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Could you survive?

  • 12-05-2014 10:13PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭


    I was just watching the new reality show on Channel 4 called The Island and it got me thinking that I couldn't survive on an island with limited tools to get food and even start a fire by rubbing sticks together. I'd wimp out at killing an animal to feed myself too. So AH could you survive under those conditions?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    KKkitty wrote: »
    I was just watching the new reality show on Channel 4 called The Island and it got me thinking that I couldn't survive on an island with limited tools to get food and even start a fire by rubbing sticks together. I'd wimp out at killing an animal to feed myself too. So AH could you survive under those conditions?

    I could survive. I've watched Castaway .... and Gilligan's Island. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    I could survive. I've watched Castaway .... and Gilligan's Island. :D

    I've watched I'm a "celebrity" so I'm sure I could cope :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    KKkitty wrote: »
    I was just watching the new reality show on Channel 4 called The Island and it got me thinking that I couldn't survive on an island with limited tools to get food and even start a fire by rubbing sticks together. I'd wimp out at killing an animal to feed myself too. So AH could you survive under those conditions?
    So you would curl up into a ball and die instead :( If you were faced with that situation I think you would quickly adapt to survive :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I live in Carlow, of course I could survive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭Spring Onion


    I would call my best friend on the island "O'Neill"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Used to be in the scouts. No bother :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    So you would curl up into a ball and die instead :( If you were faced with that situation I think you would quickly adapt to survive :)

    Maybe when I lost all sense and sensibility after almost starving I could survive after all. That is of course if I didn't give myself food poisoning :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭whupdedo


    Pfffft I'm from the middle of the Burren, give us a real challenge :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    Super-Rush wrote: »
    I live in Carlow, of course I could survive.

    I live in Carlow too but I love my home comforts too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    as long as I know how to love i'd know i'd stay alive


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    KKkitty wrote: »
    I live in Carlow too but I love my home comforts too much.

    Indoor toilets aren't that big a deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    anncoates wrote: »
    Indoor toilets aren't that big a deal.

    Well that, running water, heating, food and the old roof over my head is a big plus too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    anncoates wrote: »
    Indoor toilets aren't that big a deal.

    I should have changed those stupid locks and make you leave the key


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Duvetdays


    WILSON !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I don't think I could. The electricity went out for about two hours during the big storms earlier on in the year and I was partially-clothed,uncouth,bearded,quivering wreck by the time order was restored.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭LizzieJones


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Well that, running water, heating, food and the old roof over my head is a big plus too.

    All you would need is a river, a fire, some fish and coconuts and a cave and there ya go. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    As long as you have some Mirukuru you'll be fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭vitani


    I'd be grand as long as I could Google how to survive on an island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    No alcohol. No women. Just a shower of Englishmen. I reckon the will to live would be the major hurdle. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    I wouldn't actually choose to go on a show and be put in a situation where I had to kill animals.

    But if I somehow ended up in that situation then I think I'd survive. At least as well as any of the lads on it so far, they're not the best lol


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Did anyone hear of the Dutch Survivor show in the 2009 season, male island vs female island, the show was a disaster and the concept was changed midway because of the events that occured, but it was a telling social experiment that has never been repeated

    This very interesting article, below, was originally posted on Reddit. However, I came across it on another forum I frequent. Would have loved to credit the OP.

    Enjoy:


    "Quite a few years ago, I had the pleasure of watching the Dutch version of Survivor with my feminist roommate. That particular series of Dutch Survivor would have two islands, one populated by men and one populated by women.

    The feminist roommate had been promoting that particular series to me and the other students in the house for weeks because it would show us, according to her, what a society run by women - free from the evils of Patriarchy – would be like.

    And it did. Oh it did.

    Here is what happened: Initially both groups were dropped on their respective islands, given some supplies to get started and left to fend for themselves. In both groups there was some initial squabbling as people tried to figure out a local hierarchy.

    The men pretty much did whatever they felt was necessary – there was no leader giving orders. Men who felt like hunting, foraging or fishing did so. Another guy decided he was fed up with sitting on sand and started making benches. Others built a hut that gradually grew and evolved. Another guy cooked every night. Within days a neat little civilization was thriving, each day being slightly more prosperous than the previous one.

    The women settled into a routine as well. The hung up a clothesline to dry their towels, then proceeded to sunbathe and squabble. Because unlike men, women were unable to do anything without consensus of the whole group. And because it was a group of at least a dozen women, consensus was never reached.

    During the next few episodes, the women ate all their initial supplies, got drenched by tropical storms several times, were eaten alive by sand fleas and were generally miserable. The men on the other hand, were quite content. There were disagreements of course, but they were generally resolved.

    Watching this with my feminist roommate was wonderful. Initially she tried to rationalize the differences, but her arguments became weaker and weaker. Eventually, the people running the program decided something had to change. In order to help the women out, three men would be selected to go to their island. In return, three women would take their place at the men’s island.

    The look on my feminist roommates face during this episode was priceless.

    Initially, the three men selected for the women’s island were ecstatic, for obvious reason. But then they arrived at the island and were greeted by the women. ‘Where is your hut?’,they asked. ‘We have no hut’ ‘Where are your supplies?’ they asked, dismayed ‘We ate all the rice’ And so on.

    The three men ended up working like dogs, using all the skills developed by trial and error in their first few weeks – building a hut, fish, trying to get the women to forage. The women continued to dam and sunbathe.

    The three women who were sent to the men’s island were delighted – food, shelter and plenty of male attention was freely available.They too continued to sunbathe.

    And that my friends, is what Patriarchy is. My former roommate is no longer a feminist."




    I laughed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It's the poor stingray I felt sorry for, after one of those taepots stabbed it with the spear and the ray swam off with the point stuck in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    lalala I'm not reading that. Was it worth watching though? coz I might watch it, love survivor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    They did a poor mans version of it here in Ireland back in the 1980s, Gerry Ryan killed a lamb and there was outcry about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭Geomy


    A spade, swiss army knife, saw, loppers, secateurs and a sharpening stone and wd 40 is enough tools to survive on an Island.
    I have caught flatfish by using a spear and it's easy to make fish and crustacean traps, as I can weave wicker baskets etc
    You'd just need to know about watercraft, seaweeds and
    You'd need a few changes of clothes alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    All you would need is a river, a fire, some fish and coconuts and a cave and there ya go. :)

    I'm a bit clumsy at the best of times so I'd fall into the river, burn myself on the fire, in a pathetic attempt at whacking coconuts out of a tree I'd end up with concussion after one hits me on the head, get an awful dose of the runs after the fish and last but not least the cave caves in on top of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭full_irish


    Adamantium wrote: »
    Did anyone hear of the Dutch Survivor show in the 2009 season, male island vs female island, the show was a disaster and the concept was changed midway because of the events that occured, but it was a telling social experiment that has never been repeated

    .....

    The three women who were sent to the men’s island were delighted – food, shelter and plenty of male attention was freely available.They too continued to sunbathe.

    And that my friends, is what Patriarchy is. My former roommate is no longer a feminist."




    I laughed

    What's the name of this show? My feminist housemate said while watching this earlier "pffft, women would be so much better on that island than men" then shíted on about patriarchy for a while (I'll be honest I tuned out a little bit).

    Anyway, to cut a long story short - when I asked her why this would be the case, she made excuses and left the room as she wasn't able to give a reason. I would love to get her to sit down and watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭KKkitty


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    I wouldn't actually choose to go on a show and be put in a situation where I had to kill animals.

    But if I somehow ended up in that situation then I think I'd survive. At least as well as any of the lads on it so far, they're not the best lol

    I left the sitting room for a bit tonight purely because they had trapped a crocodile and I knew what was happening next. I'm wondering will this show get some backlash from animal rights groups for showing what these men are doing though?


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't have a hope I am too use to instant electricity and supermarkets. What is interesting is my mother who is now dead grew up on a farm where they grew most of the veg they ate and they keep pigs which they killed themselves for meat, they cut turf for fuel and had cows for milk and butter the only food they got in the shops was flour and porridge...now I am sure if my mother was alive she and her generation would have a much better chance of surviving than I ever would.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    full_irish wrote: »
    What's the name of this show? My feminist housemate said while watching this earlier "pffft, women would be so much better on that island than men" then shíted on about patriarchy for a while (I'll be honest I tuned out a little bit).

    Anyway, to cut a long story short - when I asked her why this would be the case, she made excuses and left the room as she wasn't able to give a reason. I would love to get her to sit down and watch it.

    It's simply the Dutch Version of Survivior and it is was either the 2009 or 2011 season (it was the 24th season of that country's version)

    I've no link I'm afraid, but I'm sure youtube or a torrent site out there can help


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