He was later interviewed and was released without charge....

eamonnq · 19-05-2014 01:20PM

hfallada wrote: »

Ireland isnt North Korea. You are innocent until proven guilty. Yes this was a serious crime. But do you put the guy in prison for the next few months( probably a year or two) until he is tried in court? Where he might get a suspended sentence as he had a bad childhood etc etc

Do you think they got the wrong guy or do you think he didn't do it ?

Actually maybe he is going to tell 'his side' of the story. I went into the takeaway to buy something to eat, the guy behind the counter jumps over it and attacked me with a syringe, I tried to fight him off and he ended up stabbing himself with the syringe, next thing another guy comes out from the kitchen and attacks me with a knife, then yet another guy arrives from the pub across the road and attacks me and holds me down on the ground until thankfully the gardai arrived and saved me.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 19-05-2014 01:21PM

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

That's the type of attitude that encourages them to do it more and more.

Let them walk all over you sure.

Let 'em. As I said, they will OD eventually.

Money is replaceable. Human life is not.

Frank Lee Midere · 19-05-2014 01:28PM

Why 6 months? Plenty of people face a judge on attempted murder charges a few days later.

hfallada · 19-05-2014 01:29PM

eamonnq wrote: »

Do you think they got the wrong guy or do you think he didn't do it ?

But what do you do with him? Put in a jail cell until he is put before court. Something which can take months

It wasn't me! · 19-05-2014 01:34PM

hfallada wrote: »

But what do you do with him? Put in a jail cell until he is put before court. Something which can take months

Yes. On remand awaiting trial.

kneemos · 19-05-2014 01:38PM

eamonnq wrote: »

Do you think they got the wrong guy or do you think he didn't do it ?

Actually maybe he is going to tell 'his side' of the story. I went into the takeaway to buy something to eat, the guy behind the counter jumps over it and attacked me with a syringe, I tried to fight him off and he ended up stabbing himself with the syringe, next thing another guy comes out from the kitchen and attacks me with a knife, then yet another guy arrives from the pub across the road and attacks me and holds me down on the ground until thankfully the gardai arrived and saved me.

The alternative is to allow the Gardi lock up people as they see fit without any judicial input.

RDM_83 again · 19-05-2014 01:39PM

hfallada wrote: »

But what do you do with him? Put in a jail cell until he is put before court. Something which can take months

Isn't that what they do in a lot of Europe?
In this case here the man is clearly a risk to the public, he carried out an assault with a deadly weapon (If your being pedantic its not a deadly weapon if the blood is clean).
There is no way he should be immediately released as there is clear evidence that he is dangerous, this isn;t relying on circumstantial evidence.

diomed · 19-05-2014 01:39PM

flutered wrote: »

them army barracks that shatter shut

I want a TV newsreader reading that (and getting it mixed up)

The Diabolical Monocle · 19-05-2014 01:40PM

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Let 'em. As I said, they will OD eventually.

Money is replaceable. Human life is not.

+ the cash is covered by the insurance policy.

The Diabolical Monocle · 19-05-2014 01:42PM

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Let 'em. As I said, they will OD eventually.

Money is replaceable. Human life is not.

+ the cash is covered by the insurance policy.

eamonnq · 19-05-2014 01:42PM

hfallada wrote: »

But what do you do with him? Put in a jail cell until he is put before court. Something which can take months

Do you think he should be let walk free?

Gyalist · 19-05-2014 01:46PM

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

+ the cash is covered by the insurance policy.

It most certainly is NOT in the vast majority of cases.

Wibbs · 19-05-2014 02:44PM

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller wrote: »

Let 'em. As I said, they will OD eventually.

Money is replaceable. Human life is not.

I for one don't feel all human life is even close to equally valid. Though to be fair I'd have the extermination urges of a dalek when it comes to irretrievable scum.

kneemos wrote: »

The alternative is to allow the Gardi lock up people as they see fit without any judicial input.

Or have a court system whereby such cases can be assessed within 24 hours and if someone is a danger to the public they should be remanded.

This is the level of "humanity" you're dealing with. Choice quotes from the article:We carjack because we are out of our head on drugs.' 'We needed a bit of entertainment' 'I have seen people being dragged out of car windows' 'Someone was in their car, we needed a bit of entertainment, we grabbed your man, told him to get out of his car he said no, so we grabbed him out, rallied it, then burnt it. I was out of my head on drugs and there was nothing to do at the time.' 'It's not far from LA, kids will be carrying guns and car jacks are a part of it.'. Personally I'd not shed any tears if a few of these wastes of oxygen were run over a few times.

19-05-2014 02:48PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Isn't that what they do in a lot of Europe?
In this case here the man is clearly a risk to the public, he carried out an assault with a deadly weapon (If your being pedantic its not a deadly weapon if the blood is clean).
There is no way he should be immediately released as there is clear evidence that he is dangerous, this isn;t relying on circumstantial evidence.

This times a thousand. What the hell are they doing releasing this scumbag back into society? The likelihood of him NOT committing another crime seems extremely slim on the outset - he's just committed an armed robbery for a few euros ffs!

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 19-05-2014 02:55PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I for one don't feel all human life is even close to equally valid. Though to be fair I'd have the extermination urges of a dalek when it comes to irretrievable scum.

Are you serious? Either do I.

I was clearly referring to the life of the staff member, not the junkie.

I made it clear that I hoped he would end up ODing.

pundy · 19-05-2014 03:15PM

surprise surprise.

IRELAND.

A grey Rough Dump full of knackers.

the_syco · 19-05-2014 04:20PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

It's because of the bankers and the government and the parents and the guards and maybe the immigrants.

You mean the the immigrant Chinese? :pac:

hfallada wrote: »

Ireland isnt North Korea. You are innocent until proven guilty. Yes this was a serious crime. But do you put the guy in prison for the next few months( probably a year or two) until he is tried in court? Where he might get a suspended sentence as he had a bad childhood etc etc

He stabbed someone in the arm with a blood filled syringe, so yes, yes I do want him kept in prison.

=-=

The Chinese should will be stocking shotguns behind the counter soon.

kneemos · 19-05-2014 04:27PM

He'll spend a few months out before his sentence or he'll be out a few months sooner if he went to prison now,same difference.

He was later interviewed and was released without charge....

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