Ming: Garda in to heroin dealing

Kermit.de.frog · 08-05-2014 05:20PM #1

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-linked-to-heroin-dealing-claims-flanagan-629960.html

The gardaí are getting young ones to buy drugs so they can catch them and boost the crime detection figures according to Ming "cannabis" Flanagan who's new partner in crime is another whistleblower dishing more dirt on our glorious police force.

I'm just not sure Mick or Ming have the credibility with this sort of thing.

Boombastic · 08-05-2014 05:21PM

kieran boylan

<< -sorry wrong thread >>

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller · 08-05-2014 05:22PM

Flash Gordon won't like this.

Conmaicne Mara · 08-05-2014 05:22PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm just not sure Mick or Ming have the credibility with this sort of thing.

I wouldn't be so sure. Plenty of wrong'uns in the Gardaí, which is unfortunate for the good ones.

Nodin · 08-05-2014 05:26PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-linked-to-heroin-dealing-claims-flanagan-629960.html

The gardaí are getting young ones to buy drugs so they can catch them and boost the crime detection figures according to Ming "cannabis" Flanagan who's new partner in crime is another whistleblower dishing more dirt on our glorious police force.

I'm just not sure Mick or Ming have the credibility with this sort of thing.

He's reporting what a whistleblower has told him, so I don't see why the knock at "credibility".

"High-ranking Garda officers were involved in a ploy to coerce citizens into buying hard drugs to boost crime detection figures, the Dáil has heard.
Independent TD Luke “Ming” Flanagan said a new whistleblower from within the Garda has come forward with a fresh dossier of alleged corruption linking the force to heroin dealing.
“We have a situation here where heroin dealing and the Garda Siochana are being connected,” he said.
In the Dáil, Mr Flanagan said Garda Nicky Keogh – based at Athlone Garda station – has handed the evidence over to retired judge Patrick McMahon, an interim watchdog charged with overseeing whistleblower allegations."
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-linked-to-heroin-dealing-claims-flanagan-629960.html

My name is URL · 08-05-2014 05:36PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm just not sure Mick or Ming have the credibility with this sort of thing.

Well it's not as if Flanagan is the one coming up with this stuff. It's based on what serving members of AGS have told him.. so it would be unwise to dismiss it as not being credible. We've seen that what whistleblowers have claimed so far is fairly damn credible!

Lucifer MorningStar · 08-05-2014 05:37PM

Wouldn't be surprised tbh

ScumLord · 08-05-2014 05:40PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm just not sure Mick or Ming have the credibility with this sort of thing.

Indeed, it should be ignored until someone else brings it up.

Kermit.de.frog · 08-05-2014 05:47PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Indeed, it should be ignored until someone else brings it up.

Yeah but..., oh I dunno, does this look like a guy you would trust?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/media/images/l/lukeMingFlanagan2013_large.jpg

Son Of A Vidic · 08-05-2014 05:50PM

Lucifer MorningStar wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised tbh

Nor would I.

sabat · 08-05-2014 05:52PM

If Ming never knocked out a few ten-spots of sh1t soap bar wrapped in the foil off a Johnny Blue pack back in the day I'll eat my hat.

Banjo String · 08-05-2014 05:53PM

Athlone has its very own Hamsterdam?

suicide_circus · 08-05-2014 05:57PM

Well the government, media and general public have bought into and turned a blind eye to the gardai inflating their figures for years; speed traps in ridiculous places, outrageous "street values" being placed on drug busts, reclassification of crimes to massage stats....next logical step was to manufacturer fake crimes.

My name is URL · 08-05-2014 05:57PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yeah but..., oh I dunno, does this look like a guy you would trust?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/media/images/l/lukeMingFlanagan2013_large.jpg

I'd trust him before I'd trust most of the suits in any of the parties!

premierstone · 08-05-2014 05:59PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yeah but..., oh I dunno, does this look like a guy you would trust?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/media/images/l/lukeMingFlanagan2013_large.jpg

What has trusting Ming got to do with anything, he has merely commented on information a serving member of An Garda Siochana has provided, are you sugggesting that Ming somehow put him up to it?

Lenin Skynard · 08-05-2014 06:04PM

Only eight posts and OP already throws the actual issue out the window to slag off Ming's appearance.

Zebra3 · 08-05-2014 06:04PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Indeed, it should be ignored until someone else brings it up.

Yeah, say someone like Michael Martin.

Always stood up against corruption.

Him and all his honourable mates in FF.

Sunnyisland · 08-05-2014 06:08PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Yeah but..., oh I dunno, does this look like a guy you would trust?

http://www.breakingnews.ie/media/images/l/lukeMingFlanagan2013_large.jpg

Ming Flanagan won a seat in the 31st Dáil in the Roscommon–South Leitrim constituency in the 2011 general election, one of twenty members of the New Vision alliance of independent candidates.[9][20]

He received 8,925 (18.8%) first preference votes, and was elected to the first seat with 12,149 votes on the fourth count, while the two incumbent Fine Gael TDs were elected on the sixth count. Neither of the two Fianna Fáil candidates managed to retain the seat of their retiring party colleague, Michael Finneran.

Upon election Flanagan took a 50% salary cut and urged his fellow TDs to follow suit.[21][22]

Following his election to the Dáil, Flanagan nominated independent John Murphy to replace him on Roscommon County Council.[23]

I can't vote for him but he seems a bit better than most of them and I love his direct no nonsense questions and answers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_'Ming'_Flanagan

Spring Onion · 08-05-2014 06:11PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/gardai-linked-to-heroin-dealing-claims-flanagan-629960.html

The gardaí are getting young ones to buy drugs so they can catch them and boost the crime detection figures according to Ming "cannabis" Flanagan who's new partner in crime is another whistleblower dishing more dirt on our glorious police force.

I'm just not sure Mick or Ming have the credibility with this sort of thing.

I would well believe it. A guard friend of mine told me last year that he knows other newish guards who would happily take a bribe if offered at the side of the road. He said if you were stopped at the side of the road for mobile phone usage or speeding and you were discrete about it (e.g. "is that your €50 on the ground there guard?"), you would have a decent chance of "getting off" (no points, no €80 fine).
He told me not to try it with older guards or very green guards (straight out of Templemore) or traffic corp guards who may come in from outside the county. He said a lot of 30-40 year old guards are struggling with negative equity, reduced overtime etc and see it as a nixer.
I haven't tried it...yet.

Gummy Panda · 08-05-2014 06:14PM

Dective Gerry Lynch wouldn't be happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZY2Hzn3kWs

Dont be at yourself · 08-05-2014 06:17PM

It's not like the gardaí have to look far to find actual criminals buying and selling drugs, so why would they do this?

drunkmonkey · 08-05-2014 06:17PM

sabat wrote: »

If Ming never knocked out a few ten-spots of sh1t soap bar wrapped in the foil off a Johnny Blue pack back in the day I'll eat my hat.

This is the nub of it, may he who has not sinned throw the first stone, a bit of history ming would be wise not to ignore.
He gets busted for pot and he's out of a job.

downonthefarm · 08-05-2014 06:20PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

This is the nub of it, may he who has not sinned throw the first stone, a bit of history ming would be wise not to ignore.
He gets busted for pot and he's out of a job.

He wouldn't be stupid enough to have it in the house
Anyway he only smokes it where it is legal

drunkmonkey · 08-05-2014 06:23PM

downonthefarm wrote: »

He wouldn't be stupid enough to have it in the house
Anyway he only smokes it where it is legal

Do you honesty believe he is flying to holland every time he wants a stone? Not a hope, probably explains why he wants to get to Europe though.

Arthur Beesley · 08-05-2014 06:33PM

Can we infer from this outburst that Mick 'Scarecrow' Wallace has been caught red handed and his friend is creating an alibi?

Lenin Skynard · 08-05-2014 06:33PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Do you honesty believe he is flying to holland every time he wants a stone? Not a hope, probably explains why he wants to get to Europe though.

His whole election campaign is an elaborate ruse to smoke a few joints eh? Nice work.

Boombastic · 08-05-2014 06:35PM

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

It's not like the gardaí have to look far to find actual criminals buying and selling drugs, so why would they do this?

The criminals are too clever

Zebra3 · 08-05-2014 06:37PM

Spring Onion wrote: »

I would well believe it. A guard friend of mine told me last year that he knows other newish guards who would happily take a bribe if offered at the side of the road. He said if you were stopped at the side of the road for mobile phone usage or speeding and you were discrete about it (e.g. "is that your €50 on the ground there guard?"), you would have a decent chance of "getting off" (no points, no €80 fine).

What is discrete about that?

Boaty · 08-05-2014 06:49PM

What station is he claiming the allegations happened at?

suicide_circus · 08-05-2014 06:51PM

Boaty wrote: »

What station is he claiming the allegations happened at?

Well the guard is question is based in At loan.

Boombastic · 08-05-2014 06:55PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Well the guard is question is based in At loan.

At loan of a 50?

I think i'm getting the hang of this discreet bribe lingo, yo!

Ming: Garda in to heroin dealing

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