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Assault in broad daylight

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  • #32
    redbaron_99
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    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    Irish people don't like paying taxes, any suggested increase is met with incredible hostility. Irish people don't like reductions in benefits, any suggested reduction is met with incredible hostility. As a result we have an underfunded police service that can't be expected to perform on a par with the best in Europe, countries where taxation levels are much higher.

    Absolute nonsense. I pay a hell of a lot of money through taxes. Most working people do. And when you add up all of these taxes, it's on a par with most countries around Europe.


  • #33
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    redbaron_99 wrote: »
    100 years ago a teenager walks up to a man like me and tries to rob me, I'd kick seven shades of sh*te out of him. If I do that today, I'd be the criminal and get severely punished for my actions. Things have changed over the last century...

    You'd both be criminals, and rightly so.

    You actually want to have the right to beat up a teenager without any repercussions? Big man you are.


  • #34
    redbaron_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭redbaron_99


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    You'd both be criminals, and rightly so.

    You actually want to have the right to beat up a teenager without any repercussions? Big man you are.

    So you're supposed to let a teenager assault you? there are plenty out there who will quite happy to.


  • #35
    Nodin
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    I say its down to letting the gay fellas have the civil partnerships.


  • #36
    Fr_Dougal
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    Sounds like we need a return of 'The Citizen'...


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  • #37
    Santa Cruz
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    redbaron_99 wrote: »
    I try my best to stay clear of Dublin city centre these days. I absolutely hate the place, night or day. But yesterday was one of those rare occasions when I had to go in.

    So, I park in the multi-storey on Parnell Street and on walking through the exit I am presented with quite a sight. Two guys beating the crap out of another guy. All three were what I would describe as 'undesirables'. They had the guy on the ground and there was lots of shouting, and sitting right next to them on the steps was what appeared to be one of their girlfriends, smoking and texting as casual as you like. Not a care in the world.

    This was not late at night. It was in broad daylight. Just after 6.30pm. And you know what, I just walked right past them. Didn't bother looking back. I just went about my day. And other people on the street did the exact same thing.

    Basically there was nothing I could do. If I tried to intervene, I might have been beaten up or worse. All three of them might have turned on me (I've seen this type of thing happen before). Or if I knocked one of them out, I might have been up on charges.

    I was going to call the gardai, but saw someone else on their phone and heard him reporting the assault. And so I went about my business.

    But the incident is stuck in my head. I'm 36 years old, and even back when I was 20 this would have shocked me to see something like this on a busy street in daylight. Over the last 15 years this city, and country (you only need to look at the news today to see its nationwide) has become a very dangerous place. What is it going to be like 20 years from now???

    I think we as a nation need to start thinking about where we're headed. This country seems completely rudderless. The authorities and government are not providing a positive direction and I can only see things getting worse.

    You would think with the amount of taxes we pay, that we would at least live in a safe environment.

    Thoughts?

    What would Jesus have done?


  • #38
    Amirani
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    Nodin wrote: »
    I say its down to letting the gay fellas have the civil partnerships.

    And adoptions. These gay parents are rearing terrible roughians.


  • #39
    EyeSight
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    Nino Brown wrote: »
    What can the Gardai do really? Its a lot of hassle to arrest them, they'd be out that evening. Better to let them fight it out, they might even do the gene pool a favour with a lucky punch.

    Their job.
    It's a lot of hassle to arrest them? :rolleyes:
    When will the irish people stop bending over? We should always strive to make things better! Not just put up with everything


  • #40
    Boombastic
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    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    And adoptions. These gay parents are rearing terrible roughians.

    Abortion would have sorted the problems


  • #41
    michael999999
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    EyeSight wrote: »
    Their job.
    It's a lot of hassle to arrest them? :rolleyes:
    When will the irish people stop bending over? We should always strive to make things better! Not just put up with everything

    If the Gardai won't look after each other, what hope have we got?


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  • #42
    Bongalongherb
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    You have to understand folks that it is not like it was in the past, as these little teenagers now can stick a knife into you just for looking crooked at them. It's a brave new world out there these days. Got to be careful, and any-one saying that they will kick the sh*t out of some of them need to think twice, sure a fare few of them have guns now.

    It's changed a lot indeed.


  • #43
    lolo62
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    OP it's pretty traumatic to witness violence regardless of whether the people doing it are wearing tracksuits or not.
    I personally don't think Dublin is too dangerous (before 10pm on a Friday night anyway!) I think the trick is not to be afraid as fear is a magnet for bad situations.
    That kind of thing doesn't happen every day in broad daylight..you were just unlucky in having to witness it the way you did.
    So right to keep going, and you made sure it want left unreported so duty done there.


  • #44
    czechlin
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    Heat_Wave sorry to hear that, hope you're ok, that's really unpleasant situation :(

    I've been living in Dublin good few years now and have to admit that while I'm quite happy with my life here I am getting fairly fed up with the encounters of scumbag behaviour on nearly a daily basis. Few of my friends have complained about it as well. I'm not sure if it's just me or if the city centre is really getting worse. It's hard to ignore when it's right in your face. It's kind of scary how I got used to it though. My friend has been living here 2 years and I see how is she not coping. She's had enough. She was passing one of the hotels the other day around 5-6pm and some scumbags physically attacked a couple (tourists) walking by for no apparent reason!

    I don't mind the individuals asking for a smoke etc the odd time as long as they are polite but I hate the sight of those really dodgy aggressive types hanging around, drinking publicly, shouting at passers by and looking for conflict. Men or women, they are equally bad. As for the Gardai, there isn't enough of them. And as mentioned above the courts have failed. I can't even read the papers any more because it frustrates me so much. Dozens of previous convictions and they are let go. Disgrace.


  • #45
    redbaron_99
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    lolo62 wrote: »
    OP it's pretty traumatic to witness violence regardless of whether the people doing it are wearing tracksuits or not.
    I personally don't think Dublin is too dangerous (before 10pm on a Friday night anyway!) I think the trick is not to be afraid as fear is a magnet for bad situations.
    That kind of thing doesn't happen every day in broad daylight..you were just unlucky in having to witness it the way you did.
    So right to keep going, and you made sure it want left unreported so duty done there.

    Go back and read the opening post. Someone was reporting it.


  • #46
    SEPT 23 1989
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    I blame that rock and roll the whippersnappers jive to


  • #47
    mrsbyrne
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    I was coming out of work one night in Temple Bar I'll tell you when it was, around the time of the original Space Shuttle. Anyway right there on the pavement, crowds milling around oblivious, a fella is beating ten bells out of his female companion, she's croubched down with her hands over her head in the old atomic crash position.
    Being fearless of course I immediately waded in to save my sister.
    Up she gets like Lazarus waving an umbrella" geh away from my felllaaaa'. That told me.


  • #48
    Knob Longman
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    Boombastic wrote: »
    Abortion would have sorted the problems

    Illegal here of course..:rolleyes:


  • #49
    Nino Brown
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    EyeSight wrote: »
    Their job.
    It's a lot of hassle to arrest them? :rolleyes:
    When will the irish people stop bending over? We should always strive to make things better! Not just put up with everything

    You arrest two junkies for fighting, neither will press charges against the other, so you have them for disturbing the peace or some other BS charge. The Gardai have to do all that paperwork, if it even gets as far as court the guard has to go there too, they'll walk, possible get a fine they won't pay, meanwhile the tax payer pays all the costs.
    So it's a huge waste of Garda time and tax payers money. We should strive to make things better of course, but the system needs to change, I't rather see the Gardai helping real people, and let the junkies kill each other if they like.


  • #50
    cloud493
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    Another Dublin slamming thread how original :rolleyes:


  • #51
    redbaron_99
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    cloud493 wrote: »
    Another Dublin slamming thread how original :rolleyes:

    No one is forcing you to read it or participate in it. :rolleyes:


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  • #52
    Bongalongherb
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    cloud493 wrote: »
    Another Dublin slamming thread how original :rolleyes:

    In all fairness, Dublin city has gone to sh!t. Every time I'm in there I see problems. I'm just glad I don't live there. Once I hit O' Connell street I get a bang of pish in the air, not nice.


  • #53
    MagicMarker
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    Good heavens, two people involved in a fight? What kind of zoo is this city turning into!?!?!?!

    I'm booking myself onto the first flight out of here, to a city where this sort of carry on doesn't carry on!


  • #54
    EyeSight
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    Nino Brown wrote: »
    You arrest two junkies for fighting, neither will press charges against the other, so you have them for disturbing the peace or some other BS charge. The Gardai have to do all that paperwork, if it even gets as far as court the guard has to go there too, they'll walk, possible get a fine they won't pay, meanwhile the tax payer pays all the costs.
    So it's a huge waste of Garda time and tax payers money. We should strive to make things better of course, but the system needs to change, I't rather see the Gardai helping real people, and let the junkies kill each other if they like.
    But the gardai should still do it and actively complain to the government about how much time it's wasting and why it's useless. Then action can be taken.
    Everyone ignoring it will do nothing

    Besides, i'm sure the businesses in the area would rather the junkies be arrested as it will take them away for a while. IT will also show the scumbags that it's not allowed


  • #55
    redbaron_99
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Good heavens, two people involved in a fight? What kind of zoo is this city turning into!?!?!?!

    I'm booking myself onto the first flight out of here, to a city where this sort of carry on doesn't carry on!

    It wasn't two people involved in a fight. Try reading the post again.


  • #56
    lolo62
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭lolo62


    redbaron_99 wrote: »
    Go back and read the opening post. Someone was reporting it.

    I did, as I said to op duty done by making sure it wasn't left unreported. You wouldn't be looking for a fight yourself now would you?!


  • #57
    MagicMarker
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    redbaron_99 wrote: »
    It wasn't two people involved in a fight. Try reading the post again.
    Good heavens, three people involved in a fight? What kind of zoo is this city turning into!?!?!?!

    I'm booking myself onto the first flight out of here, to a city where this sort of carry on doesn't carry on!


  • #58
    Amirani
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    EyeSight wrote: »
    Besides, i'm sure the businesses in the area would rather the junkies be arrested as it will take them away for a while. IT will also show the scumbags that it's not allowed

    Via cleverly crafted internet memes I presume? :P


  • #59
    redbaron_99
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Good heavens, three people involved in a fight? What kind of zoo is this city turning into!?!?!?!

    I'm booking myself onto the first flight out of here, to a city where this sort of carry on doesn't carry on!

    Funnytard.


  • #60
    EyeSight
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Good heavens, three people involved in a fight? What kind of zoo is this city turning into!?!?!?!

    I'm booking myself onto the first flight out of here, to a city where this sort of carry on doesn't carry on!
    Do you every walk around that area? It's not like this one fight is a rare thing. Crap like this happens all the time there. A lot of the time it happens to innocent citizens, tourists etc. That's what this thread is about.

    But no, lets all just put up with this. Sure it's worse in the congo.


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  • #61
    Bongalongherb
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    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Good heavens, two people involved in a fight? What kind of zoo is this city turning into!?!?!?!

    I'm booking myself onto the first flight out of here, to a city where this sort of carry on doesn't carry on!

    The OP's observation of his encounter in viewing this is only one example, the amount of crap all-told that is seen every fecking day in there is just nuts. It most definitely is allowed go to the dogs. The city gardai are so used to it now they treat it as a few kids playing, when the public are sick of the crap.

    So yes, Dublin city is a kip to travel through, never mind living there all bunched up onto each-other, squashed together like sardines.


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