Ming: Garda in to heroin dealing

WilyCoyote · 08-05-2014 06:56PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Well the government, media and general public have bought into and turned a blind eye to the gardai inflating their figures for years; speed traps in ridiculous places, outrageous "street values" being placed on drug busts, reclassification of crimes to massage stats....next logical step was to manufacturer fake crimes.

I'm inclined to agree here. The Garda PR machine hypes the stories. Why not say the weight of the drugs found? Not as eye-catching as a seven figure number. Lets face it, if they are so successful at catching dealers, how come you can buy anything you want within a hundred yards of O'Connell St? The investigations regarding drugs and money going missing from police stations gets pushed to the back boiler pretty quickly.
I hope that Noirín O’Sullivan does not tread the path of some of those earlier Mandarins. The last one fell on his sword but another one retired with a lot of unanswered questions hanging in the air.

rubadub · 08-05-2014 07:00PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yeah but..., oh I dunno, does this look like a guy you would trust?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/media/images/l/lukeMingFlanagan2013_large.jpg

Can you post up a picture of a face that you think is trustworthy?

I am not talking of a famous person, I am just wondering why you seem to think that photo depicts an untrustworthy person, and also what features you would think trustworthy?

drunkmonkey wrote: »

may he who has not sinned throw the first stone

Why not? if we did that nothing would ever come out or be reported, I would guess every single person I know of has broken the law. Should I not ring the gardai to report being mugged & stabbed because I illegally jaywalked across the road to try and avoid the mugger, I wouldn't want to look like a hypocrite, now would I :rolleyes:

Andy-Pandy · 08-05-2014 07:17PM

Although I completely disagree with Ming on a number of issues (bog cutting) , I think he has proven himself to be an excellent td and represents his constituents better than most. He seems to me to be in politics for the right reasons, I wish there were more like him in the Dail.

Tail Docker · 08-05-2014 07:26PM

Unfounded, unsubstantiated, scurrilous and malicious Whispers have it that Dublin city center Heroin trade might not be entirely AGS free either. I find this incredible and unbelievable.

Boombastic · 08-05-2014 07:30PM

Tail Docker wrote: »

Unfounded, unsubstantiated, scurrilous and malicious Whispers have it that Dublin city center Heroin trade might not be entirely AGS free either. I find this incredible and unbelievable.

I've seen the needle and the damage done, there's a little part of it in everyone

hfallada · 08-05-2014 07:30PM

Who honestly cares about crime figures. There is dozens of phones and bike stolen everyday in Dublin. But not a single person in the Gardai or Government could care less. Not one TD or local Councillors every talks about reducing crime in Dublin. They are generally more concerned over something useless but nice like a dodgy footpath.

Conmaicne Mara · 08-05-2014 07:31PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

how come you can buy anything you want within a hundred yards of O'Connell St?

O'Connell street? Lol, try every village and town in the country.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 08-05-2014 07:51PM

If anyone else other than that twat Flanagan (or his arsehole comrade Wallarse for that matter) had brought this to the attention of the dail, it would have given the issue more credence but it's just hard to listen to a pot head with a high pitched girls voice with anything other than complete an utter contempt.

Flanagan the sleazy little junky weasel is like a little child taking great pleasure out of the whole thing and for that reason I hope the story is found to be untrue and the little fcukwit turd is left with egg on his face.

My name is URL · 08-05-2014 07:54PM

CJC999 wrote: »

If anyone else other than that twat Flanagan (or his arsehole comrade Wallarse for that matter) had brought this to the attention of the dail, it would have given the issue more credence but it's just hard to listen to a pot head with a high pitched girls voice with anything other than complete an utter contempt.

Flanagan the sleazy little junky weasel is like a little child taking great pleasure out of the whole thing and for that reason I hope the story is found to be untrue and the little fcukwit turd is left with egg on his face.

You sound like the sort of delightful fellow that might tie a dead rat to a whistleblowers door :rolleyes:

Cee-Jay-Cee · 08-05-2014 08:01PM

My name is URL wrote: »

You sound like the sort of delightful fellow that might tie a dead rat to a whistleblowers door :rolleyes:

No quite the contrary. I commend the whistleblower for his bravery in coming forward considering the ****e the other two had to endure. It's just such a pity that it was a slimeball like Flanagan that got to announce it to the nation.

Tail Docker · 08-05-2014 08:09PM

CJC999 wrote: »

If anyone else other than that twat Flanagan (or his arsehole comrade Wallarse for that matter) had brought this to the attention of the dail, it would have given the issue more credence but it's just hard to listen to a pot head with a high pitched girls voice with anything other than complete an utter contempt.

Flanagan the sleazy little junky weasel is like a little child taking great pleasure out of the whole thing and for that reason I hope the story is found to be untrue and the little fcukwit turd is left with egg on his face.

So, just to get it straight, you're not Mings biggest fan?

Boaty · 08-05-2014 08:11PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Well the guard is question is based in At loan.

Yeah but he was in a different station before that.

My name is URL · 08-05-2014 08:13PM

CJC999 wrote: »

No quite the contrary. I commend the whistleblower for his bravery in coming forward considering the ****e the other two had to endure. It's just such a pity that it was a slimeball like Flanagan that got to announce it to the nation.

I'm not sure why the man draws such ire from you. Calling him names and mocking the tone of his voice comes across as very childish.

Why does it matter who announces it to the country? It speaks volumes that whistle-blowers feel comfortable in confiding in him rather than in government ministers. There's a very apparent reason for it too.

rubadub · 08-05-2014 08:20PM

CJC999 wrote: »

Flanagan the sleazy little junky weasel

Jaysus, Ming is on the junk now? never knew that. Maybe the gardai should have a rethink about not using that "gateway drug" stuff they thought was nonsense.

I wonder if it was Ming's own heroin dealer who tipped him off.

smellmepower · 08-05-2014 08:25PM

So some of the pointlessly small amount street posession charges that the Guards bring to court aren't even the product of at least some basic level of police work?very embarrassing if true.

They allowed some shower of clowns to join AGS during the boom times in fairness.

nice_very · 08-05-2014 08:40PM

smellmepower wrote: »

So some of the pointlessly small amount street posession charges that the Guards bring to court aren't even the product of at least some basic level of police work?very embarrassing if true.

They allowed some shower of clowns to join AGS during the boom times in fairness.

fixed

AnonoBoy · 08-05-2014 08:40PM

The man doesn't wear a tie and never worked as an auctioneer - how can we trust him?

Guy:Incognito · 08-05-2014 08:50PM

realies wrote: »

I can't vote for him but he seems a bit better than most of them and I love his direct no nonsense questions and answers.

Except when hes caught with his pants round his ankles in a penalty points scandal.

As for the story itself, why do the Gards need to coerce anyone? If the commissioner handed me a badge in the morning I could get him 20 or 30 arrests and fines for all manner of offences while still going about my business every day. They must be putting more effort in to manufacturing the stats than if they just took a wander around and arrested people.

Boombastic · 08-05-2014 08:55PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Except when hes caught with his pants round his ankles in a penalty points scandal.

As for the story itself, why do the Gards need to coerce anyone? If the commissioner handed me a badge in the morning I could get him 20 or 39 arrests and fines for all manner of offences while still going about my business every day. They must be putting more effort in to manufacturing the stats than if they just took a wander around and arrested people.

their too busy shooting up in the cells it seems than to be on the beat

you may get 20-39 arrests, but these criminals are too crafty for our current lads

Frankie Lee · 08-05-2014 09:09PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yeah, say someone like Michael Martin.

Always stood up against corruption.

Him and all his honourable mates in FF.

They used to have their ard fheis in Jim Mansfield's hotel didn't they.

EyeSight · 08-05-2014 09:31PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Except when hes caught with his pants round his ankles in a penalty points scandal.

As for the story itself, why do the Gards need to coerce anyone? If the commissioner handed me a badge in the morning I could get him 20 or 30 arrests and fines for all manner of offences while still going about my business every day. They must be putting more effort in to manufacturing the stats than if they just took a wander around and arrested people.

In Athlone it may be harder than in Dublin City - Where it seems there is an initiative to ignore drug use :P

This makes no sense to me. How do they coerce people into buying drugs and then arrest them? Do they mean an undercover sting? Because they should be happening

Aidric · 08-05-2014 09:33PM

What is the street value of Ming's claims?

rubadub · 08-05-2014 09:40PM

Aidric wrote: »

What is the street value of Ming's claims?

Real street value or garda spokesman street value? The gardai usually multiply by 10.

Guy:Incognito · 08-05-2014 09:46PM

Aidric wrote: »

What is the street value of Ming's claims?

3 points.

Aidric · 08-05-2014 09:49PM

rubadub wrote: »

Real street value or garda spokesman street value? The gardai usually multiply by 10.

exactly why I asked..10 bangers with a street value of 200euro..eh wut?

Duck's hoop · 08-05-2014 09:49PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

This is the nub of it, may he who has not sinned throw the first stone, a bit of history ming would be wise not to ignore.
He gets busted for pot and he's out of a job.

The story is about the police selling heroin to people in order to catch them in possession.

Wtf are you on about?

The Domonator · 08-05-2014 09:51PM

Banjo String wrote: »

Athlone has its very own Hamsterdam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo

roboshatner · 08-05-2014 10:01PM

Does not surprise me in the least.

They were prob watching bad boys 1 the film one night in the station....and thought you know what would be a great idea.

zen260 · 08-05-2014 10:03PM

well done to ming...if there were more people like him in government these pieces of s**t garda would be held accountable,,,there worse than the mafia ever were,,callinhan was another hitler slapping his leather glove off his hand as he walked with that other slime ball shatter,,,people like mc cabe should be given a medal for exposing these pathogens,,and this is only the tip of the iceberg,,,

zen260 · 08-05-2014 10:07PM

Andy-Pandy wrote: »

Although I completely disagree with Ming on a number of issues (bog cutting) , I think he has proven himself to be an excellent td and represents his constituents better than most. He seems to me to be in politics for the right reasons, I wish there were more like him in the Dail.

couldnt agree more

Ming: Garda in to heroin dealing

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