Would you be offended...

coolbeans · 08-05-2014 11:04PM

Running Balance wrote: »

Throw a bit of abuse back and see their reaction. You'll soon find out if they are being sneaky fcukers behind it all..

But the thing is I don't consider it abusive. So why reply defensively? Should I start to be offended now?

Again, there is no apparent malice intended and the issue wouldn't have arisen had I not been so shocked at my Irish friend's reaction.

Muise... · 08-05-2014 11:05PM

ryan101 wrote: »

Just because someone might not get the insult, does not make it ok.

OP gets slagged about nationality. OP not bothered. OP's friend gets bothered. You asK OP how he would feel about a black worker getting a racist slagging. There is no way he can answer on behalf of a hypothetical black worker. This does not imply he - or anyone else - thinks it's ok.

Judgement Day · 08-05-2014 11:05PM

orangesoda wrote: »

I'm an ulsterman so don't have the stereotypical paddy brogue so i don't get this sort of abuse, I always feel I get gazed at more through airport security though

p.s. spud means tottenham hotspur fan

Pull the other one would you - your average English man or woman would identify an Ulster/Norn Iron accent as Irish.

The Th!ng · 08-05-2014 11:07PM

Put semtex in their sandwiches.

mfergus · 08-05-2014 11:08PM

Na. Take it in good spirits...
You don't want to be this ****er that cries racist when somebody mentions a different nationality...

coolbeans · 08-05-2014 11:08PM

ryan101 wrote: »

You don't get the famine reference do you ?
That's what is really funny to them, the fact you don't even get it.
Thick paddy and all that, doesn't even realise when we are insulting him.
No wonder your friend spoke up.

I really think you're stretching it now. Irish people love spuds. It's a fact, at least it was before the boom. I'm sorry but I'm a reasonably intelligent person who don't take no **** but I just can't be offended by this. I'm surprised so many of you differ.

orangesoda · 08-05-2014 11:08PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Pull the other one would you - your average English man or woman would identify an Ulster/Norn Iron accent as Irish.

Some do, some don't, some think it is Scottish or Northern Irish, it is neither, many don't know that Donegal have the same sort of accent as well as North Monaghan

coolbeans · 08-05-2014 11:09PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Pull the other one would you - your average English man or woman would identify an Ulster/Norn Iron accent as Irish.

In my experience that's true.

newmug · 08-05-2014 11:10PM

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

But what has Ireland got to do with potatoes?

You must be a foreigner if you don't know that - ya dirty foreign baxtard..........

Only joking

petrolcan · 08-05-2014 11:10PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Pull the other one would you - your average English man or woman would identify an Ulster/Norn Iron accent as Irish.

Your average English person is afraid of the Norn Iron accent.

SimonLynch · 08-05-2014 11:10PM

There's quite a lot of the old 'football casual' set still going on with that kind of ****e still. Mostly in their late 40s early 50s now, decade or two and they'll be extinct, best ignored.

ryan101 · 08-05-2014 11:11PM

coolbeans wrote: »

I really think you're stretching it now. Irish people love spuds. It's a fact, at least it was before the boom. I'm sorry but I'm a reasonably intelligent person who don't take no **** but I just can't be offended by this. I'm surprised so many of you differ.

In the way black people also love Bananna's ?
Think about what you're saying

Renegade Mechanic · 08-05-2014 11:12PM

bumper234 wrote: »

@€;r in rap songs and stuff.

Gon' bust some caps in a paddys ass,
Gon' put that Kenny paddy under the grass,
Gon' collect ma dough at the office of post,
And gather a couple fellow paddys and smoke some roach.

It ain't easy bein' 'dicted to taytos,
Cuttin' the legs of each other while we polish our halos,
Forking out through the nose for houses, food and fuel,
Only to elect what amounts to the shinier of some stools..
As a collective nation we bend over and take it,
So don't bother bein' a paddy 'cause yo ass wont make it......

strobe · 08-05-2014 11:12PM

Depends on the relationship you have with them. If your the kind of group that are all slagging each other over being ginger or Irish or welsh or fat or drinking green tea or walking that weird way or a vegetarian or one of those really shiny black black's etc then that's just the crowd, as long as its all in good spirits its just a bit of fun.

If they're just saying this stuff to you, or just saying Irish stuff, and resonding in kind when they say something wouldn't be ok, and its not the general vibe then sounds like you're a bit of a joke and a fool and they're assholes.

Like someone else said, context is everything.

The Aussie · 08-05-2014 11:13PM

Coolbeans, just have laugh back, when ever I'm called a Convict I just ask them where all the Convicts come from.

Dyr · 08-05-2014 11:14PM

Muise... wrote: »

OP gets slagged about nationality. OP not bothered. OP's friend gets bothered. You asK OP how he would feel about a black worker getting a racist slagging. There is no way he can answer on behalf of a hypothetical black worker. This does not imply he - or anyone else - thinks it's ok.

OP gets groped by co worker. OP not bothered

Doesnt change that fact that the co worker needs to be sorted out

coolbeans · 08-05-2014 11:14PM

ryan101 wrote: »

In the way black people also love Bananna's ?
Think about what you're saying

Honestly, if you have to forensically analyse a comment the way you have done to figure out whether or not it's an insult it just becomes silly. You're argument is reducing the whole thing to absurdity.

And yes, I see the oh so tenuous links you're attempting to make but it's too much to be honest.

coolbeans · 08-05-2014 11:15PM

Bambi wrote: »

OP gets groped by co worker. OP not bothered

Doesnt change that fact that the co worker needs to be sorted out

Not the same. No parallels.

Drake66 · 08-05-2014 11:16PM

You should do a Sean O'Brien on it

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/the-tullow-talent-150815.html
"Three years ago, a Leinster A selection visited their Saracens counterparts for a pre-season friendly. English international Dan Scarbrough didn’t see it as that, however, grabbing O’Brien by the throat with an accompanying invite to “F*** off back to Ireland and eat your potatoes”. An intimidating scenario for most youngsters, but not for Carlow’s O’Brien: “I’ll give ya spuds,” he said, and promptly knocked the winger out."

Muise... · 08-05-2014 11:16PM

Bambi wrote: »

OP gets groped by co worker. OP not bothered

Doesnt change that fact that the co worker needs to be sorted out

I have, on occasion, not complained about being groped. :pac:

ryan101 · 08-05-2014 11:17PM

The Aussie wrote: »

Coolbeans, just have laugh back, when ever I'm called a Convict I just ask them where all the Convicts come from.

Exceedingly bad advice in a workplace

ryan101 · 08-05-2014 11:17PM

coolbeans wrote: »

Honestly, if you have to forensically analyse a comment the way you have done to figure out whether or not it's an insult it just becomes silly. You're argument is reducing the whole thing to absurdity.

And yes, I see the oh so tenuous links you're attempting to make but it's too much to be honest.

I've seen where all this leads several times, but so be it, learn it the hard way.

The other fella · 08-05-2014 11:18PM

Are you a potato?

If not,i fail to see how it could be offensive.

Potatoeman · 08-05-2014 11:18PM

No Pants wrote: »

Never had that happen when I lived and worked over there. I did get the occasional stranger in London and Liverpool try to wind me up over the IRA, bombing, etc. but an offer to crack their head open quietened them down.

In general, I found that the English really have no idea why Irish people don't seem to like them.

Irish people are more aware of the negative history between us and the British because it's covered more in our history curriculum. It's pretty normal for nations to gloss over the negative aspects of their history too.

Shakespeare's Sister · 08-05-2014 11:22PM

Potatoeman wrote: »

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Where the hell have you been?!

http://download.lardlad.com/framegrabs/5F09/088.jpg

The Aussie · 08-05-2014 11:24PM

ryan101 wrote: »

Exceedingly bad advice in a workplace

Why, it is said to me in a workplace!!!

Some people like Coolbeans can move on without a chip log on their shoulder.

It seems to me you are carrying the burden of other generations, could be time to move on you know.

jimgoose · 08-05-2014 11:26PM

OP, build a bridge and put a slope on it.

Potatoeman · 08-05-2014 11:27PM

Magaggie wrote: »

Where the hell have you been?!

http://download.lardlad.com/framegrabs/5F09/088.jpg

Touring with U2.

Steppenwolfe · 08-05-2014 11:27PM

I was often refered to as 'murphy' or 'paddy' when I worked in England. It was only among closer work mates or friends. I never took offense as it wasn't meant maliciously. It's who says it and how they say it that makes the difference. As somebody else stated, it's all down to context.

Dyr · 08-05-2014 11:34PM

coolbeans wrote: »

Not the same. No parallels.

I'm not that familiar with english employment law but I think you'll find it is. Both would be considered types of harrasement.

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