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  • #32
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    It's either emigrate or move to Dublin. Very few people seem to be staying where they grew up


  • #33
    arctan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭arctan


    rockbeast wrote: »
    Why would you limit yourself by stating this?:confused:

    Anyway, at 26, you should be doing what you want and not what you have to.

    it's not and hasn't, but in the sector I'm in, it's as far as I can go atm within my current company and competitors without having a degree, and they are not willing to train me up in house, or any training at all for that matter.

    my options were, to get the degree at my own accord and time (3-4years)
    doing the same or similar job with little budge of pay.

    or

    go to the UK, take a pay cut for 18 months, get put through an internationally recognised training program in a bigger company. after two years qualify as engineer, and if I want, get sent onto do IET exams for chartered engineer status... timeframe circa 3 years with pay back up to the scale I was at in Ireland after 18 months


  • #34
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Unless you wish to move to Dublin you can get used to it. There are employment opportunities for graduates etc. in Dublin but rural Ireland is finished due to the loss of young people. If they get established in the UK etc. it's hard to see them returning to an employment blackspot.

    Nonsense, technology is making remote working easier all the time.


  • #35
    rockbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    arctan wrote: »
    it's not and hasn't, but in the sector I'm in, it's as far as I can go atm within my current company and competitors without having a degree, and they are not willing to train me up in house, or any training at all for that matter.

    my options were, to get the degree at my own accord and time (3-4years)
    doing the same or similar job with little budge of pay.

    or

    go to the UK, take a pay cut for 18 months, get put through an internationally recognised training program in a bigger company. after two years qualify as engineer, and if I want, get sent onto do IET exams for chartered engineer status... timeframe circa 3 years with pay back up to the scale I was at in Ireland after 18 months


    Fair enough, sounds like you've made your mind up on UK. I don't doubt you're right.

    Good luck over there:)


  • #36
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    turnikett1 wrote: »
    I'm sure I'm not the only one but it's dawned on me recently that all my friends are leaving the country, and it's starting to feel empty and a bit lonely.

    Been there done that in the mid 80s when threre was a similar exodus from these shores.
    (Dun Laoghaire to London Euston, Via Holyhead) on a one way ticket . . .

    I came back, most didn't.

    The UK England is home to many Irish people who have settled in & done very well over the decades & centuries.


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  • #37
    UCDVet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Nonsense, technology is making remote working easier all the time.

    Most of the time though, it's not a technological problem. For generic office worker types - there isn't really any work that you couldn't have done remotely in the 90s on a dial up.

    The problem is more to do with trust. Lots of managers don't trust employees to actually *work* when they are home. I've personally seen lots of people who stayed home and didn't actually work when they were WFH. After getting burned once or twice, most companies don't see the value. Plenty of locals, plus hey, they can always bring in another immigrant.

    Particularly entry level type positions.

    // Would like to work from home :(


  • #38
    FalconGirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    One brother going to Canada in November, another to NYC in 2 weeks. Ill be going to Canada as well when I finish my degree. Ireland is a political and economic wasteland and its becoming apparent to me more than ever that we are screwed. Standards of living are declining as evidenced by a friend who was made wait 18 hours in the Mater hospital with possible bleeding on the brain while junkies were being processed quicker than him. Unacceptable for a man who contributes to society and pays his taxes.

    Money has been sucked out of the health system. Continued corruption, cronyism, quangos, future living standards, cute hoorism, taxation with nothing in return are all reasons why i want to leave.

    Ive noticed a huge change in Dublin City Centre where there are huge numbers of foreign students and workers and not so many Irish. A great country that has been ruined by the actions of so few.


  • #39
    GalwayGuy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    catallus wrote: »
    If you believe that those who make their fortunes on the backs of others and refuse to re-invest it are blameless for unemployment then you are truly lost in in an abyss of capitulation to demands of the elites.

    Why should a man love his fetters, though they be made of gold?


    *Cringe*


  • #40
    anto9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    I left too ,to a far off shore.Will the last person to stay please turn off the lights lol.Dublin my home City now feels foreign when i go back .I do like to return for holidays when i can afford it about every 2 years .


  • #41
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    titan18 wrote: »
    It's either emigrate or move to Dublin

    No it isn't. There's plenty of work around for people who are actually willing to look for it.

    Typical Irish attitude, go straight for the nuclear option if everything isn't handed to you on a plate.


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  • #42
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    No it isn't. There's plenty of work around for people who are actually willing to look for it.

    Typical Irish attitude, go straight for the nuclear option if everything isn't handed to you on a plate.

    Meh,I'm working atm, but then most of my friends have gone to Dublin or left. Most of the jobs are there


  • #43
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    titan18 wrote: »
    Meh,I'm working atm, but then most of my friends have gone to Dublin or left. Most of the jobs are there

    Of course most of the jobs are there what with it being the main population centre of the country by far. Logical stuff.

    However, saying that the only option is to go there for a job or just leave the country is silly.


  • #44
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Of course most of the jobs are there what with it being the main population centre of the country by far. Logical stuff.

    However, saying that the only option is to go there for a job or just leave the country is silly.

    Is that not just a stupid cycle, where most of the people are there, so most of the jobs go there, meaning places that don't get the jobs just have more people leaving to go to Dublin.

    About 90% of my college class are gone to Dublin or left the country.


  • #45
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    No it isn't. There's plenty of work around for people who are actually willing to look for it.

    Typical Irish attitude, go straight for the nuclear option if everything isn't handed to you on a plate.

    REALLY ????


  • #46
    Kitty6277
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,204 ✭✭✭Kitty6277


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Unless you wish to move to Dublin you can get used to it. There are employment opportunities for graduates etc. in Dublin but rural Ireland is finished due to the loss of young people. If they get established in the UK etc. it's hard to see them returning to an employment blackspot.

    I think everywhere outside Dublin is considered "rural Ireland" at this stage:rolleyes:


  • #47
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    titan18 wrote: »
    Is that not just a stupid cycle, where most of the people are there, so most of the jobs go there, meaning places that don't get the jobs just have more people leaving to go to Dublin.

    This happens in every country.


  • #48
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    No it isn't. There's plenty of work around for people who are actually willing to look for it.

    Typical Irish attitude, go straight for the nuclear option if everything isn't handed to you on a plate.
    No, there is not enough work to go around:
    KyussBishop wrote: »
    Just a statistic worth repeating in every thread like this, to nip certain debates in the bud: 28 unemployed people per job vacancy
    http://www.nerinstitute.net/imglibrary/2014/01/201401211508391.jpg
    http://www.nerinstitute.net/blog/2014/01/21/over-28-unemployed-people-for-each-vacancy-in-the/

    It's right there at the top of the second page - and I remember addressing the same myth from you before as well in other threads.


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