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The Boards.ie World Manager Application Thread

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Coming across as sour grapes on your part, I'm sure there wouldn't of been a problem if you wanted to stay on that extra week and win the title.

    But sure how is it sour grapes? I didn't apply, I don't want them, if I'd applied and was in the queue then you'd have a point but I've no interest in them, I'm happy where I am, I just think this hanging about because you want to see how your current team does before leaving is taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭Maldjd23


    Seaneh wrote: »
    But sure how is it sour grapes? I didn't apply, I don't want them, if I'd applied and was in the queue then you'd have a point but I've no interest in them, I'm happy where I am, I just think this hanging about because you want to see how your current team does before leaving is taking the piss.

    May i ask then....Who is it affecting? Not you by your own admission. The other managers in the queue don't care and nobody else seems to care. It makes no difference to anybody and it seems you are just looking to argue the point for the sake of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Burlap_Sack


    Seaneh wrote: »
    But sure how is it sour grapes? I didn't apply, I don't want them, if I'd applied and was in the queue then you'd have a point but I've no interest in them, I'm happy where I am, I just think this hanging about because you want to see how your current team does before leaving is taking the piss.

    I really can't see why you would even care about something that makes no difference to you apart from being pissed that you missed out before.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Maldjd23 wrote: »
    May i ask then....Who is it affecting? Not you by your own admission. The other managers in the queue don't care and nobody else seems to care. It makes no difference to anybody and it seems you are just looking to argue the point for the sake of it.

    Because what if someone else comes along now and wants them? After 24 hours, normally, they'd just get them without waiting, but now we have a situation where someone wants to have their cake and eat it and effectively have control over two clubs. If he's willing to leave, he should leave, he didn't say when he applied "I'm applying but I want to wait 10 days to take it because I want to see where my current club finishes". It's taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭Burlap_Sack


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Because what if someone else comes along now and wants them? After 24 hours, normally, they'd just get them without waiting, but now we have a situation where someone wants to have their cake and eat it and effectively have control over two clubs. If he's willing to leave, he should leave, he didn't say when he applied "I'm applying but I want to wait 10 days to take it because I want to see where my current club finishes". It's taking the piss.

    The guy asked if he could, He didn't demand it and it seems the majority don't mind so as far I'm concerned he can do it.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    The majroty haven't said anything, so far only about 5 or 6 people have given an opinion one way or the other.

    Ultimately Mac decides as it's his game world, I just think it's kind of taking the piss is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,035 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    JamboMac wrote: »
    So anybody whose opinion actually counts doesn't care so I think it's safe to say he can finish his time at Kiev and switch then.

    Everybody in the gameworld will have an opinion and they all count, not just those that it will affect this time.

    I don't really mind either way what happens.

    However the decision that is made now will effect any future job changes because there will be a new reference point.

    Jobs have always been advertised for 24hrs to get the situation sorted as soon as.

    If we don't stress a certain timeframe then things will just get messy. As seaneh has said when does it become not ok to wait?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭The Governor


    Tonic Wine you have built a great team and I'd like to let you wave goodbye to the fans on your final game there :D

    In other words, I have no problem with letting you see out the season before jetting to Madrid :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    This situation has never risen before. Provided the managers effected do not mind I've no problem with him taking over at the end of the season (no buying or selling players in the mean time) and we can adjust the charter too read "after applying for a job and wilberto confirming your the best ranked manager you must quit your old club and apply for the new club next time your online"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    This situation has never risen before. Provided the managers effected do not mind I've no problem with him taking over at the end of the season (no buying or selling players in the mean time) and we can adjust the charter too read "after applying for a job and wilberto confirming your the best ranked manager you must quit your old club and apply for the new club next time your online"

    I don't see why he should get to do it now and then tell others they can't to the same later though?

    If you think about it, by staying at Kyiv who have a worse squad and getting 4th place he is upping his manager rating so he's getting an unfair advantage in future applications. Taking over a Champions League finalist club with most of their squad intact is a privilege and he's earned it, he's the best manager in the game world this season imho, but that privilege should be respected and accepted without conditions or let go to someone who will take them asap.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    People need to lighten up a bit... If none of the other managers who applied don't mind then there isn't a problem.

    This


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    Seaneh wrote: »
    The rule is that after 24 hours it's first come fist served, that implies that after 24 hours nobody should be allowed to "reserve" a club. Why should we "hold" a club for someone just so they can have their cake and eat it. Sure I could have stayed at Sporting for an extra week when we'd have won the league outright and I'd have "division 4 champion" officially on my account, but I left because I appled for benfica and I knew it was only fair to get it over with and let someone else come in and take sporting.

    If you apply and are successful you should be willing to take it or leave it, none of this messing about for 10 days while your current club has a chance to win something/qualify for something. If you're going, you're going.

    If he doesn't want it straight away, and none of the other 3 want it then anyone who applies now should be handed the job.

    There have been mgr changes in the past where people complained it took too long fir the new mgr to make tge move.

    Im with seaneh here (a first :)?!). You win the application lottery, you take the job ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,917 ✭✭✭✭GT_TDI_150


    So if the next winning applicant is a weekaway from acup semi final, can they call to wait to see if they get to the final (and play in it) before taking up the new job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Ask the audience


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    GT_TDI_150 wrote: »
    Im with seaneh here (a first :)?!) ...

    I will miss you dear friend........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,035 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    I will miss you dear friend........

    I thought you were back trying to move on from that crap? Not bring it back up any chance you get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭tupac_healy


    I thought you were back trying to move on from that crap? Not bring it back up any chance you get.

    I didn't bring anything up?

    Every word I said is true.... I'll miss him.... Dearly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    WHO GIVES A FLYING ****!! :pac:






























































































































    But seriously.. Who wants a poll?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    The 24 hours are up, nobody seems to want the Atletico Madrid job, I would like to apply.

    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Seaneh wrote: »
    The 24 hours are up, nobody seems to want the Atletico Madrid job, I would like to apply.

    Thanks.

    At the end of the day it's up to Mac, who has already said it's fine as long as the other applicants don't mind. Which they don't as far as I'm aware.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Well I'm an applicant now and I mind.

    If think if he's going to let Kyiv wait 10 days then he should at least re-open the application process in case anyone ranked higher changes their minds and decides they fancy a pop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Well I'm an applicant now and I mind.

    If think if he's going to let Kyiv wait 10 days then he should at least re-open the application process in case anyone ranked higher changes their minds and decides they fancy a pop.

    The applications ended at 9pm yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭tonic wine


    Seaneh wrote: »
    And all 4 should have to agree. If Atheltic Club and Lazio say "I don't mind" The Governor should have the option of taking them.
    Be nice for the chap to see Kyiv through to the end of season and Atletico are not in trouble in the league or anything so yeah why not!

    As the next line Hercule Poirot released a short statement regarding the Atletico Madrid vacancy:

    "I'm too busy mourning the loss of Laporte to be bothered with this - tonic won the race, a two week delay makes no odds to me"

    M. Poirot then began to recite 18th Century Mandarin poetry before collapsing in a heap on the floor.
    Tonic Wine you have built a great team and I'd like to let you wave goodbye to the fans on your final game there :D

    In other words, I have no problem with letting you see out the season before jetting to Madrid :)
    MrMac84 wrote: »
    This situation has never risen before. Provided the managers effected do not mind I've no problem with him taking over at the end of the season (no buying or selling players in the mean time) and we can adjust the charter too read "after applying for a job and wilberto confirming your the best ranked manager you must quit your old club and apply for the new club next time your online"


    Sorry guys, i was just asking the question, i didn't mean to cause an argument. I hope now as all managers in question have commented as per macs outline above, we can all now get back to enjoying the game and know how to deal with this issue in future.

    My apologise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Mr Blobby


    tonic wine wrote: »
    Sorry guys, i was just asking the question, i didn't mean to cause an argument. I hope now as all managers in question have commented as per macs outline above, we can all now get back to enjoying the game and know how to deal with this issue in future.

    My apologise.

    I don't think any of the teams that applied yesterday have a problem with you waiting. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    There are some rules I feel are worth fighting for, this isn't one of them so I'm gonna bow outta this!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    tonic wine wrote: »
    Sorry guys, i was just asking the question, i didn't mean to cause an argument. I hope now as all managers in question have commented as per macs outline above, we can all now get back to enjoying the game and know how to deal with this issue in future.

    My apologise.

    If you're leaving Kyiv either way, why do you want to stay? It makes no sense. Either stay or go, none of this half arsed soft landing crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭Peanut Butter Jelly


    If any of the guys that applied for Atletico originally don't mind, then what's the problem? He'll have nothing to play for at Atletico now, whereas he could get Kyiv into the CL. If it is confirmed that they do/do not qualify before the end of the season though, then I say he should move after that game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I said I'd stay out but I think one more point to be made is... If someone wants Kiev now... he should have to take AM now

    Otherwise, with the rest of the applicants agreeing, I think he should be allowed stay


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    I said I'd stay out but I think one more point to be made is... If someone wants Kiev now... he should have to take AM now

    Otherwise, with the rest of the applicants agreeing, I think he should be allowed stay

    I am actually hoping to apply for Kyiv when he leaves.
    I don't think I'll get them as other players with higher ratings will also apply but I'd like to know either way asap.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭JamboMac


    This debate got bigger than it should Mac said it was fine so stop poking the corpse with a stick.


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