''Shocking'' racist message on n7

kunst nugget · 22-05-2014 02:45PM

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Well they say you never see foreign person or person of different ethnicity on the streets of Dublin homeless!

Well they said it on the Adrian Kennedy show
anyways...

Shure they have asylum seekers living in holiday camps no less. Holiday camps if you please. And they give them pocket money if you don't mind.

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:45PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

So what you're saying is that as long as you're alive there'll be someone who doesn't like foreigners? Bully for you.

What im saying is for as long as any of us are alive and well on this planet there will be people who dont want to mix with each other for many different reasons it will come from all sides. This aint me vs the foreigners its everyone vs everyone.

Knasher · 22-05-2014 02:47PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Most of them wont even look at you i can think of many times one example one night me and few mates where in a pub it wasn't even busy and we had very little to drink there was a Chinese fella cleaning up outside in beer garden so i said to him hows things busy night? He looked right threw me and continued. He blanked the rest of us as well. Now you might think he was just ignorant we get that with Irish to but no it wasn't an isolated incident.

The reason why your racist is because you are generalizing from (very very very slightly) bad experiences with individuals, up to entire races of people. Have you seriously lived in this country your entire life, and never been treated in a way you felt rude by an Irish person? Of course you have, yet when it happened you didn't start making wild assumptions about every Irish person you met, you simply assumed that person was an ass and went on with your life. But when a Chinese person did it, you decided it reflected on all Chinese people, it fit the racist narrative in your head and was noteworthy because of it.

The urge to generalize about people is understandable, it's human nature. Someone with identifiable trait X did something bad to me, so to avoid bad things in future, I'll avoid people with X. You can substitute any trait you like for X, accent, skin colour, hair colour, gender, hair styles, fashion sense, etc. I guarantee you can think of examples of generalizations based off any of these. Most people however recognise that these generalizations are unfair to anyone else who might exhibit that triat, and do their best to abandon them, the reason you are racist, is because instead you are doing your best to justify them.

But mostly your "bad experiences" are just so laughably tame.

Nodin · 22-05-2014 02:49PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

Shure they have asylum seekers living in holiday camps no less. Holiday camps if you please. And they give them pocket money if you don't mind.

...sittin there round barbeques everynight, laughin at us.

endacl · 22-05-2014 02:49PM

dickface wrote: »

Immigration needs to be managed better than it has been for the last 10-15 years.
That's all i really have to say.

We should all aim to improve everything, at all times.
That's all I really have to say.

allibastor · 22-05-2014 02:52PM

To be fair, I was in Tesco the other day and the till operator was in full conversation to the till beisde her in Polish. Didnt so much as speak to me and ignored my request for a bag twice. I did feel at bit of a stranger there.

endacl · 22-05-2014 02:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

And English-speaking. It's tough going for us.

Sorry. English 'typing'. Poster has not indicated what language they speak.

Stop with the aul' oppressin' now, m'kay?

:pac:

Bloe Joggs · 22-05-2014 02:55PM

FTA69 wrote: »

What philosophy? Vague left wing policies, a generally progressive outlook and moderate nationalism?

Go on away ya wind up merchant. I'm thinking you wouldn't know much about that movement if the Beard himself kicked you up the arse.

No winding up here, I've always seen right through Sinn Fein. Grizzly himself probably has some leftish tendencies but many of their core voters don't and they very carefully navigate those waters for that reason, always straddling the fence. For years, especially in the Dublin area they were playing voter tennis with Fianna Fail as huge clumps of the electorate would drift between them from election to election on the basis of who the real "republican party" was, while genuine socialist Independent candidates of the Noel Browne type with well thought out policies and action plans were often left by the wayside. They've modernised and expanded their outlook to a degree since they realise they can no longer succeed solely on the cultural nationalist ticket but they're far from the animal many claim them to be, in my opinion.

Having said all that. I think they are going to do very well in the elections.

AnonoBoy · 22-05-2014 02:56PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Yes i have an incredibly unhappy life. I have a long term girlfriend a son i live with them i have plenty of friends and interests and theres not much i want for....

Why waste so much energy hating "DA IMMIGRANTS" then?

I always think there's got to be something missing in someone that they have to spend some much time just hating people they don't even know for reasons that they can't even articulate.

22-05-2014 02:58PM

allibastor wrote: »

To be fair, I was in Tesco the other day and the till operator was in full conversation to the till beisde her in Polish. Didnt so much as speak to me and ignored my request for a bag twice. I did feel at bit of a stranger there.

I get ignored by women on nights out, it doesn't make me feel like a stranger.

endacl · 22-05-2014 02:58PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Why waste so much energy hating "DA IMMIGRANTS" then?

I always think there's got to be something missing in someone that they have to spend some much time just hating people they don't even know for reasons that they can't even articulate.

Coming over here. Taking our happy...

:mad:

AnonoBoy · 22-05-2014 02:59PM

dickface wrote: »

Immigration needs to be managed better than it has been for the last 10-15 years.
That's all i really have to say.

I'd agree with that. More thorough checking of criminal records wouldn't go astray.

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

This aint me vs the foreigners its everyone vs everyone.

You don't speak for everyone dude.

allibastor wrote: »

To be fair, I was in Tesco the other day and the till operator was in full conversation to the till beisde her in Polish. Didnt so much as speak to me and ignored my request for a bag twice. I did feel at bit of a stranger there.

If she'd ignored you while speaking English would it have been a better ignoring?

kunst nugget · 22-05-2014 02:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I get ignored by women on nights out, it doesn't make me feel like a stranger.

They were obviously feminists…

Nodin · 22-05-2014 03:00PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Why waste so much energy hating "DA IMMIGRANTS" then?

I always think there's got to be something missing in someone that they have to spend some much time just hating people they don't even know for reasons that they can't even articulate.

But they're DIFFERENT. D.I.F.F.E.R.E.N.T. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kunst nugget · 22-05-2014 03:02PM

I went to the checkout in my local Tesco and I didn't know the girl at the till and she didn't know me. I felt like a total stranger…

Grandeeod · 22-05-2014 03:03PM

upyores wrote: »

Tourism figures continue rise, which gives lie to your intolerant rant.

I never mentioned figures. I'm referring to a problem that does exist and is not being debated within the industry. But of course I'm ranting and just a bigoted racist. That suits you more.

endacl · 22-05-2014 03:03PM

Nodin wrote: »

But they're DIFFERENT. D.I.F.F.E.R.E.N.T. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And they took our HAPPY. H.A.P.P.Y.

:mad::(:mad::(

:P

endacl · 22-05-2014 03:04PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

I went to the checkout in my local Tesco and I didn't know the girl at the till and she didn't know me. I felt like a total stranger…

:eek:
Cup of tea on the way! Hold tight. Deep breaths.

WillyFXP · 22-05-2014 03:05PM

Oink wrote: »

I am more interested in the symbol at the end of it.
Looks like a politically-correct'ed Swastika to me. When you link that you the anti-Israel slogan and the "us poor Irish are hard done by in our own country"....

First thing I thought of when seeing it was the google symbol

kunst nugget · 22-05-2014 03:05PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

I never mentioned figures. I'm referring to a problem that does exist and is not being debated within the industry. But of course I'm ranting and just a bigoted racist. That suits you more.

You never mentioned figures because they don't back up what you said. You said the tourism industry is in crisis. Tourism figures say otherwise. So the rest of your argument kind of falls flat.

bodice ripper · 22-05-2014 03:05PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Ya because every single one of them ive talked to or tried to......

Stupid ****ing point to come out with.

They are human and they need to be loved....?

Ash.J.Williams · 22-05-2014 03:06PM

i can go weeks without encountering irish culture here....thank f**

endacl · 22-05-2014 03:07PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

They are human and they want to be loved....?

:cool:

Nodin · 22-05-2014 03:09PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

I went to the checkout in my local Tesco and I didn't know the girl at the till and she didn't know me. I felt like a total stranger…

Did u cry because your culture is dead? I cry every time.

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 03:11PM

Knasher wrote: »

The reason why your racist is because you are generalizing from (very very very slightly) bad experiences with individuals, up to entire races of people. Have you seriously lived in this country your entire life, and never been treated in a way you felt rude by an Irish person? Of course you have, yet when it happened you didn't start making wild assumptions about every Irish person you met, you simply assumed that person was an ass and went on with your life. But when a Chinese person did it, you decided it reflected on all Chinese people, it fit the racist narrative in your head and was noteworthy because of it.

The urge to generalize about people is understandable, it's human nature. Someone with identifiable trait X did something bad to me, so to avoid bad things in future, I'll avoid people with X. You can substitute any trait you like for X, accent, skin colour, hair colour, gender, hair styles, fashion sense, etc. I guarantee you can think of examples of generalizations based off any of these. Most people however recognise that these generalizations are unfair to anyone else who might exhibit that triat, and do their best to abandon them, the reason you are racist, is because instead you are doing your best to justify them.

But mostly your "bad experiences" are just so laughably tame.

Laughably tame lol ok so you seem to know me better then i know myself in fact thats how it appears with most you now.

I always find it amazing how people can just assume they know what a person is saying or trying to say.

I am going by what i have experienced of people and what i know about them im not stupid enough to say all people from a certain place are the same but a very big number of them are enough for me to have a dislike or hate for that part of them and thats enough for me to say well ill enjoy you from a far.

Lets just say the Africans coming over to this country has done nothing for this country if they didnt come from such a backwards **** hole they wouldn't be here.

Do you think if the likes of China Japan or even Indian for example werent so over populated and unable to care or look after there own they would be living over here with us ?

See none of them are here to enjoy irish life embrace it and become our friends there here to better them selves and get what they can get from this country your fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

The only ones that stand any chance of blending in a bit are the ones that are born here but even mostly in there case they all grow up in **** areas so they become part of that problem then.

Look i am going round and round in circles here i say one thing you s come back at me with the same crap whats the point ?

All i know is no matter what happens right here in this thread it changes nothing the world stays the same we all just live with it.

Lyaiera · 22-05-2014 03:12PM

Nodin wrote: »

Did u cry because your culture is dead? I cry every time.

I went to the check out at Tesco and was told, "Unexpected item in the bagging area." What have we become?!?

kunst nugget · 22-05-2014 03:14PM

Nodin wrote: »

Did u cry because your culture is dead? I cry every time.

Ill tell ya I dont have to except it weather you tell me too or not.

AnonoBoy · 22-05-2014 03:15PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

I never mentioned figures. I'm referring to a problem that does exist and is not being debated within the industry.

What's the problem? How is it manifesting itself?

If tourists were so unhappy with Ireland as a destination then how come numbers are rising?

endacl · 22-05-2014 03:16PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Laughably tame lol ok so you seem to know me better then i know myself in fact thats how it appears with most you now.

I always find it amazing how people can just assume they know what a person is saying or trying to say.

I am going by what i have experienced of people and what i know about them im not stupid enough to say all people from a certain place are the same but a very big number of them are enough for me to have a dislike or hate for that part of them and thats enough for me to say well ill enjoy you from a far.

Lets just say the Irish coming over to this country has done nothing for this country if they didnt come from such a backwards **** hole they wouldn't be here.

Do you think if the likes of Ireland for example werent so over populated and unable to care or look after there own they would be living over here with us ?

See none of them are here to enjoy English/American life embrace it and become our friends there here to better them selves and get what they can get from this country your fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

The only ones that stand any chance of blending in a bit are the ones that are born here but even mostly in there case they all grow up in **** areas so they become part of that problem then.

Look i am going round and round in circles here i say one thing you s come back at me with the same crap whats the point ?

All i know is no matter what happens right here in this thread it changes nothing the world stays the same we all just live with it.

Can't remember where I quoted that from. Letters page in the Daily Mail c.1950? New York Post from 1886?

Can anybody pin the reference down properly? For accuracy, like.

AnonoBoy · 22-05-2014 03:17PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

I went to the check out at Tesco and was told, "Unexpected item in the bagging area." What have we become?!?

Foreign Robots Joe! Coming over here Joe! Not expecting items in the bagging area Joe!

''Shocking'' racist message on n7

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