how long is considered unacceptable?

WhiteWalls · 19-05-2014 02:27AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The eighties my boy.

I was a wee fella in short trousers mind you, but I remember it well.

When I was eleven to fourteen I was getting thirty punts a night for helping the lorry driver take the salmon to Dublin in the summertime. That was a black economy. Probably child slavery or something too, but what the fcuk did I care!

I thought the 80's were full of hardship and misery? And you only a cut of a gason in short trousers and not even an arse in them

Sir Arthur Daley · 19-05-2014 02:28AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The eighties my boy.

I was a wee fella in short trousers mind you, but I remember it well.

When I was eleven to fourteen I was getting thirty punts a night for helping the lorry driver take the salmon to Dublin in the summertime. That was a black economy. Probably child slavery or something too, but what the fcuk did I care!

30 punts a night in the 80s as a young lad, you lost all credibility there with that one.

AlwaysAnyTime · 19-05-2014 02:29AM

Anything over 5 years I think is a sign of serious problems. Not necessarily with the unemployed person, (although there are probably people screwing the system that length of time) but with an economy in such a dire state that people can go half a decade without finding a single job.

KyussBishop · 19-05-2014 02:34AM

How long is it acceptable? As long as there are not enough jobs. That's how long it is acceptable.

The Backwards Man · 19-05-2014 02:35AM

WhiteWalls wrote: »

I thought the 80's were full of hardship and misery? And you only a cut of a gason in short trousers and not even an arse in them

And where else does a black economy flourish but in the darkest depths of despair, hardship and misery?

There's a big difference between not having any money and not being able to show you had any money.

The Backwards Man · 19-05-2014 02:36AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

30 punts a night in the 80s as a young lad, you lost all credibility there with that one.

Just the facts ma'am, just the facts.

And this would have been late eighties, early nineties, me being still a young pup and all.

WhiteWalls · 19-05-2014 02:38AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And where else does a black economy flourish but in the darkest depths of despair, hardship and misery?

There's a big difference between not having any money and not being able to show you had any money.

say you would be a good man for a story and a pint

Sir Arthur Daley · 19-05-2014 02:50AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Just the facts ma'am, just the facts.

And this would have been late eighties, early nineties, me being still a young pup and all.

Lets call a spade a spade here, the early 90s are not the 80s, are you seriously trying to amuse us that in the late 80s you were getting 30 pounds a day as a kid?
If you were on 30 pounds what was the lorry driver on?

RayM · 19-05-2014 02:55AM

It's interesting that threads like this very rarely popped up during the Celtic Tiger years.

endacl · 19-05-2014 02:55AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

30 punts a night in the 80s as a young lad, you lost all credibility there with that one.

Punts....

Rhymes with 'politicians'...

Czarcasm · 19-05-2014 03:12AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Lets call a spade a spade here, the early 90s are not the 80s, are you seriously trying to amuse us that in the late 80s you were getting 30 pounds a day as a kid?
If you were on 30 pounds what was the lorry driver on?

£30 a run isn't unrealistic. Lorry drivers would've been on about £400 a week, more if you were a continental driver. Nowadays they're on fcukall only work where they can get it sub-contracting from larger freight companies.

The black economy now though is nothing like it was back in the 80's because back then there was fcukall by way of regulations.

endacl · 19-05-2014 03:13AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

£30 a run isn't unrealistic. Lorry drivers would've been on about £400 a week, more if you were a continental driver. Nowadays they're on fcukall only work where they can get it sub-contracting from larger freight companies.

The black economy now though is nothing like it was back in the 80's because back then there was fcukall by way of regulations.

And tax/income details were on paper. Lots and lots of paper...

Sir Arthur Daley · 19-05-2014 03:21AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Lorry drivers would've been on about £400 a week, more if you were a continental driver.

The average industrial wage in the late 80s was around 8k, break it down would be 150 pound per week, there is a black ecomony and imagination land economy are you seriously telling me a lorry driver was earning close to 3 times the average wage?

Czarcasm · 19-05-2014 03:32AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

The average industrial wage in the late 80s was around 8k, break it down would be 150 pound per week, there is a black ecomony and imagination land economy are you seriously telling me a lorry driver was earning close to 3 times the average wage?

Well I guess you're not going to be convinced but yes, there was quite a few of them on that sort of money, and then at the weekends they'd do taxi driving (you remember hackneys before the plates came in?), and that was the time too when they could afford to drink 15 pints in the pub, go home and sleep it off, get up the next morning and drive 300 miles around the country stopping off in Mother Hubbards for the breakfast - a big fry, or Toughers for the dinner - a big fcuk off steak!

Can't do so much as take a piss now without it needing to be recorded on the tachometer!

kneemos · 19-05-2014 04:12AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Lets call a spade a spade here, the early 90s are not the 80s, are you seriously trying to amuse us that in the late 80s you were getting 30 pounds a day as a kid?
If you were on 30 pounds what was the lorry driver on?

I heard a couple of stories of lads getting ridiculous amounts of money for little more than sitting in a lorry.
I spent about fourteen hours one time helping with deliveries down around Cork and Kerry and had aches and pains for three days afterwards,not from the work but from sitting.Maybe there's a reason they employ young fellas.

The Backwards Man · 19-05-2014 07:47AM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

Lets call a spade a spade here, the early 90s are not the 80s, are you seriously trying to amuse us that in the late 80s you were getting 30 pounds a day as a kid?
If you were on 30 pounds what was the lorry driver on?

Sixty. He didn't need as much because he was getting the dole as well.

Seriously though, that was the way it was back then.

If it makes you feel any better, in the mid nineties, when I was seventeen, I was a paving labourer for a subbie on the old Carroll's factory in Dundalk, commuting from north Donegal every day, for fourteen punts a day.

The One Doctor · 19-05-2014 09:51AM

To be fair, things are looking up with the job situation, but there's so many people unemployed that the new jobs are being snapped up almost instantly - I've applied for lots of jobs over the past few months and the vast majority of companies haven't even responded despite me having lots of experience and a job.

NZ_2014 · 19-05-2014 11:53AM

One year max, then you should be given an emigration grant, worth a years dole... you would not allowed back in the country/claim dole for a year. :pac:

jimgoose · 19-05-2014 11:55AM

Six months, Herr Oberst. After zat, you vill be presented vith a Luger vith one round in ze chamber. Good-bye.

hatrickpatrick · 19-05-2014 12:02PM

Assumed the thread title referred to willies.

how long is considered unacceptable?

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