Which is better? Vaping or Smoking?

Snake · 08-05-2014 11:53PM #1

I could post this in the dedicated forums, but I suppose I'm looking for unbiased opinions. From people who are neither smokers or vapers... For those unsure of the term, a vaper is someone who uses an electronic liquid cigarette.. A smoker is a tobacco smoker.. I'm not going to give any opinion because I vape and I used to smoke

Tail Docker · 08-05-2014 11:58PM

I smoke, and I don't like vaping - found it to be worse than smokes in terms of coughs etc. Also vape-juice or whatever it's called is made in china, out of diesel and weed-killer. Ok, it might not be, but fcuked if there's any rules saying it can't be..

The Backwards Man · 08-05-2014 11:58PM

Smaping.

Hotale.com · 08-05-2014 11:59PM

A smoker's a joker.

dashcam5586 · 08-05-2014 11:59PM

As a non smoker I dont mind vaping at all. There's no smell at all and you would hardly even notice people doing it indoors.

mad muffin · 08-05-2014 11:59PM

Fapping

Chucken · 08-05-2014 11:59PM

Voking

Brego888 · 09-05-2014 12:00AM

How do you define better? Healthier, better nicotine hit, cheaper, appearance, impact on others etc.?

Personally I'd just give up both.

drunkmonkey · 09-05-2014 12:00AM

Neither is better there both for mugs.

Quitting is for winners when it comes to smoking/vaping nicotine.

*20 years a nicotine addict, free 2 years.

MayoSalmon · 09-05-2014 12:00AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

I smoke, and I don't like vaping - found it to be worse than smokes in terms of coughs etc. Also vape-juice or whatever it's called is made in china, out of diesel and weed-killer. Ok, it might not be, but fcuked if there's any rules saying it can't be..

How long did you vape for? And how long were you previously smoking for?

Sulla Felix · 09-05-2014 12:01AM

I'd like a larger range of psychoactive drugs to be available in vaping. I don't smoke, but I could dig a caffeine vape.

Apiarist · 09-05-2014 12:01AM

What do you mean by "better"?

I think smoking is better because smokers look like dragon pups soon ready to belch forth real flame.

While vapers sounds too much like vipers. And the process of vaping is so mechanical. Really, if you are poisoning yourself, do it in style!

Muise... · 09-05-2014 12:01AM

Vaping is less harmful.

Lucifer MorningStar · 09-05-2014 12:01AM

I used to be a vaper but now I'm a smoker

The Backwards Man · 09-05-2014 12:04AM

Muise... wrote: »

Vaping is less harmful.

Depends where you're sticking it really. :P

keith16 · 09-05-2014 12:06AM

Muise... wrote: »

Vaping is less harmful.

I don't believe that's been proven scientifically. Open to correction.

Snake · 09-05-2014 12:12AM

keith16 wrote: »

I don't believe that's been proven scientifically. Open to correction.

The list of ingredients are propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine.. Which can be found in tesco, so I wouldn't think it's more harmful than smoking, obviously none is better, but 2-3 natural substances versus a thousand and two poisons wins my vote..

Muise... · 09-05-2014 12:13AM

keith16 wrote: »

I don't believe that's been proven scientifically. Open to correction.

It's the smoke that causes damage, not the nicotine it carries. Replace the carrier with steam -or patches or gum - and you are reducing the harm by a large factor. What damage is caused by these alternative carriers is not yet known, but it is known to be less than smoke.

Snake · 09-05-2014 12:15AM

victor8600 wrote: »

What do you mean by "better"?

I think smoking is better because smokers look like dragon pups soon ready to belch forth real flame.

While vapers sounds too much like vipers. And the process of vaping is so mechanical. Really, if you are poisoning yourself, do it in style!

It's not very mechanical to fill it with a bit of liquid and push and hold a button for a a few seconds, the reason I like it is mostly the smell and taste are better, my lungs and body feel better, without the torment of dying for a smoke. They're a helpful bridge to the smoker who wants to quit, but like I said I'll refrain from saying much because I do both.

OldMrBrennan83 · 09-05-2014 12:16AM

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Tail Docker · 09-05-2014 12:17AM

Muise... wrote: »

Vaping is less harmful.

Yeah, it's probably good for you.. how do you know? Have people been vaping for 20 years? It takes 20 years for a smoker to be fecked on average, so I'll judge vaping in 2030, to give it a fair chance.

Snake · 09-05-2014 12:17AM

Muise... wrote: »

It's the smoke that causes damage, not the nicotine it carries. Replace the carrier with steam -or patches or gum - and you are reducing the harm by a large factor. What damage is caused by these alternative carriers is not yet known, but it is known to be less than smoke.

Nicotine is harmful as well, but it's not what causes cancer and other respiratory issues analog cigarettes cause... It's just a plant at the end of it.. An extract anyway

Muise... · 09-05-2014 12:18AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Yeah, it's probably good for you.. how do you know? Have people been vaping for 20 years? It takes 20 years for a smoker to be fecked on average, so I'll judge vaping in 2030, to give it a fair chance.

Em, because my doctor and pharmacist told me, based on their reading of papers by experts and stuff...

I said less harmful, not a fcuking elixir of life.

Snake · 09-05-2014 12:18AM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Yeah, it's probably good for you.. how do you know? Have people been vaping for 20 years? It takes 20 years for a smoker to be fecked on average, so I'll judge vaping in 2030, to give it a fair chance.

It doesn't have a list of poisons, for one. And yes that has been tested

Snake · 09-05-2014 12:21AM

Vaping has been a thing for 3 years, no known deaths as of yet, or any effects to the people who do it

Czarcasm · 09-05-2014 12:26AM

It's surely down to personal choice? People have no excuse not to be aware of the harmful effects and risks of smoking, and only a fool would argue otherwise.

That being said, I tried various vaping kits, and I still don't get the same satisfaction I get from smoking. It's like expecting a person should give up sex and substitute having sex for masturbation - the chemical release effect is similar, but you'd still prefer to be having sex.

I'd sooner just enjoy a smoke than sucking on a piece of plastic. If I want that, I'd smoke a pipe. I also don't get the same stress relieving effect from vaping that I do from smoking.

Die of increased stress, or risk dying of smoking related illness... I'm going to die eventually so I may as well take pleasure while I can enjoy it.

Snake · 09-05-2014 12:30AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

It's surely down to personal choice? People have no excuse not to be aware of the harmful effects and risks of smoking, and only a fool would argue otherwise.
That being said, I tried various vaping kits, and I still don't get the same satisfaction I get from smoking. It's like expecting a person should give up sex and substitute having sex for masturbation - the chemical release effect is similar, but you'd still prefer to be having sex.

I'd sooner just enjoy a smoke than sucking on a piece of plastic. If I want that, I'd smoke a pipe. I also don't get the same stress relieving effect from vaping that I do from smoking.

Die of increased stress, or risk dying of smoking related illness... I'm going to die eventually so I may as well take pleasure while I can enjoy it.

True, although I'd like to live a bit longer than 40 just so I could smoke, I'm comptenplating having a cigarette right now, but for my baby and my girlfriend I'm not going to do that, but of course just because I do something doesn't mean everyone will, at least you'll admit why you smoke, most (and I was one) just said ah sure I don't know

Claregirl · 09-05-2014 12:50AM

I was a heavy smoker for 20+ years and had tried everything to give up acupuncture, hypnotherapy, patches, gum, Alan Carr, pills you name it I tried it with no success - I took the plunge about 3 months ago and bought a vaping kit and have been smoke free since then

Main advantages: I no longer smell, I have more money and I'm starting to feel much better (I'm not out of breath at the top of the stairs anymore)

I aim to reduce the nicotine strength gradually until I'm no longer using nicotine and then hopefully ditch the hand mouth habit all together!

My main concern is the small amount of uncertainty on the label on my fix can I trust it? To this end I only purchase from local suppliers that I've built up a relationship with and hope they're not importing shi*e from China.

I think regulation is required solely to ensure that the e-liquid contains what it says (much like food labeling) I really don't see the benefit of regulation by tobacco / pharmacy - this will only drive up the costs and negate one of the main reasons for people switching from smoking to e-cigs / vaping.

The hysteria being whipped up in the media in relation to e-cigs / vaping concerns me also - who's driving this?? Is it tobacco industry seeing large numbers of smokers changing to vaping or is it Govt losing vast amounts of revenue from lost excise? The HSE ban is a case in point - absolutely daft in my opinion.

Gyalist · 09-05-2014 12:55AM

Smoking or vaping?

This question is akin to asking someone if they want the choice of either butter or margarine on a shit sandwich!

the_syco · 09-05-2014 01:14AM

keith16 wrote: »

I don't believe that's been proven scientifically. Open to correction.

There's nicotine in potatoes.

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I can vape before I goto the gym, and it won't affect how far I can push myself.

Cupcake_Crisis · 09-05-2014 01:44AM

As a smoker, if I was trying to quit (and I intend to) I'd rather just go cold turkey. I've seen people become completely reliant on ecigs or those vapers, and having tried them they're just not for me. I know a guy who's ecig is permanently attached to his hand. If I'm going to stop smoking I'll be stopping entirely.

Which is better? Vaping or Smoking?

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