pi forum
if you want to talk about the shinners:D

Chips Lovell · 22-05-2014 04:46PM

I believe that Major Herbert Lammerton Forsyth is running in the Ballyfermott - Drimnagh ward for Dublin City Council.

Happyman42 · 22-05-2014 04:47PM

rosser44 wrote: »

Ok I'll address this question directly to you Happyman42.

Can I get a straight yes or no answer??

Far as I know, he knew the children where there, yes.

Bannasidhe · 22-05-2014 04:47PM

sabat wrote: »

Probably not a good idea to bring this one up to support your argument but it does go to show what I meant earlier about people with questionable morals being trusted in other areas of life.

Let's not bring the failure of various regulators to do their jobs into this or we'll be here all week.

Reformed Character · 22-05-2014 04:49PM

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I believe that Major Herbt Lammerton Forsyth is running in the Ballyfermott - Drimnagh ward for Dublin City Council.

LOL.
Yes indeed and General Sir Mike Jackson is an SDLP candidate in East Surry.

sabat · 22-05-2014 04:49PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Let's not bring the failure of various regulators to do their jobs into this or we'll be here all week.

Yeah it was the regulator who was really responsible for Priory Hall just like it was the police's fault for the bombs going off.

Beano · 22-05-2014 04:51PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Never said they did - but as a matter of interest which 'Irish people' are you referring to?

The ever increasing number of homeless Irish people?

The seriously ill Irish people who don't have health insurance?

The Irish people who bought in developments like Priory Hall?

The Irish people who live in unfinished ghost estates?

The terminally ill Irish people who are losing their medical health cards?

You criticised Cuba's economic policies - I simply commented that I find it amazing that Cuba has managed not to go bust despite over half a century of sanctions - pity Ireland couldn't do that and we didn't even have sanctions imposed on us so it would be good if we had a few Cuban financial advisers around.

I dont know about dying but i would imagine a famine the sign of a pretty poor economy. From 1991 to 1995 if i remember correctly. An economy so that the government have admitted that the old system is a failure and started to introduce a limited form of capitalism to improve the lot of the people. Cuba is not the socialist paradise that some people like to think.

rosser44 · 22-05-2014 04:56PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Far as I know, he knew the children where there, yes.

So it is fair and reasonable to state that this man is an unrepentant child murderer who is supported in his position by Sinn Fein and its leader Gerry Adams??

I'd like to state at this time that I am not a member of any politicial party or organisation and have never voted for a member of any political party for 3 or 4 elections.

If a child murderer or rapist or armed robber was canvassing for any other party in this country there would be outrage from all sides of the politicial sphere.

The GFA was a watershed moment in the history of this country and the vast majotity of former members of illegal armed organisations have showed some form of regret for the suffering they caused. This man has not and should be called out on it imo.

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 04:59PM

Beano wrote: »

I dont know about dying but i would imagine a famine the sign of a pretty poor economy. From 1991 to 1995 if i remember correctly. An economy so that the government have admitted that the old system is a failure and started to introduce a limited form of capitalism to improve the lot of the people. Cuba is not the socialist paradise that some people like to think.

Neither is it anything relevant to SF's economic policies like some people like to pretend.

Bannasidhe · 22-05-2014 05:03PM

Beano wrote: »

I dont know about dying but i would imagine a famine the sign of a pretty poor economy. From 1991 to 1995 if i remember correctly. An economy so that the government have admitted that the old system is a failure and started to introduce a limited form of capitalism to improve the lot of the people. Cuba is not the socialist paradise that some people like to think.

Never said it was.

Said it is amazing Cuba never went completely bust what with over 60 years of U.S. sanctions. Ireland did go bust with nary a hint of a socialist government or a sanction.

Beano · 22-05-2014 05:03PM

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Neither is it anything relevant to SF's economic policies like some people like to pretend.

The only thing relevant on this thread is that a convicted unrepentant child murderer is campaigning on behalf of sinn fein and that sinn fein leaders have no problem with this. Anything else is an attempt to defend the indefensible.

Beano · 22-05-2014 05:04PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Never said it was.

Said it is amazing Cuba never went completely bust what with over 60 years of U.S. sanctions. Ireland did go bust with nary a hint of a socialist government or a sanction.

i think i would prefer what happened to us to a famine.

Bannasidhe · 22-05-2014 05:07PM

Beano wrote: »

i think i would prefer what happened to us to a famine.

I take it you are not homeless or terminally ill or related to anyone who is so.

If I was terminally ill or had a seriously sick child I'd prefer to be in Havana than Dublin.

Happyman42 · 22-05-2014 05:08PM

rosser44 wrote: »

So it is fair and reasonable to state that this man is an unrepentant child murderer

Who says he is unrepentant?

Deco99 · 22-05-2014 05:09PM

Sinn fein = populist policies = poor candidates by and large (they may be more honest than others but policywise clueless) thats grand cause they wont be in power. Ive enough trouble trying to keep s low paid job as is. The day they even hint at getting in power is the day I try beat the q for the boat before the rest have to catch up. It would be interesting to find out what portion of sinn fein candidates did honours maths.

Happyman42 · 22-05-2014 05:10PM

Deco99 wrote: »

Sinn fein = populist policies = poor candidates by and large (they may be more honest than others but policywise clueless) thats grand cause they wont be in power. Ive enough trouble trying to keep s low paid job as is. The day they even hint at getting in power is the day I try beat the q for the boat before the rest have to catch up. It would be interesting to find out what portion of sinn fein candidates did honours maths.

Yawn.

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:11PM

Beano wrote: »

The only thing relevant on this thread is that a convicted unrepentant child murderer is campaigning on behalf of sinn fein and that sinn fein leaders have no problem with this. Anything else is an attempt to defend the indefensible.

I notice you haven't seen fit to whine at any SF basher who wants to talk economics... how curious is that?

Beano · 22-05-2014 05:13PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

Who says he is unrepentant?

Has he apologised in any way? No he hasnt. Therefore he is unrepentant.

Dan_Solo · 22-05-2014 05:14PM

Deco99 wrote: »

Sinn fein = populist policies = poor candidates by and large

They're up against some other right stinkers though. They all seem to be grandson of TD so and so and the best they can come out with is "I'm the youngest candidate on the card".
Depressing selection all round.

Beano · 22-05-2014 05:14PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

I take it you are not homeless or terminally ill or related to anyone who is so.

If I was terminally ill or had a seriously sick child I'd prefer to be in Havana than Dublin.

Feel free to start your own thread about the wonders of the cuban health system. It is not relevant here.

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