''Shocking'' racist message on n7

Reformed Character · 22-05-2014 01:54PM

Grandeeod wrote: »

Do you start to spew accusations before actually reading what was said? What I said is not full of hate, nor would I consider myself a nationalist. I am speaking in relation to the tourism sector in Ireland and if you do not think there is a problem with the product due to the large numbers of foreign workers within it, then you are away with the fairies.

As far back as 1998, it was identified and reffered to by the then Minister for Tourism, Dr. Jim McDaid, at the Irish tourist industry confederation dinner.

That same year a German tour operator featured in the Irish Times and complained about the service in Irish 3 star hotels and said its customers would not mind paying more if they could have a higher degree of service and that all important contact with Irish owners and staff.

This is widely spoken about in the industry and to my knowledge no formal study has been done to assess the impact, despite loads talking about it. Why? The racism card. The ITIC Chairwomen claimed in 2000 that it didn't matter. Tourists would rather be served by a person with broken english than a grumpy Irish one. Nobody wants to be served by anyone grumpy, but the assertion that it doesn't need to be an Irish person flies in the face of what industry workers are hearing from tour operators etc. The fear of being branded a racist for wanting to discuss it or commission studies, is overwhelming. From my time in Italy, I witnessed their policy of limiting the number of foreign workers in their tourism sector, in order to protect its unique product.

In conclusion, I couldn't give a rats arse how many foreign nationals work in the Irish tourism industry, but as approx. 32 percent of employees in the industry are foreign nationals, maybe its time to change the marketing strategy.

Tourism figures continue rise, which gives lie to your intolerant rant.

Nodin · 22-05-2014 01:56PM

Bloe Joggs wrote: »

Shinners never like hearing this stuff, because it's a sore point, the realisation that the party they hold dear isn't really all they thought it was. It's a simple fix, just find a party or independent candidate that actually mirrors your values and vote for them instead.

I've been voting for them for the last 26 years at every given opportunity. I'm about as likely to stop doing so because of you as I am drinking water due to the woman on VB last night.

FTA69 · 22-05-2014 02:08PM

Funnily enough I was an active Republican for a decade, five years spent in the Provisional Movement. I think I'll rely on my own considerable experience rather than your wind-up musings.

And I'm not a f*cking shinner.

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:10PM

Right so where to i start....

See heres the thing i know what i am already none of you need to tell me. Im happy with who i am and wont change because ive no reason to.

You s all think your high and mighty right here right now calling me out on how racist etc i am :pac:

Thats how it always works in these situations guess what ? The fact that im not the only one that feels the way i do makes me very very happy.

Do you think i woke up one morning i decided right i dont like African people i think the Chinese are all mostly ignorant bastards who are only interested in themselves ?

No its all based on day one and onwards for me what ive witnessed my whole life what ive experienced where i have been in the world and who i have spoken to and seen.

I go shopping i have loud obnoxious over sized African women with kids hanging out of them all shouting looking for what they think is theres all the time. I dunno how many fecking times ive been somewhere and whos the one u can hear shouting ''I want this'' ''This should of been cheaper'' ''Your being racist''etc etc etc.

Have you ever been in your local social welfare office ? apart from our own filth who are always the ones taking up spaces in line causing hassle shouting and claiming what they feel there entitled to?

I could keep going on and on and on about things i see every day of the week here.

Do you want me to start on the Chinese ? Do you know how many of them ive worked with in the past ? A lot. Do you know how many ive tried to be friendly with talk to and interact with on daily random occurrences ? A lot.

They have no interest in mixing with most people outside of there culture and country they stick to there own ways and thats it. There the nicest people in the world when your handing them your money.

Most of them wont even look at you i can think of many times one example one night me and few mates where in a pub it wasn't even busy and we had very little to drink there was a Chinese fella cleaning up outside in beer garden so i said to him hows things busy night? He looked right threw me and continued. He blanked the rest of us as well. Now you might think he was just ignorant we get that with Irish to but no it wasn't an isolated incident.

Ive already went past the stage of any of you giving a **** i could keep typing here ive loads of examples but whats the point your on your ''Good side'' im on mine. I have my reasons for why i dont want Irish culture mixing into certain other ones and i hope it never fully happens.

Nodin · 22-05-2014 02:14PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

...........

I go shopping i have loud obnoxious over sized African women with kids hanging out of them all shouting looking for what they think is theres all the time. I dunno how many fecking times ive been somewhere and whos the one u can hear shouting ''I want this'' ''This should of been cheaper'' ''Your being racist''etc etc etc..

I'd say none.

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

...........
Have you ever been in your local social welfare office ? apart from our own filth who are always the ones taking up spaces in line causing hassle shouting and claiming what they feel there entitled to?.

.....yep. Angry people?

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

...........
I could keep going on and on and on about things i see every day of the week here.
.

Yeah.....I'd say we'd get to free prams and cars soon enough.

AnonoBoy · 22-05-2014 02:15PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I have my reasons for why i dont want Irish culture mixing into certain other ones and i hope it never fully happens.

Have you ever thought that maybe it's just that these people don't want to mix with you?

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:16PM

Nodin wrote: »

I'd say none.

.....yep. Angry people?

Yeah.....I'd say we'd get to free prams and cars soon enough.

You know very ****ing well everything ive said you have seen it yourself at one point you just see it differently to how i do or your not gonna entertain or agree with a word ive said. Thats grand if your happy im delighted for u.

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:17PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Have you ever thought that maybe it's just that these people just don't want to mix with you?

Ya because every single one of them ive talked to or tried to......

Stupid ****ing point to come out with.

FTA69 · 22-05-2014 02:19PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Right so where to i start....

See heres the thing i know what i am already none of you need to tell me. Im happy with who i am and wont change because ive no reason to.

You s all think your high and mighty right here right now calling me out on how racist etc i am :pac:

Thats how it always works in these situations guess what ? The fact that im not the only one that feels the way i do makes me very very happy.

Do you think i woke up one morning i decided right i dont like African people i think the Chinese are all mostly ignorant bastards who are only interested in themselves ?

No its all based on day one and onwards for me what ive witnessed my whole life what ive experienced where i have been in the world and who i have spoken to and seen.

I go shopping i have loud obnoxious over sized African women with kids hanging out of them all shouting looking for what they think is theres all the time. I dunno how many fecking times ive been somewhere and whos the one u can hear shouting ''I want this'' ''This should of been cheaper'' ''Your being racist''etc etc etc.

Have you ever been in your local social welfare office ? apart from our own filth who are always the ones taking up spaces in line causing hassle shouting and claiming what they feel there entitled to?

I could keep going on and on and on about things i see every day of the week here.

Do you want me to start on the Chinese ? Do you know how many of them ive worked with in the past ? A lot. Do you know how many ive tried to be friendly with talk to and interact with on daily random occurrences ? A lot.

They have no interest in mixing with most people outside of there culture and country they stick to there own ways and thats it. There the nicest people in the world when your handing them your money.

Most of them wont even look at you i can think of many times one example one night me and few mates where in a pub it wasn't even busy and we had very little to drink there was a Chinese fella cleaning up outside in beer garden so i said to him hows things busy night? He looked right threw me and continued. He blanked the rest of us as well. Now you might think he was just ignorant we get that with Irish to but no it wasn't an isolated incident.

Ive already went past the stage of any of you giving a **** i could keep typing here ive loads of examples but whats the point your on your ''Good side'' im on mine. I have my reasons for why i dont want Irish culture mixing into certain other ones and i hope it never fully happens.

I feel sorry for you to be honest. Hopefully you'll let go of this angry nonsense one day.

AnonoBoy · 22-05-2014 02:20PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Ya because every single one of them ive talked to or tried to......

Stupid ****ing point to come out with.

How come I've got a Chinese friend and several African friends who have no problem mixing with me and my family? Sure my brother in law is African and he's got loads of Irish mates.

I see people mixing all the time. But you've never encountered it?

It's definitely you dude.

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:21PM

FTA69 wrote: »

I feel sorry for you to be honest. Hopefully you'll let go of this angry nonsense one day.

lol yep im all on my own with my taughts im the only one in the world who feels this way. :pac: I feel so alone......

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:22PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

How come I've got a Chinese friend and several African friends who have no problem mixing with me and my family? Sure my brother in law is African and he's got loads of Irish mates.

I see people mixing all the time. But you've never encountered it?

It's definitely you dude.

In that case it must be all my fault ya. Thank you for opening my eyes.

Bloe Joggs · 22-05-2014 02:22PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Funnily enough I was an active Republican for a decade, five years spent in the Provisional Movement. I think I'll rely on my own considerable experience rather than your wind-up musings.

And I'm not a f*cking shinner.

Then like many Provos you were deluding yourself about the true political background and philosophy of that movement, in my opinion. There's many things I've had to change about things I once believed in. Life is like that, you gain experience and sometimes have to leave things behind that maybe you didn't get the full scoop on the first time around, it can be a bitter pill to swallow when you dedicate a significant portion of your life to something but ultimately liberating.

Nodin · 22-05-2014 02:23PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

You know very ****ing well everything ive said you have seen it yourself at one point.

Nope. Not in Aldi, Lidl or Dunnes anyway. Or Tesco. Seen black, brown and other ethnicities of wimmin, but not what you're on about. Didn't see it down the scratcher either.

AnonoBoy · 22-05-2014 02:23PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

In that case it must be all my fault ya. Thank you for opening my eyes.

Tell me something, do you channel all your energy into how much you hate foreigners to distract you from how empty and hopeless your life is or is it for some other reason you've got this phenomenal chip on your shoulder?

Nodin · 22-05-2014 02:24PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

lol yep im all on my own with my taughts im the only one in the world who feels this way. :pac: I feel so alone......

O there are others allright, What a lovely bunch they are too.

Nodin · 22-05-2014 02:24PM

Bloe Joggs wrote: »

Then like many Provos you were deluding yourself about the true political background and philosophy of that movement, in my opinion. There's many things I've had to change about things I once believed in. Life is like that, you gain experience and sometimes have to leave things behind that maybe you didn't get the full scoop on the first time around, it can be a bitter pill to swallow when you dedicate a significant portion of your life to something but ultimately liberating.

*snicker

22-05-2014 02:25PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Right so where to i start....

See heres the thing i know what i am already none of you need to tell me. Im happy with who i am and wont change because ive no reason to.

You s all think your high and mighty right here right now calling me out on how racist etc i am :pac:

Thats how it always works in these situations guess what ? The fact that im not the only one that feels the way i do makes me very very happy.

Do you think i woke up one morning i decided right i dont like African people i think the Chinese are all mostly ignorant bastards who are only interested in themselves ?

No its all based on day one and onwards for me what ive witnessed my whole life what ive experienced where i have been in the world and who i have spoken to and seen.

I go shopping i have loud obnoxious over sized African women with kids hanging out of them all shouting looking for what they think is theres all the time. I dunno how many fecking times ive been somewhere and whos the one u can hear shouting ''I want this'' ''This should of been cheaper'' ''Your being racist''etc etc etc.

Have you ever been in your local social welfare office ? apart from our own filth who are always the ones taking up spaces in line causing hassle shouting and claiming what they feel there entitled to?

I could keep going on and on and on about things i see every day of the week here.

Do you want me to start on the Chinese ? Do you know how many of them ive worked with in the past ? A lot. Do you know how many ive tried to be friendly with talk to and interact with on daily random occurrences ? A lot.

They have no interest in mixing with most people outside of there culture and country they stick to there own ways and thats it. There the nicest people in the world when your handing them your money.

Most of them wont even look at you i can think of many times one example one night me and few mates where in a pub it wasn't even busy and we had very little to drink there was a Chinese fella cleaning up outside in beer garden so i said to him hows things busy night? He looked right threw me and continued. He blanked the rest of us as well. Now you might think he was just ignorant we get that with Irish to but no it wasn't an isolated incident.

Ive already went past the stage of any of you giving a **** i could keep typing here ive loads of examples but whats the point your on your ''Good side'' im on mine. I have my reasons for why i dont want Irish culture mixing into certain other ones and i hope it never fully happens.

Dude. Seriously. Just get laid.

kunst nugget · 22-05-2014 02:25PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

In that case it must be all my fault ya. Thank you for opening my eyes.

It's like the racism version of the nice guy syndrome. It's the fault of all the other races that they don't like you, you're a nice guy…

Nodin · 22-05-2014 02:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Dude. Seriously. Just get laid.

We could organise a whip around for him.

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:28PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Tell me something, do you channel all your energy into how much you hate foreigners to distract you from how empty and hopeless your life is or is it for some other reason you've got this phenomenal chip on your shoulder?

Yes i have an incredibly unhappy life. I have a long term girlfriend a son i live with them i have plenty of friends and interests and theres not much i want for....

Ever think maybe just maybe how i feel inside makes me happy? Because heres the thing and it makes me feel good about the world.....

Its never gonna change for as long as im alive where never gonna all except each other no matter what color or gender or sexuality we are .

And the fact i am a straight white male well.......

FTA69 · 22-05-2014 02:30PM

Bloe Joggs wrote: »

Then like many Provos you were deluding yourself about the true political background and philosophy of that movement, in my opinion. There's many things I've had to change about things I once believed in. Life is like that, you gain experience and sometimes have to leave things behind that maybe you didn't get the full scoop on the first time around, it can be a bitter pill to swallow when you dedicate a significant portion of your life to something but ultimately liberating.

What philosophy? Vague left wing policies, a generally progressive outlook and moderate nationalism?

Go on away ya wind up merchant. I'm thinking you wouldn't know much about that movement if the Beard himself kicked you up the arse.

22-05-2014 02:32PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

And the fact i am a straight white male well.......

And English-speaking. It's tough going for us.

How Soon Is Now · 22-05-2014 02:39PM

Ill end things on this note.

Theres a lot of things i cant change and i wish where different about society and the world but.....

When its all said and done ill know i won because what i believe in and how i feel well it wont ever vanish from the world as long as im alive because as a human race well we all cant live with each other and we all fight to be on top.

Weather anyone likes it or not what you dislike about something will always overpower what you like. The world will keep spinning the way it does and just to see how it bothers some people is worth it.

FTA69 · 22-05-2014 02:40PM

I'm definitely going with the black old doll theory anyway. Guarantee you a jump off some banging Jamaican one and you'll be eating Dim Sum and listening to Method Man in no time.

kunst nugget · 22-05-2014 02:42PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Ill end things on this note.

Theres a lot of things i cant change and i wish where different about society and the world but.....

When its all said and done ill know i won because what i believe in and how i feel well it wont ever vanish from the world as long as im alive because as a human race well we all cant live with each other and we all fight to be on top.

Weather anyone likes it or not what you dislike about something will always overpower what you like. The world will keep spinning the way it does and just to see how it bothers some people is worth it.

So what you're saying is that as long as you're alive there'll be someone who doesn't like foreigners? Bully for you.

.jacksparrow. · 22-05-2014 02:43PM

Well they say you never see foreign person or person of different ethnicity on the streets of Dublin homeless!

Well they said it on the Adrian Kennedy show
anyways...

folan · 22-05-2014 02:43PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

So what you're saying is that as long as you're alive there'll be someone who doesn't like foreigners? Bully for you.

its clear that he likes foreigners. just not in ireland.

Nodin · 22-05-2014 02:44PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Ill end things on this note.

Theres a lot of things i cant change and i wish where different about society and the world but.....

When its all said and done ill know i won because what i believe in and how i feel well it wont ever vanish from the world as long as im alive because as a human race well we all cant live with each other and we all fight to be on top.

Weather anyone likes it or not what you dislike about something will always overpower what you like. The world will keep spinning the way it does and just to see how it bothers some people is worth it.

....bothers you a lot more than it does the rest of us.

dickface · 22-05-2014 02:44PM

Immigration needs to be managed better than it has been for the last 10-15 years.
That's all i really have to say.

''Shocking'' racist message on n7

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