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Man faces 120 years in Natasha McShane baseball beating

  • 22-05-2014 02:41PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭


    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-man-faces-120-years-in-bucktown-baseball-beating-20140522,0,2015848.story

    Man faces 120 years in Bucktown baseball beating

    Four years after a reputed gang member used a baseball bat to beat their daughter so badly she can no longer speak or walk unassisted, the family of Natasha McShane has traveled from their home in Northern Ireland to watch her attacker be sentenced today.

    Heriberto Viramontes faces up to 120 years in prison for the brutal beatings and robbery of McShane, an exchange student, and her close friend Stacy Jurich under a Bucktown viaduct as they walked home from a bar in 2010.


    Very much looking forward to the sentencing today. The prosecuting attorney Peg Ogarek has done an outstanding job in this case. Here's hoping this POS never sees the light of day again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    You shouldn't be looking forward to it.

    He deserves everything he'll get but that was a brutal attack which ruined the lives of the victim and her family. It's not meant to be entertaining or satisfying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Hope it brings the families a sense of justice.

    Won't turn back the clock though.

    The older I get the more in favour of capital punishment I become.

    More humane and cheaper to put some of these people down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    Hope it brings the families a sense of justice.

    Won't turn back the clock though.

    The older I get the more in favour of capital punishment I become.

    More humane and cheaper to put some of these people down.

    It's not cheaper, the legal fees go up a ridiculous amount when you bring in capital punishment and appeals are far more likely to happen and are more frequent.

    What happens if an innocent person gets convicted and killed? That's my main issue with capital punishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    It's not cheaper, the legal fees go up a ridiculous amount when you bring in capital punishment and appeals are far more likely to happen and are more frequent.

    What happens if an innocent person gets convicted and killed? That's my main issue with capital punishment.

    No system is perfect, and I'm not sure if it's a deterrent but there is no doubt people are becoming more callous and violent. Ten years ago I would have agreed with you. One innocent death is too many, but some people are broken and have no hope of rehabilitation. We are too lenient as a society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    No system is perfect, and I'm not sure if it's a deterrent but there is no doubt people are becoming more callous and violent. Ten years ago I would have agreed with you. One innocent death is too many, but some people are broken and have no hope of rehabilitation. We are too lenient as a society.

    I can see your point but I just don't think I'll ever agree with it, so there's no real point arguing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    I can see your point but I just don't think I'll ever agree with it, so there's no real point arguing.

    Fair enough. There is no right or wrong anyway. I don't think systematic state killing is ever a good idea but we need to invest in prisons and rehabilitation or else deal with the overcrowding and inhumane treatment. Prisons are just crime universities right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    The term "an eye for an eye" seems just in this case.
    Bash him over the head with a bat until he is in the same state.
    I wonder if found guilty here how long could he get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    I'm going to unfollow this because some attitudes (^^^^^^^^) here are quite disturbing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    A clear case for an eye for eye justice. He deserves to be beaten with a baseball bat till he can no longer speak or walk and if he happened to die from the beating then so be it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    You shouldn't be looking forward to it.

    He deserves everything he'll get but that was a brutal attack which ruined the lives of the victim and her family. It's not meant to be entertaining or satisfying.

    Get off of your high horse. One more piece of filth is being removed from society. I am overjoyed. The prosecuting attorney, Peg Ogarek is the sister of a good friend of mine. I will probably send her flowers after the sentencing.

    This is not a capital offense. The State of Illinois does not have the death penalty. Not that there is any doubt of his guilt. His girlfriend rolled over on him after they were arrested and plea bargained as fast as she could.

    Just for the record, there was more than one 'victim' in this case. The other victim in this case, Stacy Jurich is the cousin of another good friend of mine from work.

    I have walked through that viaduct where the attack took place with my wife on multiple occasions. The thought of what happened to these women at the hands of this coward makes my blood boil.

    The world will be a slightly brighter place when the judge sentences him later today.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Get off of your high horse. One more piece of filth is being removed from society. I am overjoyed. The prosecuting attorney, Peg Ogarek is the sister of a good friend of mine. I will probably send her flowers after the sentencing.

    This is not a capital offense. The State of Illinois does not have the death penalty. Not that there is any doubt of his guilt. His girlfriend rolled over on him after they were arrested and plea bargained as fast as she could.

    Just for the record, there was more than one 'victim' in this case. The other victim in this case, Stacy Jurich is the cousin of another good friend of mine from work.

    I have walked through that viaduct where the attack took place with my wife on multiple occasions. The thought of what happened to these women at the hands of this coward makes my blood boil.

    The world will be a slightly brighter place when the judge sentences him later today.

    Sorry to hear that, it sounds like you've been affected by this story as well.
    And I agree completely with what you have said.
    If the prosecuter does well, give her a thanks from me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 592 ✭✭✭JC01


    Thank god there's a little justice in the fact that this animal will spend the rest of his life in a proper prison.

    Over here he would serve 10 years MAX in a holiday camp and god knows with remission, suspended sentence etc hed most likely only serve ~3.

    My heart goes out to the poor woman who's life was forever damaged by that excuse for a human being.

    America gets a lot wrong and I'm far from a fan of the old US of A but sentencing criminals is one thing they get right. I can only hope he gets 'prison loved' to death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    The other victim in this case, Stacy Jurich is the cousin of another good friend of mine from work.

    Just watched the following, rather harrowing, interview with her:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    The guy should never be released.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Funkfield


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    I'm going to unfollow this because some attitudes (^^^^^^^^) here are quite disturbing.

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭Precious flower


    God that attack on those girls was horrific! Jesus, how can anyone do that to another person!? He just saw them and decided he'd beat them to a pulp and rob them. What a sick man, he truly deserves his sentence.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    God that attack on those girls was horrific! Jesus, how can anyone do that to another person!? He just saw them and decided he'd beat them to a pulp and rob them. What a sick man, he truly deserves his sentence.:mad:

    Nothing but a vicious animal. Hope he gets a long beating and slow death in prison. His accomplice deserves the same treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    He'd probably get 5 with 3 years suspended here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    EyeSight wrote: »
    He'd probably get 5 with 3 years suspended here

    Yeah and reduced on appeal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    IIRC at the time of the trial (according to the Chi Trib) the judge didn't allow a video diary of ms. McShanes Daily Life being shown because it would have been prejudicial.That was weird.Think the girlfriend rolled on him in Exchange for a 20 year stretch.

    All for a few dollars and the rush of robbing some "White ho's"

    Wishing the McShane and Jurich families all the best.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Good to see justice done. Dreadful case.
    It's sad he had a hard life, and that probably contributed to how he turned out, but it's zero excuse, particularly when most people who had a life like his don't resort to such measures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    Misleading thread title OP; he didn't beat her with a baseball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    He only got a measly 90 years,he'll be a spritely 120 something years when he gets out


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    makes some difference from irish justice doesnt it ?
    ruin some ones life they takes yours from you in america
    in ireland ruin someones life you get at most a couple of years to learn new criminal skills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Hotale.com wrote: »
    I can see your point but I just don't think I'll ever agree with it, so there's no real point arguing.

    Woah woah woah wait...


    theres... no. point... arguing.

    THERE'S NO POINT ARGUING

    :eek:


    I'm free!!!!!!! Tomorrow I wander the meadows, smell the flowers, hear the birds again!

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Just watched the following, rather harrowing, interview with her:


    That was hard to watch.

    I hope she feels she got justice today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    Stheno wrote: »
    I hope she feels she got justice today

    Here's a very brief statement from Stacy and also Natasha's mother:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,371 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I read that story about the mother, another story which just shows our fantastic justice system at work


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,371 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The judges are completely out of touch with reality. That and we need Thornton Hall to be built.


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