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  • #272
    How Soon Is Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,268 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Probably the same as how every tourist feels when visiting a big city anywhere in europe . London and Paris in particular, around half foreign born population.

    Theres a reason they come to Ireland id imagine.


  • #273
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    How Soon Is Now wrote: »
    I use Americans as the example because Ireland and our culture seem to be a huge attraction to a lot of them

    They stopped coming. Now factor in that they also stopped because of terrorism and stayed at home to boost their own economy, but the nail was the lack of genuine Irish welcome.

    Hotels used to actually pride themselves on how many Eastern European staff they had and I as a photographer used be often sent to take pictures of these staff members, sometimes mounting into the hundreds, and they were proud times, but ultimately business failed.

    Personally, I thought it was bad policy but they usually bought a few pics and I got a few free dinners, and so forth, but that was not what the tourists wanted and advertising such was ultimately detrimental.


  • #274
    Bloe Joggs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Bloe Joggs


    It seems that it's going to take a lot longer than usual for Irish people to get used to the idea that we live in a much more diverse society now. I think part of the issue is that for years and years, what defined Irish identity was being Not English and many of the non national and immigrant population don't define themselves in that way or that maybe they don't appreciate and join in our precious reactionary "Non-Englishness" as much as we hoped they would. It's kind of sad when people can't just be themselves and celebrate their own uniqueness as individuals.


  • #275
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    They stopped coming. Now factor in that they also stopped because of terrorism and stayed at home to boost their own economy, but the nail was the lack of genuine Irish welcome.

    Hotels used to actually pride themselves on how many Eastern European staff they had and I as a photographer used be often sent to take pictures of these staff members, sometimes mounting into the hundreds, and they were proud times, but ultimately business failed.

    Personally, I thought it was bad policy but they usually bought a few pics and I got a few free dinners, and so forth, but that was not what the tourists wanted and advertising such was ultimately detrimental.


    So businesses failed because they hired non-Irish staff?

    Or businesses failed because the market wasn't there?

    I know a hotel that got in fancy sensors that make the urinal flush when you walk away from it. That hotel went under because tourists didn't want fancy urinals that flush when you walk away from them.


  • #276
    How Soon Is Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,268 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    Bloe Joggs wrote: »
    It seems that it's going to take a lot longer than usual for Irish people to get used to the idea that we live in a much more diverse society now. I think part of the issue is that for years and years, what defined Irish identity was being Not English and many of the non national and immigrant population don't define themselves in that way or that maybe they don't appreciate and join in our precious reactionary "Non-Englishness" as much as we hoped they would. It's kind of sad when people can't just be themselves and celebrate their own uniqueness as individuals.

    Well im speaking for myself here but far as im concerned its **** all to do with the English. Im not the most patriotic person in the world i think Ireland is a bit of a joke at the best of times but ya when it all boils down to it im happy living here and providing i can support myself my family id never leave here full term.

    My issue is im just not comfortable having to live around certain kinds of people. I dont directly have an issue with alot of the foreign people who have moved over here theres just things about some of them that bother me alot and id love if they never moved here it was grand before they graced us.


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  • #277
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    People want to live in Ireland and not Romania or Poland. It ceases being Irish and that is the issue.

    So Ireland ceases being Irish because foreign people live here?

    Gimme a break!

    Maybe to those with little imagination and very low self-confidence in themselves and us as a country but no, in reality, immigrants don't stop us being Irish and they don't stop Ireland being Ireland.


  • #278
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I know a hotel that got in fancy sensors that make the urinal flush when you walk away from it. That hotel went under because tourists didn't want fancy urinals that flush when you walk away from them.

    There wasn't a slope on the urinal was there?

    One's people drives the hotel, for sure, facilities are often over the top and even unwanted, but if the staff don't run with it, the clients, they certainly won't.


  • #279
    Bloe Joggs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Bloe Joggs


    I don't want to start quote mining or anything but this kind of thing disturbs me "id love if they never moved here it was grand before they graced us"


  • #280
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Maybe to those with little imagination and very low self-confidence in themselves and us as a country but no, in reality, immigrants don't stop us being Irish and they don't stop Ireland being Ireland.

    See, they do exactly that. Exactly that. Precisely.


  • #281
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    How Soon Is Now wrote: »
    My issue is im just not comfortable having to live around certain kinds of people.

    I don't think I'd be comfortable living around your sort of person.

    My ancestors were here first.

    Time for you to sling yer hook mate.


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  • #282
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    See, they do exactly that. Exactly that. Precisely.

    Ah bless. You're amazingly short-sighted aren't you?

    How do immigrants stop you being Irish?

    I bet you're annoyed that UKIP don't have an Irish branch you could vote for!


  • #283
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Bloe Joggs wrote: »
    I don't want to start quote mining or anything but this kind of thing disturbs me "id love if they never moved here it was grand before they graced us"

    Na, we're SUPPOSED, supposed to be talking about mixing, but we only need to look at London. That is our future.


  • #284
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I bet you're annoyed that UKIP don't have an Irish branch you could vote for!

    Powell was right.


  • #285
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Powell was right.

    He talked so much about Ireland not being Irish any more didn't he?

    :rolleyes:


  • #286
    Piliger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    See, they do exactly that. Exactly that. Precisely.

    No. Just you and a few others.


  • #287
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    He talked so much about Ireland not being Irish any more didn't he? :rolleyes:

    And that was two generations ago, or almost?

    Nineteen Sixty.


  • #288
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Piliger wrote: »
    No. Just you and a few others.

    Underestimated.


  • #289
    Piliger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Bloe Joggs wrote: »
    I don't want to start quote mining or anything but this kind of thing disturbs me "id love if they never moved here it was grand before they graced us"
    Don't be too disturbed. You have to realise that this is nothing new. Every city, and country in the world has small groups of people who hate anyone different from themselves. It's part of the human condition. Where it comes from is unknown, but it's probably partly genetic and partly growing up in families that foster that kind of 'condition'.
    We will always have them. They will always be here, whining and bit©hing and moaning about 'foreigners' and different races. Thankfully in Ireland we have fewer than the average, imho. The vast majority of Irish people love the diversity, the richness of cultures. And as long as we stay well educated, well informed and confident in ourselves as a nation and as a future, we won't ever really have to worry about them.


  • #290
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    And that was two generations ago, or almost?

    Nineteen Sixty.

    If only we could invent a time machine and send people like you back to the 1960's.

    You'd be happy because all them filthy foreigners would stay away from Ireland. And we'd be happy because we wouldn't have to listen to your type of particularly odious prattling.

    Everybody would be a winner.

    But especially us here, in modern times for obvious reasons.


  • #291
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Underestimated.

    Ah yes. The 'silent majority'.

    So silent and secretive they can only ever be alluded to by people of a certain age or a certain intelligence when they realise that their arguments don't hold water and their time is nearly past.

    I love hearing the roar from the silent majority. It's so quiet and very easy to miss.


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  • #292
    How Soon Is Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,268 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    haha i can see the whole where better then u because were more educated we except everyone bla bla bla ****e is starting to be wheeled out now.

    So thats where it ends for me in this thread because the more i say the less ill be around :P

    Enjoy.


  • #293
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    How Soon Is Now wrote: »
    haha i can see the whole where better then u because were more educated we except everyone bla bla bla ****e is starting to be wheeled out now.

    So thats where it ends for me in this thread because the more i say the less ill be around :P

    Enjoy.

    A nice convenient (if somewhat incoherent) way to slip out of a discussion without having to admit that you've got no real reasoning to back up your point alright.

    Good luck with that.


  • #294
    Red Nissan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Piliger wrote: »
    . Thankfully in Ireland we have fewer than the average, imho. .

    Might have hit the nail on the head there, we also paid billions to the bond holders where other countries burnt them.

    I think we are being taken advantage of and sold as a soft touch to all facets.


  • #295
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Piliger wrote: »
    No. Just you and a few others.

    Once again in a tourism context, we are killing the product. That product is meant to represent our nationality. An identity crisis is happening and its driven by immigration on a large scale into a small country that traded on 'irishness'. Believe me, tourists are genuinely wondering what the deal is.


  • #296
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    I understand this may be the work of the Irish Nationalist Brotherhood, a great bunch of lads no doubt.

    Certainly the stylised cross indicates it may be linked
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  • #297
    Piliger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Once again in a tourism context, we are killing the product. That product is meant to represent our nationality. An identity crisis is happening and its driven by immigration on a large scale into a small country that traded on 'irishness'. Believe me, tourists are genuinely wondering what the deal is.

    No they're not. And Bord Failte aren't either. We can't and shouldn't and won't keep Ireland as some kind of dumbass pigs in the parlour disneyland. That is gone, long gone, and it's never ever coming back. Tomorrow's Ireland is all about a nation with open arms and rich with diversity and variety.


  • #298
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    How Soon Is Now wrote: »
    theres just things about some of them that bother me alot and id love if they never moved here it was grand before they graced us.

    Nail your colours to the mast sunshine. Which them, what things?

    Or is it just vague Them people, Them things, that you can't even spell out?


  • #299
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Piliger wrote: »
    No. Just you and a few others.

    Once again in a tourism context, we are killing the product. That product is meant to represent our nationality. An identity crisis is happening and its driven by immigration on a large scale into a small country that traded on 'irishness'. Believe me, tourists are genuinely wondering what the deal is.


  • #300
    Piliger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    Might have hit the nail on the head there, we also paid billions to the bond holders where other countries burnt them.

    I think we are being taken advantage of and sold as a soft touch to all facets.

    Sounds good to me. We are going in the right direction.


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  • #301
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Once again in a tourism context, we are killing the product. That product is meant to represent our nationality. An identity crisis is happening and its driven by immigration on a large scale into a small country that traded on 'irishness'. Believe me, tourists are genuinely wondering what the deal is.

    So you'd be happy with immigrants as long as we keep them out of the hospitality sector?

    "Rest assured at our hotel your whites will only be cleaned by whites."


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