Man faces 120 years in Natasha McShane baseball beating

Rented Mule · 22-05-2014 02:41PM #1

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-man-faces-120-years-in-bucktown-baseball-beating-20140522,0,2015848.story

Man faces 120 years in Bucktown baseball beating

Four years after a reputed gang member used a baseball bat to beat their daughter so badly she can no longer speak or walk unassisted, the family of Natasha McShane has traveled from their home in Northern Ireland to watch her attacker be sentenced today.

Heriberto Viramontes faces up to 120 years in prison for the brutal beatings and robbery of McShane, an exchange student, and her close friend Stacy Jurich under a Bucktown viaduct as they walked home from a bar in 2010.

Very much looking forward to the sentencing today. The prosecuting attorney Peg Ogarek has done an outstanding job in this case. Here's hoping this POS never sees the light of day again.

Hotale.com · 22-05-2014 02:44PM

You shouldn't be looking forward to it.

He deserves everything he'll get but that was a brutal attack which ruined the lives of the victim and her family. It's not meant to be entertaining or satisfying.

Mr. Incognito · 22-05-2014 03:01PM

Hope it brings the families a sense of justice.

Won't turn back the clock though.

The older I get the more in favour of capital punishment I become.

More humane and cheaper to put some of these people down.

Hotale.com · 22-05-2014 03:04PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Hope it brings the families a sense of justice.

Won't turn back the clock though.

The older I get the more in favour of capital punishment I become.

More humane and cheaper to put some of these people down.

It's not cheaper, the legal fees go up a ridiculous amount when you bring in capital punishment and appeals are far more likely to happen and are more frequent.

What happens if an innocent person gets convicted and killed? That's my main issue with capital punishment.

Mr. Incognito · 22-05-2014 03:07PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

It's not cheaper, the legal fees go up a ridiculous amount when you bring in capital punishment and appeals are far more likely to happen and are more frequent.

What happens if an innocent person gets convicted and killed? That's my main issue with capital punishment.

No system is perfect, and I'm not sure if it's a deterrent but there is no doubt people are becoming more callous and violent. Ten years ago I would have agreed with you. One innocent death is too many, but some people are broken and have no hope of rehabilitation. We are too lenient as a society.

Hotale.com · 22-05-2014 03:12PM

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

No system is perfect, and I'm not sure if it's a deterrent but there is no doubt people are becoming more callous and violent. Ten years ago I would have agreed with you. One innocent death is too many, but some people are broken and have no hope of rehabilitation. We are too lenient as a society.

I can see your point but I just don't think I'll ever agree with it, so there's no real point arguing.

Mr. Incognito · 22-05-2014 03:17PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

I can see your point but I just don't think I'll ever agree with it, so there's no real point arguing.

Fair enough. There is no right or wrong anyway. I don't think systematic state killing is ever a good idea but we need to invest in prisons and rehabilitation or else deal with the overcrowding and inhumane treatment. Prisons are just crime universities right now

bear1 · 22-05-2014 03:22PM

The term "an eye for an eye" seems just in this case.
Bash him over the head with a bat until he is in the same state.
I wonder if found guilty here how long could he get.

Hotale.com · 22-05-2014 03:26PM

I'm going to unfollow this because some attitudes (^^^^^^^^) here are quite disturbing.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 22-05-2014 03:31PM

A clear case for an eye for eye justice. He deserves to be beaten with a baseball bat till he can no longer speak or walk and if he happened to die from the beating then so be it.

Rented Mule · 22-05-2014 03:50PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

You shouldn't be looking forward to it.

He deserves everything he'll get but that was a brutal attack which ruined the lives of the victim and her family. It's not meant to be entertaining or satisfying.

Get off of your high horse. One more piece of filth is being removed from society. I am overjoyed. The prosecuting attorney, Peg Ogarek is the sister of a good friend of mine. I will probably send her flowers after the sentencing.

This is not a capital offense. The State of Illinois does not have the death penalty. Not that there is any doubt of his guilt. His girlfriend rolled over on him after they were arrested and plea bargained as fast as she could.

Just for the record, there was more than one 'victim' in this case. The other victim in this case, Stacy Jurich is the cousin of another good friend of mine from work.

I have walked through that viaduct where the attack took place with my wife on multiple occasions. The thought of what happened to these women at the hands of this coward makes my blood boil.

The world will be a slightly brighter place when the judge sentences him later today.

bear1 · 22-05-2014 03:53PM

Rented Mule wrote: »

Get off of your high horse. One more piece of filth is being removed from society. I am overjoyed. The prosecuting attorney, Peg Ogarek is the sister of a good friend of mine. I will probably send her flowers after the sentencing.

This is not a capital offense. The State of Illinois does not have the death penalty. Not that there is any doubt of his guilt. His girlfriend rolled over on him after they were arrested and plea bargained as fast as she could.

Just for the record, there was more than one 'victim' in this case. The other victim in this case, Stacy Jurich is the cousin of another good friend of mine from work.

I have walked through that viaduct where the attack took place with my wife on multiple occasions. The thought of what happened to these women at the hands of this coward makes my blood boil.

The world will be a slightly brighter place when the judge sentences him later today.

Sorry to hear that, it sounds like you've been affected by this story as well.
And I agree completely with what you have said.
If the prosecuter does well, give her a thanks from me

JC01 · 22-05-2014 03:56PM

Thank god there's a little justice in the fact that this animal will spend the rest of his life in a proper prison.

Over here he would serve 10 years MAX in a holiday camp and god knows with remission, suspended sentence etc hed most likely only serve ~3.

My heart goes out to the poor woman who's life was forever damaged by that excuse for a human being.

America gets a lot wrong and I'm far from a fan of the old US of A but sentencing criminals is one thing they get right. I can only hope he gets 'prison loved' to death.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 22-05-2014 04:20PM

Rented Mule wrote: »

The other victim in this case, Stacy Jurich is the cousin of another good friend of mine from work.

Just watched the following, rather harrowing, interview with her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UKwPkXqXtw

Reformed Character · 22-05-2014 05:01PM

The guy should never be released.

Funkfield · 22-05-2014 05:03PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

I'm going to unfollow this because some attitudes (^^^^^^^^) here are quite disturbing.

:rolleyes:

Precious flower · 22-05-2014 05:45PM

God that attack on those girls was horrific! Jesus, how can anyone do that to another person!? He just saw them and decided he'd beat them to a pulp and rob them. What a sick man, he truly deserves his sentence.:mad:

Mongfinder General · 22-05-2014 05:59PM

Precious flower wrote: »

God that attack on those girls was horrific! Jesus, how can anyone do that to another person!? He just saw them and decided he'd beat them to a pulp and rob them. What a sick man, he truly deserves his sentence.:mad:

Nothing but a vicious animal. Hope he gets a long beating and slow death in prison. His accomplice deserves the same treatment.

EyeSight · 22-05-2014 06:24PM

He'd probably get 5 with 3 years suspended here

woodoo · 22-05-2014 08:45PM

EyeSight wrote: »

He'd probably get 5 with 3 years suspended here

Yeah and reduced on appeal.

crockholm · 22-05-2014 08:56PM

IIRC at the time of the trial (according to the Chi Trib) the judge didn't allow a video diary of ms. McShanes Daily Life being shown because it would have been prejudicial.That was weird.Think the girlfriend rolled on him in Exchange for a 20 year stretch.

All for a few dollars and the rush of robbing some "White ho's"

Wishing the McShane and Jurich families all the best.

Shakespeare's Sister · 22-05-2014 09:26PM

Good to see justice done. Dreadful case.
It's sad he had a hard life, and that probably contributed to how he turned out, but it's zero excuse, particularly when most people who had a life like his don't resort to such measures.

No Pants · 22-05-2014 09:29PM

Misleading thread title OP; he didn't beat her with a baseball.

crockholm · 22-05-2014 10:57PM

He only got a measly 90 years,he'll be a spritely 120 something years when he gets out

wicklowstevo · 22-05-2014 11:18PM

makes some difference from irish justice doesnt it ?
ruin some ones life they takes yours from you in america
in ireland ruin someones life you get at most a couple of years to learn new criminal skills

Call Me Jimmy · 22-05-2014 11:24PM

Hotale.com wrote: »

I can see your point but I just don't think I'll ever agree with it, so there's no real point arguing.

Woah woah woah wait...

theres... no. point... arguing.

THERE'S NO POINT ARGUING

:eek:

I'm free!!!!!!! Tomorrow I wander the meadows, smell the flowers, hear the birds again!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Stheno · 22-05-2014 11:30PM

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Just watched the following, rather harrowing, interview with her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UKwPkXqXtw

That was hard to watch.

I hope she feels she got justice today

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 23-05-2014 01:49AM

Stheno wrote: »

I hope she feels she got justice today

Here's a very brief statement from Stacy and also Natasha's mother:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_dmAkaXI9g

Kermit.de.frog · 23-05-2014 10:02AM

And here is Irish justice at work

Mum at centre of the 'worst case of child neglect' walks free from court

:rolleyes:

bear1 · 23-05-2014 10:04AM

I read that story about the mother, another story which just shows our fantastic justice system at work

Kermit.de.frog · 23-05-2014 10:13AM

The judges are completely out of touch with reality. That and we need Thornton Hall to be built.

Man faces 120 years in Natasha McShane baseball beating

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