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Convicted child killer canvassing for sinn fein[Mod warning-First Post]

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  • #62
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    The men who planted this bomb are as bad as, if not worse than, the soldiers who opened fire on Bloody Sunday.

    Yes, and the royal family have decided to move on, as have the Republican movement.

    We can go round in circles all day in a "Who committed more killings" but like I said, the GFA was passed.

    Time to move on.


  • #63
    c_man
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    The Indo continuing their anti-Shinner crusade.


  • #64
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »
    Eh? Why did you quote my two posts, in one post, implying a contradiction between the two :confused:

    I never said the British Soldiers ran for office.

    The British Government are responsible for Bloody Sunday.

    To suggest that what happened that day was solely down to the soldiers, is extremely naive.

    So the commander on the day rang the British Government and asked for orders to shoot? :rolleyes:

    What happened on Bloody Sunday was outright murder but the shootings were down to the soldiers and their commanders on the spot not some suit in parliment buildings.


  • #65
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    glued wrote: »
    People encouraged members of the IRA to disarm and move into politics and now you want to shun them for doing that?

    Stop talking sense.
    The anti SF crowd don't want to hear that. It would suit them to have SF and IRA still out on the edge
    The more that SF are brought in to the political process the further they will move from a pro violence point of view.


  • #66
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    mike65 wrote: »
    and what has that got to do with the calculated murder of an 82 year old woman and two children?

    Forgiveness Mike. both sides of the conflict have decided to forgive each other and move on.

    Republicans have wrongdoings behind them, as do the British.

    They have decided to put the past behind them in the name of peace.

    Ala GFA.


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  • #67
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Balmed Out wrote: »
    I wont vote for Sinn Fein for the same reason I havent voted Fianna Fail, complete populist drivel. After where that led us in the past I cant understand how so many Fianna Fail voters can blindly try to make the same mistake again.

    Maybe you would be better off at home ironing your blueshirt. FG have nothing to be too proud of


  • #68
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So the commander on the day rang the British Government and asked for orders to shoot? :rolleyes:

    What happened on Bloody Sunday was outright murder but the shootings were down to the soldiers and their commanders on the spot not some suit in parliment buildings.

    Circular argument.

    Did SF order Mountbattens boat to be bombed:confused:


  • #69
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    c_man wrote: »
    The Indo continuing their anti-Shinner crusade.

    Not a fan of the indo by any means, but that shout keeps coming up in this thread. The indo printed the story, but they didn't invent it. It's true, and no amount of whinging about that newsrag picking on the poor shinners will change the salient fact under discussion here.

    He deliberately killed children. SF haven't disowned him. He's an active part of their current campaign of bull5hit, and evidence that the leopard hasn't changed it's spots.

    There's still a mighty stink of fertiliser off that party, on several levels.


  • #70
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Forgiveness Mike. both sides of the conflict have decided to forgive each other and move on.

    Republicans have wrongdoings behind them, as do the British.

    They have decided to put the past behind them in the name of peace.

    Ala GFA.

    The GFA has fcuk all to do with forgiveness. It's to do with acceptance. We should accept that people on all sides are not paying for what they did for the greater good. We should never forgive them.


  • #71
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,059 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Circular argument.

    Did SF order Mountbattens boat to be bombed:confused:

    Have you read the poster he's disagreeing with? That poster argues that 'every time the British vote, they're supporting child killers.'

    Your attempts to bring logic into this would be better directed at that poster.


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  • #72
    Beano
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    stimpson wrote: »
    All the political parties have blood on their hands if you go back far enough.

    The difference is that current members of sinn fein have it on their hands. and are not in the least bit apologetic about it.


  • #73
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Forgiveness Mike. both sides of the conflict have decided to forgive each other and move on.

    Republicans have wrongdoings behind them, as do the British.

    They have decided to put the past behind them in the name of peace.

    Ala GFA.

    Have they apologised? If not they havent put it behind them. All that is happened is that they promised they wont do it again.


  • #74
    Balmed Out
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,710 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Maybe you would be better off at home ironing your blueshirt.

    WTF? Go home to your mammy or argue the point.
    Do you think their not a populist party and that FF werent either? Im not a fan of any party in Irish politics they are all to some degree populist. I just think FF were the most populist and pretty much tried to please everyone to gain votes and the Sinn Fein are doing the exact same thing now.


  • #75
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    seamus wrote: »
    How many children did Lord Mountbatten, his 14 year old grandson, the 15 year old Irish boat crewmember and his daughter's mother-in-law murder?

    There is no justification for Mountbatten's murder by the IRA. It was an act of utter cowardice and barbarism. If SF and the IRA want their "we were at war" line to be taken seriously then they need to distance themselves from acts like this where innocent non-combatants were viciously slaughtered.

    The men who planted this bomb are as bad as, if not worse than, the soldiers who opened fire on Bloody Sunday.

    Arguably they were worse. At least the british soldiers didnt get up that morning with the intention of murdering children


  • #76
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't like the indo its a rag and its biased and populist, I would not vote SF myself, however I don't like anyone having all the power, who ever is in power needs someone nipping at there heels a bit, so I might and I stress might throw the odd vote to a leftish party just to redress the balance a bit even though I think the policies of sinn fein and people before profit etc are daft and populist.


    Maybe illogicat as position but there you go.


  • #77
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Beano wrote: »
    Have they apologised?

    Yes.
    Beano wrote: »
    If not they havent put it behind them. All that is happened is that they promised they wont do it again.

    Well seeing as they did apologise, that puts this one to bed.


  • #78
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Beano wrote: »
    Arguably they were worse. At least the british soldiers didnt get up that morning with the intention of murdering children

    And you know this how?


  • #79
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Yes.



    Well seeing as they did apologise, that puts this one to bed.

    When exactly did the man in question apologise for murdering children?


  • #80
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    I wonder will any of the hysterical Indo readers be holding the current Irish government responsible for aiding and abetting the killing of many many women and children by the drone attacks of the United States? Or for the many deaths because of a ravaged and savaged health system here?

    I don't suppose those CURRENT ongoing realities are visible from the high moral ground.


  • #81
    Ava_e
    Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭Ava_e


    I was always under the impression Mounbatten was killed because he was a well know peadophile/abuser of young boys. He has been linked to the Kincora Boys' home sexual abuse ring for years.


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  • #82
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    ellavin wrote: »
    My vote will always be sinn fein!
    ellavin wrote: »
    My vote will always be sinn fein!

    Ah- the Sinn Fein way.

    Two votes for every citizen.


  • #83
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    kneemos wrote: »
    Vote early and often.

    I might try I have three voting cards for two different polling stations;).


  • #84
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I wont vote SF because of their nonsense populist economic policies.


  • #85
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I wonder will any of the hysterical Indo readers be holding the current Irish government responsible for aiding and abetting the killing of many many women and children by the drone attacks of the United States? Or for the many deaths because of a ravaged and savaged health system here?

    I don't suppose those CURRENT ongoing realities are visible from the high moral ground.

    Whataboutery. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #86
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I wonder will any of the hysterical Indo readers be holding the current Irish government responsible for aiding and abetting the killing of many many women and children by the drone attacks of the United States? Or for the many deaths because of a ravaged and savaged health system here?

    I don't suppose those CURRENT ongoing realities are visible from the high moral ground.


    You post scores a solid '7' on the whataboutery scale.

    Well done.


  • #87
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Circular argument.

    Did SF order Mountbattens boat to be bombed:confused:

    Probably not but they DO have a convicted child killer canvassing for them. Would it be ok for a British politician to have Jamie Bulgers killers canvassing for them?


  • #88
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Beano wrote: »
    When exactly did the man in question apologise for murdering children?

    The man in question didn't plant the bomb based on some grudge he personally held against Mountbatten. The IRA issued an apology though. .

    Didn't you do any research or are you trotting out "populist drivel"?


  • #89
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I wonder will any of the hysterical Indo readers be holding the current Irish government responsible for aiding and abetting the killing of many many women and children by the drone attacks of the United States? Or for the many deaths because of a ravaged and savaged health system here?

    I don't suppose those CURRENT ongoing realities are visible from the high moral ground.

    You can see my thoughts on that here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056860581


  • #90
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Alias G wrote: »
    I don't know anything about the guy but I presume he worked on behalf of sinn fein for decades. The indo are clearly running this story now to damage the party's campaign. If they are not printing sensationalist tabloid rubbish then they are thumping their anti shinner agenda.

    My point is get him off the campaign trail forever. Someone that has murdered 2 old people, murdered 2 children and injured another boy in a corwardly bomb is not going to sell many votes.


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  • #91
    Beano
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    Ava_e wrote: »
    I was always under the impression Mounbatten was killed because he was a well know peadophile/abuser of young boys. He has been linked to the Kincora Boys' home sexual abuse ring for years.

    take that rubbish to the Conspiracy Theories forum. They love that in there.


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