Starving children of Africa TV ads

Boombastic · 02-05-2014 11:36PM

Should stop funding them altogether, we are not helping

Bongalongherb · 02-05-2014 11:45PM

I put a lot of blame towards the environmentalists for not allowing these poor folk to use mains electricity. The folk, and hospital doctors over there are told that they will be given a solar panel, as it is more environmentally friendly they say than using modern electrical systems, but the solar panel can only store enough power for one thing only... like a fridge with medicine's or they are told to shut the fridge power off and use it for lighting, as both cannot be used at the same time.

These environmentalists are the people holding back these poor people from progressing to the state of the rest of us in a modern world. Water is another problem for sure, but for another day.

catallus · 02-05-2014 11:56PM

Blaming environmentalists is a bit simplistic; they are symptomatic of the wider problem of institutionalised racism which is being foisted on the nascent governments.

darkpagandeath · 02-05-2014 11:58PM

Giving money to countries with their own space programs or buying navy fighter planes that are land locked or Local officials that say the money was resting in my account solves nothing. Apparently there have been famines in Africa for as long as I can remember at least 30 years, And not governments or warlords and such causing the problems. And I would be very surprised if even 10c in every Euro gets to the destination.

Snake · 02-05-2014 11:59PM

Magaggie wrote: »

I guess lack of education/lack of access to contraception.

Actually they have a lot of children because the chances of one of family surviving is higher than having no children...

Mickey H · 03-05-2014 12:02AM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

The benefits of not having a TV-set, happy days, no adverts of any kind.

What's your furniture pointed at??

Shakespeare's Sister · 03-05-2014 12:19AM

retrogamefan wrote: »

Actually they have a lot of children because the chances of one of family surviving is higher than having no children...

Maybe so.

But saying they shouldn't have children because of the financial strain is comparing them to people in this country, who have access to education and contraception, which is pointless. It's not comparing like with like; it's a very different society, where those things are not to be taken for granted, like here.

Bongalongherb · 03-05-2014 12:23AM

catallus wrote: »

Blaming environmentalists is a bit simplistic; they are symptomatic of the wider problem of institutionalised racism which is being foisted on the nascent governments.

There is nothing simplistic about it, look into it yourself to see how nasty it is.

Snake · 03-05-2014 12:25AM

Magaggie wrote: »

Maybe so.

But saying they shouldn't have children because of the financial strain is comparing them to people in this country, who have access to education and contraception, which is pointless. It's not comparing like with like; it's a very different society, where those things are not to be taken for granted, like here.

I didn't compare them to people here... Humans are designed to pass on their genes... They're born to pass on their family name... That's what they're doing... And that's what they have to do to survive... The only other option is they all die.. Having fewer children won't make their lives better overnight... By the time they'd actually get up and running to a first world standard, they'll all be dead..

Bongalongherb · 03-05-2014 12:26AM

Mickey H wrote: »

What's your furniture pointed at??

It's pointed at a large computer screen with pc set-up, so when I turn it on, I just download whatever I need to watch for later and that does the job as there are no adverts anywhere interacting with this set-up, as in... happy days.

Shakespeare's Sister · 03-05-2014 12:28AM

Are they being convinced not to link to the grid or is it just that it's not an option for them?

retrogamefan wrote: »

I didn't compare them to people here

No I meant in reference to the original post I quoted.

Bongalongherb · 03-05-2014 12:37AM

I did see these kind of adverts when up in a friends house when he has the tv on, and I have to say, the same advert of flies on a poor unfortunate dying child and mother is replayed on the same channel every few minutes all day long. This country's government here in Ireland send millions every year to these places but as far back as I can see, the situation is worse off every year. Is our money going to the folk that really need it ? I don't know any-more after last year with government officials and military taking this money illegally to add to their personal accounts.

A seriously corrupt government will never look after it's citizens, as they are psychopaths with two things on their mind...money and power over it's poor weak population.

Gyalist · 03-05-2014 12:37AM

Nothing brings out AH's closeted racists and Malthusian fantasists like the subject of aid to Africa.

darkpagandeath · 03-05-2014 12:40AM

Gyalist wrote: »

Nothing brings out AH's closeted racists and Malthusian fantasists like the subject of aid to Africa.

Would you have any proof to backup your wild accusations ? or are you just making things up.

Aidric · 03-05-2014 12:48AM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

I dont want to look at some 5 yr old with a fly on their face and sad music playing in the background, only reason those ads are on tv is to make money for people in suits. solve the poverty problem and those guys lose their jobs

They fall down with the music choice. People out of their nut at 3am in the morning or who haven't slept would be much more sympathetic to a bit of tribal house.

woodoo · 03-05-2014 12:48AM

The population of Ethiopia has doubled since Bob Geldof's Live Aid of 1984. Simply providing food is not going to solve the problem.

Bongalongherb · 03-05-2014 12:53AM

We can't physically interfere with the workings of other countries governments, but we all can educate them and try to weed out the parasites from their government of which is stagnating their citizens progression to modernise.

Environmentalists included.

darkpagandeath · 03-05-2014 01:00AM

woodoo wrote: »

The population of Ethiopia has doubled since Bob Geldof's Live Aid of 1984. Simply providing food is not going to solve the problem.

As far as I know there was no actual famine in Ethiopia, It was the Government pushing a group of people it was trying to kill onto land they could not produce food on.

Amirani · 03-05-2014 01:02AM

Bongalongherb wrote: »

The woman will educate her man as he would be included in the family structure. A real woman can teach a man to be a genius, but only if he ever listened.

That's not really how it works.

BMJD · 03-05-2014 01:02AM

Here's a list of ****s I give about starving children there:

RandomName2 · 03-05-2014 01:03AM

fussyonion wrote: »

I don't think they make a blind bit of difference as everyone I know turns them off and pays no heed to them.

As long as they're sent a camel at Christmas.

creolebelle · 03-05-2014 01:04AM

Strawberry Persuasion wrote: »

We need more heroes like Bono to help sort these kinds of problems out.

Sarcasm?

Bongalongherb · 03-05-2014 02:05AM

Diego Simeone wrote: »

That's not really how it works.

But it is partially how it works over there.

kikidelvin · 03-05-2014 02:44AM

I think Irish water is looking at this.

Graces7 · 03-05-2014 08:29AM

Magaggie wrote: »

I guess lack of education/lack of access to contraception.

in india where my family work, it is because the men will not allow contraception in case they prevent a boy. castrate the men time.

takes two after all and always the women who get blamed.

talking re mass contraception is not sensible. cannot hand the pill out like vitamin pills.

Graces7 · 03-05-2014 08:33AM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Most of the money doesnt even reach these people, all these charities are a fraud, i wouldnt give them a cent

is why i support the work my family do. will not stop giving because of abuse; that is penalising the innocent and needy. we do not take salaries or have big cars. live very simply so we can feed more.

Arthur Beesley · 03-05-2014 08:43AM

BMJD wrote: »

Here's a list of ****s I give about starving children there:

I think the rest of your post got cut off.

DeanAustin · 03-05-2014 09:24AM

To the people who are saying the aid doesn't go to the people who need it, is there anything to back this up? I realise that there are people to pay that work for charities and that corrupt governments will probably take a chunk too but do you have anything solid that says nothing goes to the cause?

The aid is just firefighting when there are some fundamental issues to be addressed. Few people believe that aid is the way to fix the problem. In fact, Bono doesn't ask people to donate a load of money (or at least I never recall him doing it) as much as he lobbies politicians for debt forgiveness because, like him or hate him, he seems to have a good understanding of the problem. All that said, if I haven't got food or clean water, I'd rather some firefighting in the form of aid rather than people sitting about having intellectual conversations.

To those who say that they couldn't give a f**k about starving children...that's a pretty sh!t thing to say. I go to a third world country fairly regularly for work. It's not the poorest country in the world by a long shot but seeing kids genuinely starving on the side of the road, seeing entire housing areas built of whatever they could find and that wouldn't withstand a breezy day in Ireland makes you more than a bit thankful that you were born in a country that, for all its faults, ensures a relatively good standard of living for pretty much everybody. And that happy (for me) coincidence is just a random twist of fate that all of us on this side of the world should be grateful for.

Graces7 · 03-05-2014 09:56AM

DeanAustin wrote: »

To the people who are saying the aid doesn't go to the people who need it, is there anything to back this up? I realise that there are people to pay that work for charities and that corrupt governments will probably take a chunk too but do you have anything solid that says nothing goes to the cause?

The aid is just firefighting when there are some fundamental issues to be addressed. Few people believe that aid is the way to fix the problem. In fact, Bono doesn't ask people to donate a load of money (or at least I never recall him doing it) as much as he lobbies politicians for debt forgiveness because, like him or hate him, he seems to have a good understanding of the problem. All that said, if I haven't got food or clean water, I'd rather some firefighting in the form of aid rather than people sitting about having intellectual conversations.

To those who say that they couldn't give a f**k about starving children...that's a pretty sh!t thing to say. I go to a third world country fairly regularly for work. It's not the poorest country in the world by a long shot but seeing kids genuinely starving on the side of the road, seeing entire housing areas built of whatever they could find and that wouldn't withstand a breezy day in Ireland makes you more than a bit thankful that you were born in a country that, for all its faults, ensures a relatively good standard of living for pretty much everybody. And that happy (for me) coincidence is just a random twist of fate that all of us on this side of the world should be grateful for.

so you do what,apart from observing?

disaster tourists. ....

your dismissal of direct aid as firefighting...every meal matters to a hungry family.

being thankful is one thing; being generous is what matters

your first para is incredibly naive. yes, stuff gets robbed. shoeboxes too unless taken out by a big irishman who will defend them at eg customs.

the money we send to family goes direct to food suppliers we know and trust over long years. helps the local community that way too, buying there

workers in the big charities take huge salaries.

Gran Hermano · 03-05-2014 10:10AM

DeanAustin wrote: »

To the people who are saying the aid doesn't go to the people who need it, is there anything to back this up? .

One recent example
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/africa/140204/south-sudan-aid-appeal-troops-unicef-backpacks

Starving children of Africa TV ads

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