Alan Shatter's time could be up

drunkmonkey · 04-05-2014 04:14AM

Did McCabe and Wallace not break Data Comission laws on a spectacular scale compared to Shatter.
If shatter goes down for this the whistleblowers will have to be prosecuted and rightly so.

WilyCoyote · 04-05-2014 04:19AM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Did McCabe and Wallace not break Data Comission laws on a spectacular scale compared to Shatter.
If shatter goes down for this the whistleblowers will have to be prosecuted and rightly so.

You're comparing Oranges with Orangutans. But nice try!

drunkmonkey · 04-05-2014 04:20AM

Shatter being the orange

My name is URL · 04-05-2014 01:05PM

Funny how there's no mention of this on RTE. Our justice minister found guilty of committing a crime and it's not even newsworthy?!

Boombastic · 04-05-2014 01:54PM

His time was up long ago and he's still there

I'd be surprised if anything is done about this apart from 'lessons will be learned, yadda, yarda, yadda'

mikom · 04-05-2014 03:03PM

Smokescreen time FG.
White poweder in envelopes is not enough.
Expect a story to break tomorrow about how a big crate was posted to Shatters office containing Fr Jack in a Nazi officers uniform.

Muise... · 04-05-2014 03:13PM

WilyCoyote wrote: »

Why stop with Shatter? Get the rest of the rotten scumbags out.
"DoyouknowwhoIam" is one of the elite who thought themselves above the law.
Still, good news for the local off-licence as he and Carol drown their sorrows in the safe confines behind those robust pillars that entry their estate. This episode will lower the tone of the area and canny buyers who bought in there 15 to 20 years ago might now be prompted to sell up before any more yobs are uncovered.
We await the usual backslapping at his retirement as other gombeen men eagerly try on the anti slip gloves before looking up the greasy pole.
I assume the "want to spend more time in Florida with my family" will be trotted out.

הבה נגילה

suicide_circus wrote: »

Will he accuse the DPC of antisemitism?

WilyCoyote wrote: »

I doubt it. Just as the Irish people take no nonsense from Pavee Point - because of their habitual bleatings ........ the Sons Of David are regarded as a boring lot with narcissistic and crazy beliefs.
After all, if you portray yourself as one of the chosen people (by Yahweh) the CMH, Dundrum would be more suitable address than Ballinteer.

Are you two pre-empting deflecting accusations of anti-semitism by actually being anti-semitic? Well fcuking done. :mad:

suicide_circus · 04-05-2014 03:30PM

Muise... wrote: »

Are you two pre-empting deflecting accusations of anti-semitism by actually being anti-semitic? Well fcuking done. :mad:

Eh...no? Calm dowm there schindler

Muise... · 04-05-2014 03:33PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Eh...no? Calm dowm their schindler

Well, at least I know you're not a grammar Nazi...

suicide_circus · 04-05-2014 03:33PM

Damn ninja edit fail
also, spelling mistakes are not grammar mistakes

Aongus Von Bismarck · 04-05-2014 03:59PM

I'm sure the usual shower will be delighted with the news.

Total storm in a teacup if you ask me.

My name is URL · 04-05-2014 04:29PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I'm sure the usual shower will be delighted with the news.

Total storm in a teacup if you ask me.

Bollocks. What do you mean by the 'usual shower'? Those that don't like the idea of a minister of justice breaking the law and using his position to discredit political opponents?

As for it being a storm in a teacup.. Shatter called for the resignation of O'Dea after he disclosed confidential information that was furnished to his as MoJ... the hypocritical little scuzzball should have been sacked the day after he decided to do the same thing himself.

“What Minister O’Dea admitted yesterday is that he willingly and publicly discussed, for his own electoral gain, confidential information furnished to him by a member of An Garda Síochána. Such conduct is entirely unacceptable by any minister in any Government. Such conduct by a Minister for Defence, part of whose constitutional duty is to secure the security of the State, renders the Minster unfit for Cabinet office.

“No member of the gardaí, nor any member of the Defence Forces, can now in any way be assured that confidential information furnished to this minister will not be misused and be made public. The Minister s position is no longer defensible, and it is a sad reflection on the judgment of both the Taoiseach and the Green members of Government, that he remains in Cabinet"

Seaneh · 04-05-2014 04:41PM

Using or Disclosing confidential information my a minister in relation to another person or persons for personal or political gain should be an offence punishable by several years in jail.

Aongus Von Bismarck · 04-05-2014 04:47PM

You'd want to be very naive not to think that this kind of thing happens all the time.

The vast majority of people aren't going to care about this minor transgression.

I'm not even a FGer, and I don't give a hoot.

mikom · 04-05-2014 04:55PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

You'd want to be very naive not to think that this kind of thing happens all the time.

The vast majority of people aren't going to care about this minor transgression.

Bollox.......you'd care if private details were revealed on national TV about you ......... Mr anonymous poster.
Can I have your real name........ shur no one would care.

Seaneh wrote: »

Using or Disclosing confidential information my a minister in relation to another person or persons for personal or political gain should be an offence punishable by several years in jail.

Not alone the Minister for justice, who also has a legal practice.

AllGunsBlazing · 04-05-2014 04:57PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

You'd want to be very naive not to think that this kind of thing happens all the time.

The vast majority of people aren't going to care about this minor transgression.

I'm not even a FGer, and I don't give a hoot.

If it were a minor transgression that no one cared about then it would have died on the vine some time ago. And as for it being commonplace; no better time to bring such underhand behaviour to an end by setting an example in this instance.

My name is URL · 04-05-2014 05:25PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

You'd want to be very naive not to think that this kind of thing happens all the time.

The vast majority of people aren't going to care about this minor transgression.

I'm not even a FGer, and I don't give a hoot.

That's because the vast majority of people are ignorant fools that don't care about anything that doesn't directly affect them. Thankfully there's enough people that do care to put a dent in FG's support base if they decide to do nothing about it or continue on as if nothing happened.

He has been found guilty of committing a fairly serious crime (given his position and responsibility) and is now likely to be hit with a huge civil case which could last months. I don't think FG are going to want that lingering over them.. and Labour certainly won't want to be associated with him now. This together with the fact that two reports are due to be published in the coming days (GSOC bugging and the McCabe report) puts him in a fairly precarious position right now with an election only a fortnight away. And with all the talk from government over the last few days about how nobody, politicians included, are above the law.. they can't really be seen to be coming out in support of a criminal without making themselves look like the gobdaws that many people already see them as.

Dyr · 04-05-2014 06:22PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

You'd want to be very naive not to think that this kind of thing happens all the time.

The vast majority of people aren't going to care about this minor transgression.

I'm not even a FGer, and I don't give a hoot.

course you arent sweetheart

Aongus Von Bismarck · 04-05-2014 06:39PM

Bambi wrote: »

course you arent sweetheart

My support for FF is on the record on this site sweetcheeks.

Seaneh · 04-05-2014 06:47PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

My support for FF is on the record on this site sweetcheeks.

An FF voter not seeing political corruption and abuse of power as a big deal.

Well colour me shocked!

suicide_circus · 04-05-2014 06:56PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

My support for FF is on the record on this site sweetcheeks.

Scarlet for ye

Aongus Von Bismarck · 04-05-2014 06:58PM

The internet seems to be a hotbed for shinners, peoplebeforeprofit, socialists and other assorted lunatics. Thankfully their rabid online support doesn't translate into reality.

My name is URL · 04-05-2014 07:02PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

The internet seems to be a hotbed for shinners, peoplebeforeprofit, socialists and other assorted lunatics. Thankfully their rabid online support doesn't translate into reality.

Yes it does :pac:

In percentage terms Fine Gael’s popular support, measured by the four recent polls, stands at 25%, compared to 36% in 2011 ( a drop of 11%); Labour is at 8% compared to 20% ( a drop of 12%); Fianna Fáil at 23% compared to 17% (a gain of 6%); Sinn Féin at 21% compared to 10% ( a gain of 11%) and Others at 23% compared to 17% ( a gain of 6%).

http://www.rte.ie/blogs/news-blog/2014/05/04/the-sum-of-all-polls/

mikom · 04-05-2014 07:14PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

My support for FF is on the record on this site sweetcheeks.

Sorry for your troubles........... and give my regards to Sarge.

RobbingBandit · 04-05-2014 07:25PM

Gerry Adams is headline news on RTÉ also more lies about no cuts in Welfare or Education from Labour, no mention of Shatter though, Vote Fine Gael, but not Labour or Sinn Féin seems to be the message RTÉ are giving out.

K.Flyer · 06-05-2014 05:09PM

NewsTalk news bulletin has said that according to the Data Commissioner, Alan Shatter DID break the the law regarding the disclosure of Mick Wallace's personal information.

So what next for the teflon coated minister??

Now on the RTE web site..
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0506/615610-data-protection-law/?noredirection=true

The Data Protection Commissioner has found that Minister for Justice Alan Shatter broke the law by disclosing personal information about independent TD Mick Wallace.Last May, Mr Shatter revealed on RTÉ's Prime Time that Mr Wallace had been cautioned by gardaí for using his mobile phone while driving.

My name is URL · 06-05-2014 05:18PM

While the minister has been found to have breached the Data Protection Acts, he has not committed an offence and is not subject to any penalty under the acts.

How is that? If you break a act of law shouldn't you face a penalty for doing so? =/

AlekSmart · 06-05-2014 05:24PM

K.Flyer wrote: »

NewsTalk news bulletin has said that according to the Data Commissioner, Alan Shatter DID break the the law regarding the disclosure of Mick Wallace's personal information.

So what next for the teflon coated minister??

Now on the RTE web site..
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0506/615610-data-protection-law/?noredirection=true

Ah yes Ted,but it's not really a LAW he broke...it was a little law...y'know not a rail-e one.....

While the minister has been found to have breached the Data Protection Acts, he has NOT committed an offence and is not subject to any penalty under the acts.

So...on the one hand.......and yet,on the other hand....I just dunno.....:(

uck51js9zml2yt · 06-05-2014 05:29PM

pablo128 wrote: »

So Wallace could clean him out in court. I wonder has Shatter pissed off any judges lately?

Will he pay back the millions he stole from us when he withheld his Vat from the money he gets from shatter?

Muise... · 06-05-2014 05:31PM

Mark Shy Lamb wrote: »

Will he pay back the millions he stole from us when he withheld his Vat from the money he gets from shatter?

Best case scenario: they cancel each other out and we start again.

Alan Shatter's time could be up

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