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Eurovision Song Contest 2014

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    #5012
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    castletownman wrote: »
    I'll probably get infracted for the following but.......I'd be in favour of gay rights. It's a modern world after all. Times have changed. But it's those overly-flamboyant, cross dressing types that make a big deal of being gay and the discrimination they suffer from that drive me mad.

    Stephen Fry was a big advocate towards gay rights and highlighted the homophobia in Russia in the build up to the Winter Olympics. Garnered huge publicity. He isn't all up in your face "haaayyyy". And he is one of the most respected television personalities of modern times. It feels like that the likes of Conchita Wurst, Panti Bliss and others dress and act as camp as they do just to rattle a few cages.

    So what my poorly-worded rant is trying to say is those cross-dressing types of the gay world are actually doing more harm in their quest for respect.

    Eh, you do realise that the Conchita thing is firstly an act and secondly a drag act.
    Drag Acts have been around for years and have always been camp, flamboyant and OTT. That's the act.
    Never see Danny La Rue in is time?

    Don't see what harm he has done for Gay rights at all to be honest and perhaps you should like at your own judgement.


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    #5013
    Chucken
    Registered Users Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Brilliant thread as usual folks :)

    Been a fun week.

    I'll bid you all goodnight and wish you all well.


    See you in 2015 :cool: Here or There :eek:

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    #5014
    purplesnack
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭purplesnack


    So happy Concita won. Now off to dance to the Michael Jackson experience on the Wii :-)


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    #5015
    Irish Aris
    Registered Users Posts: 5,024 ✭✭✭Irish Aris


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    And none of any of those things has anything remotely to do with a song contest.

    Sorry to come over all serious and boring, but when did it stop being about the song?

    It's about the song AND the presentation on stage, and it has been like that for at least 12 years now.


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    #5016
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,746 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Woodville56 wrote: »
    As I posted earlier - the majority of voting Europe supported it despite the Russian love in with its minions !

    ....and even Russia gave votes to Austria.


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    #5017
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    And none of any of those things has anything remotely to do with a song contest.

    Sorry to come over all serious and boring, but when did it stop being about the song?

    Who says that it wasn't about that song? The Austrian song won because it was a good song not because it's singer happened to be a man with a beard. It's a pity that all people want to look at is how the singer looks like and not how good the song is.


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    #5018
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    131spanner wrote: »
    I enjoyed that. I think Austria won largely off the back of the novelty of a bearded woman. No doubt she can sing very well and congratulations to her, but as a song it didn't stand out IMO.

    Roll on next year, hopefully Ireland can get its shít together :)

    It did stand out. I heard the song before I saw who was singing it. She smashed it out of he park


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    #5019
    yerwanthere123
    Registered Users, Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,376 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    What a massive shame a gimmick won over the far superior song from The Netherlands. Not denying for a second that Conchita had a great song and he sang it excellently, but had it been a normal guy/woman singing that tonight they wouldn't have won.

    The Netherlands were robbed :(


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    #5020
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    What a massive shame a gimmick won over the far superior song from The Netherlands. Not denying for a second that Conchita had a great song and he sang it excellently, but had it been a normal guy/woman singing that tonight they wouldn't have won.

    The Netherlands were robbed :(

    How were The Netherlands robbed when the got less points by quite a margin?

    In a week's time you won't even remember the Dutch song.


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    #5021
    Bottleopener
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭Bottleopener


    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=IE

    Haha, Poland won our televote.

    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=1873
    Ireland 12th in the semi.


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    #5022
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    castletownman wrote: »
    I'll probably get infracted for the following but.......I'd be in favour of gay rights. It's a modern world after all. Times have changed. But it's those overly-flamboyant, cross dressing types that make a big deal of being gay and the discrimination they suffer from that drive me mad.

    Stephen Fry was a big advocate towards gay rights and highlighted the homophobia in Russia in the build up to the Winter Olympics. Garnered huge publicity. He isn't all up in your face "haaayyyy". And he is one of the most respected television personalities of modern times. It feels like that the likes of Conchita Wurst, Panti Bliss and others dress and act as camp as they do just to rattle a few cages.

    So what my poorly-worded rant is trying to say is those cross-dressing types of the gay world are actually doing more harm in their quest for respect.
    Sometimes cages need to be rattled.

    We are not a straight country nor are we a conservative one.

    I stand four square behind Panti and the drag acts who fought for our rights while others hid in their closets!

    Viva la difference!


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    #5023
    Caprica
    Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Caprica


    Was really surprised with the voting for Austria. I fully expected nothing from Eastern Europe and the Balkans but she picked up a lot of points in those regions. A well deserved victory, a truly amazing performance. A great performance from the Netherlands.

    Azerbaijan had there worst performance ever, with a very poor song, the singers english was very poor. Dissapointed for France, I really liked the song but live it was far from perfect.

    All the finalists put on an amazing show, it shows up how poor the Irish effort was, we were so far of the mark. Will we learn from our errors? Unlikely


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    #5024
    AK333
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    CountyHurler wrote: »
    Riverdance live from the point in 1995.. :eek:

    I love Riverdance, I never get tired of watching it

    but then I set dance :o


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    #5025
    Lapin
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    CKonetheonlyone wrote: »
    I think more people would be incredulous at the suggestion that 'Heartbeat' was a better song.

    That's very true.

    After all - Majority rules.

    Unfortunately the majority don't know their arse from their elbow and this has been proven year after year in the Eurovision.

    Anyone who beleives tonight's winner was victorious on his singing ability alone hasn't a clue.

    He won beacause he wore a dress - and a beard.


    CKonetheonlyone wrote: »
    Europe says, eh........ no.

    Europe needs to cop itself on.


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    #5026
    hmmm
    Registered Users Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Look at that - Russian jury put Austria in 11th, but the televote had them in 3rd
    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=RU

    Way to go Russian peoples :P


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    #5027
    131spanner
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    efb wrote: »
    It did stand out. I heard the song before I saw who was singing it. She smashed it out of he park

    I'm not sure I'd agree, but yeah she's got some pair of lungs!


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    #5028
    Skid X
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    This wouldn't be for everyone ....

    But Stewart Morris does the BBC talkback over the end of the 1977 Eurovision and gets very angry.

    Lovely Stuff.



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    #5029
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Bottleopener wrote: »
    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=IE

    Haha, Poland won our televote.

    That's some disconnect between our jury and public there; Poland coming first with the public and not getting any jury votes at all?


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    #5030
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,746 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    What a massive shame a gimmick won over the far superior song from The Netherlands. Not denying for a second that Conchita had a great song and he sang it excellently, but had it been a normal guy/woman singing that tonight they wouldn't have won.

    The Netherlands were robbed :(

    There is often two top songs.

    I often preferred the song that came second. I just download the songs I like.

    The Dutch were quality and it was shown by where they finished, in the top 2 with another quality song and singer.


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    #5031
    Woodville56
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    Not denying for a second that Conchita had a great song and he sang it excellently, but had it been a normal guy/woman singing that tonight they wouldn't have won(

    Can you explain what you mean by a "normal guy/woman"? Threading close to homophobia there me thinks !


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    #5032
    CountyHurler
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    AK333 wrote: »
    I love Riverdance, I never get tired of watching it
    but then I set dance :o

    It has me wondering what Jean Butler would look like with a beard...


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    #5033
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,404 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    That's some disconnect between our jury and public there; Poland coming first with the public and not getting any jury votes at all?

    That be our own political voting then i.e. the tens of 1,000s of Polish that live here voting for the motherland. We usually give Lithuania a big vote for the same reason though don't think they were in it this year.

    BTW I'm I the only one who thought Holland's entry was complete rubbish? If i wanted to see bland country and western duets, I'm sure Youtube has countless ones available.


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    #5034
    Go Harvey Go
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    Bottleopener wrote: »
    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=IE

    Haha, Poland won our televote.

    So Jenny Greene liked Romania much more than her fellow jury members did - and liked the Netherlands much less than they did, too... :eek: :eek:

    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/history/by-year/contest?event=1873
    Ireland 12th in the semi.

    But some 17 points behind Slovenia in 10th. Ouch.


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    #5035
    Irish Aris
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    Lapin wrote: »
    That's very true.

    After all - Majority rules.
    Unfortunately the majority don't know their arse from their elbow and this has been proven year after year in the Eurovision.
    Anyone who beleives tonight's winner was victorious on his singing ability alone hasn't a clue.

    He won beacause he wore a dress - and a beard.

    Europe needs to cop itself on.

    and you declare the bold part above as. . . a professional musician? a music lover? or what?


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    #5036
    MisterAnarchy
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    Personally I think the winning songs were vastly superior before the public voting was introduced.
    Its a farce now ,too many gimmicks,bloc voting and the fact that most people voting are tasteless tweens.
    Its like the Top 40 charts now ;full of garbage.


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    #5037
    calex71
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Personally I think the winning songs were vastly superior before the public voting was introduced.
    Its a farce now ,too many gimmicks,bloc voting and the fact that most people voting are tasteless tweens.
    Its like the Top 40 charts now ;full of garbage.

    Once i passed the 30 years mark I learned to just shrug my shoulders and deal with it to be honest :p


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    #5038
    Amik
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    Teamshadowclan wrote: »
    That's some disconnect between our jury and public there; Poland coming first with the public and not getting any jury votes at all?

    UK also has a huge Polish population and the same situation occurred there - Poland top in televotes but dead last in the jury voting.

    I guess this 50:50 system works, though there was quite a bit of the usual neighbour for neighbour voting. Looking forward to analyzing the results a bit more.


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    #5039
    AK333
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭AK333


    Riverdance is timeless - Nobody does Eurovision like we do - though I did enjoy the production this evening - hopefully we'll get it right next year - ditch the twee irish dancers (keep it for the interval) - the celtic theme, pick a strong song and a strong singer or for a change a good rock band - our effort this year was woeful but we should have known we were gonna crash and burn when Billy and our own Conchita had a bitch fest on LLS - keep all those has beens and wannabe's away from next years entrants. Ireland has some world renown songwriters and musicians. we can do better.


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    #5040
    Bottleopener
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    http://www.eurovision.tv/page/results?event=1893&voter=AZ

    Azerbaijan's jury votes are laughable. Click sort by average jury rank and notice how they all voted the same. Thats not a coincidence, thats blatant fixing.


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    #5041
    EB_2013
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    Had a good bit on Austria to win so was kept sweating right up until the last view votes. I thought The Netherlands was going to sneak it at times until Austria pulled clear. Didn't think much of their song though, much more preferred Austria's entry.


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