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Would you be offended...

  • 08-05-2014 9:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭


    I've a lot of cause to be the in the UK at the moment where I interact with lots of Englanders on a daily basis. People are generally friendly and there's lots of push and shove banter when I deal with colleagues. I get called paddy, spud and people often shout "potatoes" in my wake. None of this bothers me in the slightest.
    However, when I told an Irish friend this his eyes lït up with astonishment and fury. He tells me that I'm the subject of racist abuse and that I should report it. I think that's an absurd notion. Thoughts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Most important thing: context


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    Spud, Potato, Paddy????

    I would be as offended as fcuk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Haven't read the OP but as a fully paid up member of the PC Brigade I'm going to say, "YES :mad:".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Jaysus, tell your friend never to work in England! :eek:
    My own opinion is that its not anything to be locking and loading over, give as good as you get and everythings fine:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    Englanders.












    ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    call them pommies and limeys back

    paddy mick and potato are racist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    As soon as I saw the word "spud" I started craving Taytos cheese and onion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Life is too short to be offended and I don't understand people who get offended by these things. Ive been called cnut plenty of times. Words are just words.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭Tilly


    It wouldn't offend me tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    My first thought was 'it wouldn't bother me'
    My second thought was, if I said something like that to a foreign worker in Ireland (which I wouldn't anyway) there'd be hell to pay


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I'm pretty sure that irish is classed as an ethnicity in english employment law, so yeah..they're bascially hurling racial abuse at you. Ya wont see them jokingly roaring Paki or Coon at anyone in the office


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Freddie Dodge


    Why would you continue to interact in any way with someone who abuses you and your country in such a fashion? Some sad need to be liked???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,844 ✭✭✭jackboy


    You can only get offended if you believe the insult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Do they say "no offence, mate" afterwards? Because that seems to make it OK. English friends of mine in Ireland have to put up with all sorts of anti-English sh1te, followed by "no offence, like".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Riamfada wrote: »
    Life is too short to be offended and I don't understand people who get offended by these things. Ive been called cnut plenty of times. Words are just words.

    To be fair, kun* is something I wouldn't put up with. That's proper offensive. I'm surprised that some are offended by paddy. Spud, same again. Potatoes, it's just silliness. Couldn't believe my friend's reaction. He was offended on my behalf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    coolbeans wrote: »
    people often shout "potatoes" in my wake.
    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    coolbeans wrote: »
    I've a lot of cause to be the in the UK at the moment where I interact with lots of Englanders on a daily basis. People are generally friendly and there's lots of push and shove banter when I deal with colleagues. I get called paddy, spud and people often shout "potatoes" in my wake. None of this bothers me in the slightest.
    However, when I told an Irish friend this his eyes lït up with astonishment and fury. He tells me that I'm the subject of racist abuse and that I should report it. I think that's an absurd notion. Thoughts?

    Tell your friend that Irish isn't a race so you're not being racially abused. Saying that it could be seen as inappropriate by some and offensive by others. If it doesn't bother you and you gibe the slagging back then leave it be, if it does offend you and you feel it's too much the report it. Only you can decide if it's offensive as you are on the receiving end of the banter/slagging/abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Muise... wrote: »
    Do they say "no offence, mate" afterwards? Because that seems to make it OK. English friends of mine in Ireland have to put up with all sorts of anti-English sh1te, followed by "no offence, like".

    Cork!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I think the Englanders are natural piss takers,if it's in good humour what harm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    give as good as you get and everythings fine:D

    Exceedingly bad advice for a workplace.
    The day they do move onto making remarks you personally find offensive, and sooner or that type of person always does, then you won't have a leg to stand on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Why?

    Because I'm Irish I suppose. I see no malice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Cork!:D

    Galway! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Muise... wrote: »
    Galway! :D

    Anywhere not Dublin :D


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I was once working in the North with a colleague from the UK.

    I'd to turn around and tell him that wearing a union jack as a belt buckle was a bad idea.

    Some people can just be unaware of their actions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    It would get old fast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I've spent a fair bit of my time around different parts of England over the years and I've never once been called any of those things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    For thé record, I'm not in the least bit offended. My friend on the other hand...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    coolbeans wrote: »
    Because I'm Irish I suppose. I see no malice.
    But what has Ireland got to do with potatoes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    But what has Ireland got to do with potatoes?

    Famine and suchlike. The best way to insult someone is to hide it in 'humourous' remarks.
    "Ginger haired tosser" is a subtle English favourite against anyone having an Irish/Scottish trait.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    I work over there a fair bit and get called Paddy by the odd knuckle dragger - in a work setting. They thereby die to me and we're done. They cease to exist as far as I'm concerned. But I smile as they say it. It's a lack of respect and rude, simple as. Outside work, fire ahead, like I care brit boy. Context is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Anywhere not Dublin :D

    Coote Hill, like :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    Why would you continue to interact in any way with someone who abuses you and your country in such a fashion? Some sad need to be liked???

    Don't be projecting your inferiority complex onto me thanks. As I said, I'm not offended. The issue is my offended irish friend who does not work with me incidentally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,662 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Here Paddy, can you tell me which way it is to Cork?

    How'd ya know my name was Paddy?

    I guessed.

    Well ya can guess your way to Cork too.


    I work in England, get called Paddy the odd time. Does not bother me at all, I am not easily offended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    I await our resident Republican bretheren to tell us how it's just another way for the "brits" to keep the Irish down and rabble rabble rabble 800 years rabble this slagging you off is politically motivated to stop sinn fein from winning the European elections.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    coolbeans wrote: »
    I get called paddy, spud and people often shout "potatoes" in my wake.
    Never had that happen when I lived and worked over there. I did get the occasional stranger in London and Liverpool try to wind me up over the IRA, bombing, etc. but an offer to crack their head open quietened them down.

    In general, I found that the English really have no idea why Irish people don't seem to like them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    #bantz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    I'm an ulsterman so don't have the stereotypical paddy brogue so i don't get this sort of abuse, I always feel I get gazed at more through airport security though

    p.s. spud means tottenham hotspur fan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    More than anything, I'd find it very tedious and unfunny. I'd probably just exaggeratedly yawn every time they start that kind of crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    If you don't feel offended then don't be. I think its silly the stuff English people come out with, could they not at least be funny. Oh potatoes.. oh really hilarious there... I would be more offended at the stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭FreshCoffee


    For some strange reason I'm far more offended by the Taoiseach and a senior minister referring in a derogatory fashion to Irish people as 'Paddy'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,679 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    It does sound like you are the workplace whipping boy tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    All a bit of fun I would have guessed. Unless it is Jim Davidson saying it to you. There's plenty of ammo to get them back with anyway. An even bigger problem with binge drinking than the famously drunk irish, and their teenage pregnancy rates etc. They also like doing little irish accents and saying things like; "to be sure to be sure", to you as well. We're surrounded by their media so we know everything there is to know about them but they don't have a clue about us when you think about it.

    Glazers Out!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    coolbeans wrote: »
    To be fair, kun* is something I wouldn't put up with. That's proper offensive. I'm surprised that some are offended by paddy. Spud, same again. Potatoes, it's just silliness. Couldn't believe my friend's reaction. He was offended on my behalf.

    Would you think shouting banana's at a black lad all day was ok ?
    To the type of person that does this, it would be even 'funnier' if the black lad didn't get the insult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 194 ✭✭Freddie Dodge


    coolbeans wrote: »
    Don't be projecting your inferiority complex onto me thanks. As I said, I'm not offended. The issue is my offended irish friend who does not work with me incidentally.

    No inferiority complex here. As I said, - if you're afraid that they wont like you for standing up for yourself, - thats your problem.

    As another poster said, they'd be dead to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    For some strange reason I'm far more offended by the Taoiseach and a senior minister referring in a derogatory fashion to Irish people as 'Paddy'.

    @€;r in rap songs and stuff. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭coolbeans


    It does sound like you are the workplace whipping boy tbh.

    Haha, thanks for your concern but I'm really not. I'm a big boy now well able to look after myself when appropriate.
    I was just wondering on an idle Thursday evening if anyone shares my friend's opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    coolbeans wrote: »
    I interact with lots of Englanders

    LOLOLOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,420 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    coolbeans wrote: »
    I've a lot of cause to be the in the UK at the moment where I interact with lots of Englanders on a daily basis. People are generally friendly and there's lots of push and shove banter when I deal with colleagues. I get called paddy, spud and people often shout "potatoes" in my wake. None of this bothers me in the slightest.
    However, when I told an Irish friend this his eyes lït up with astonishment and fury. He tells me that I'm the subject of racist abuse and that I should report it. I think that's an absurd notion. Thoughts?

    Thoughts ? Hmmm , with your name being coolbeans and mention of potatoes and spuds , do you work in a fruit and veg shop ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    coolbeans wrote: »
    Haha, thanks for your concern but I'm really not. I'm a big boy now well able to look after myself when appropriate.
    I was just wondering on an idle Thursday evening if anyone shares my friend's opinion.

    Would you think shouting bananas at a black worker was funny ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Running Balance


    Throw a bit of abuse back and see their reaction. You'll soon find out if they are being sneaky fcukers behind it all..


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