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Peaches Geldof died due to heroin overdose**MOD NOTE: NO JOKES**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    crockholm wrote: »
    The Young lady herself Went public when she labeled a singer as" Lily cokehead allen".Just don't let anyone tell you this august formaldihide encrusted person wasn't a great mother


    "Formaldihide encrusted". Jaysus Oscar Wilde can rest soundly tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Never said that, in this day and age, everyone knows what heroin does to you,there's no excuse. she seen what it did to her mother, not everything is about mental health, She had the means to get clean. I hate how mental health is brought into absolutely everything these days, maybe she was just a selfish woman who thought she could get away with taking heroin whilst she looked after her kids.

    Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't. Interesting how you're incapable of seeing the shades of grey that might exist in this story and immediately make assumptions on a woman you don't know from Adam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭gctest50


    I for one cannot wait for Barry Egan to have a special feature on her demise in the Life Magazine. Making her a martyr to the scourge of overdosing on drugs the very same way he did with Katy French.

    Bit far from an overdose - unless you know a bit more than the State Pathologist
    State pathologist Professor Marie Cassidy told the hearing in Trim courthouse, Co Meath, tests showed the 24-year-old had had a “sip” of alcohol and very little drugs or agents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭zcorpian88


    Heroin? Jesus that caught me by surprise, didn't think she'd be into that stuff.

    Such a shame, I know she lost her own mam young but risking the same fate was just foolish.

    She had a long and more privileged life ahead of her she had good looks, money, good job, nice family. Guess it wasn't enough for her.

    Feel bad for her husband, her kids and her poor dad also, he's done so much good and nothing but bad s**t happens him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Stheno wrote: »
    I once went through a very dark period of living and struggled to see anything good about life.

    I remember sitting in my hall and my dog coming up to me and giving me a funny cuddle like he knew something was wrong, and trying to help me.

    It gave me enormous comfort and the means to deal with the next day etc.

    Sometimes just living is very hard

    My cat did something like that with me when I was really low as well and it was very comforting too.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 755 ✭✭✭sea_monkey


    Never said that, in this day and age, everyone knows what heroin does to you,there's no excuse. she seen what it did to her mother, not everything is about mental health, She had the means to get clean. I hate how mental health is brought into absolutely everything these days, maybe she was just a selfish woman who thought she could get away with taking heroin whilst she looked after her kids.

    Yes, lets speculate that she was a selfish woman and beat her corpse with that to make ourselves feel better.

    Do you picture her taking heroin and laughing like a maniac at how good she was at abandoning her children? Do you really believe that she chose dying from a drug overdose over being able to live without drugs?

    Are you that naive to the reality of mental health issues coupled with drug addiction? If you are then I'd class you as spoilt before her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    Is suicide not a mortal sin punishable by hell anymore? Must have missed that.

    Can he/she not post up a few lines of a prayer without being lambasted? Fuxsake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭BMJD


    it's tragic that such a beautiful young mother was in such a dark place that her life would end in this way whether intentional or otherwise

    may she rest in peace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    "Formaldihide encrusted". Jaysus Oscar Wilde can rest soundly tonight.

    I Went to pere lachaise cemetary in paris,and saw OW's grave,beautiful and over the top tragic.....It's what he would have wanted


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Suas11 wrote: »
    My cat did something like that with me when I was really low as well and it was very comforting too.

    yeah, I know they only like licking tears off your face because water and salt taste good, but the little purring kiss on your cheek feels like they mean it, and if that helps, well done pet! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Can he/she not post up a few lines of a prayer without being lambasted? Fuxsake.

    How was I lambasting them? It was a simple question in relation to their post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Henlars67


    I really don't get why people who have everything going for them go down the heroin route.

    It wouldn't be my kind of scene, but I do kind of understand the use of recreational drugs like cocaine, but why heroin?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Muise... wrote: »
    yeah, I know they only like licking tears off your face because water and salt taste good, but the little purring kiss on your cheek feels like they mean it, and if that helps, well done pet! :)

    For me it was literally my dog trying to say to me "what will I do without you"?

    Said dog was with me when I was short of cash and living in a nice enough house, he died of a heart attack in kennels after I got enough cash to put in a nice kitchen.

    I literally had hysterics when he died, will never forget it.

    Non dog people will ask how could that mean you take three days off work

    Dog people will say it's perfectly reasonable

    Different strokes folks, my mum and dad were and are (mum) around for me as an adult, Peaches suffered a massive loss as a child at a sensitive age

    That's hard to deal with and build a positive self image with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    How was I lambasting them? It was a simple question in relation to their post.

    Was it suicide though? A person could unintentionally overdose on heroin quite easily, especially if she was inexperienced with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Can he/she not post up a few lines of a prayer without being lambasted? Fuxsake.

    "Just a few lines"............ that's how it starts.......


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    crockholm wrote: »
    Just don't let anyone tell you this august formaldihide encrusted person wasn't a great mother

    I often wonder what's wrong with people, when they go out of their way to be so nasty about something tragic.

    None of us know her demons. Drug addiction isn't a take it or leave it thing, and no one can see inside someone, or understand what it feels like when life is a struggle to survive what torments your inner self.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Was it suicide though? A person could unintentionally overdose on heroin quite easily, especially if she was inexperienced with it.

    Fair comment, I shouldn't assume it's suicide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    mikom wrote: »
    "Just a few lines"............ that's how it starts.......

    I saw what you did there .


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Candie wrote: »
    I often wonder what's wrong with people, when they go out of their way to be so nasty about something tragic.

    None of us know her demons. Drug addiction isn't a take it or leave it thing, and no one can see inside someone, or understand what it feels like when life is a struggle to survive what torments your inner self.

    Or if she accidentally overdosed?

    Given her devotion to her children, is that a consideration?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Henlars67 wrote: »
    I really don't get why people who have everything going for them go down the heroin route.

    It wouldn't be my kind of scene, but I do kind of understand the use of recreational drugs like cocaine, but why heroin?

    I've never done it but would try in a safe environment.

    From what I gather it is the single most pleasurable experience a human can have.


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  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stheno wrote: »
    Or if she accidentally overdosed?

    Given her devotion to her children, is that a consideration?

    Of course it is, but it's the horrible characterisation in the post I quoted that got me.

    She seemed nice, like a good person. She loved her kids and she had a tough life as a kid herself. Who knows what goes on with another person?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    Is suicide not a mortal sin punishable by hell anymore? Must have missed that.
    How was I lambasting them? It was a simple question in relation to their post.

    Were you not being sarcastic to that poster's comment no? Must have missed that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I was cautiously apprehensive about commenting on previous threads about her until a cause had been confirmed. All the previous comments calling her a great mother; I'm sorry but a great mother doesn't use heroin with her young child sitting nearby. Disgraceful.


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anna080 wrote: »
    I was cautiously apprehensive about commenting on previous threads about her until a cause had been confirmed. All the previous comments calling her a great mother; I'm sorry but a great mother doesn't use heroin with her young child sitting nearby. Disgraceful.

    Addiction means the choice is taken out of the matter.

    It's not something you should do, but a person who is in the grip of an addiction will rationalise anything. It's the sad nature of the beast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭mickrock


    BMJD wrote: »
    it's tragic that such a beautiful young mother was in such a dark place that her life would end in this way whether intentional or otherwise

    It doesn't automatically follow that if she died from a heroin overdose that she was in a "dark place".

    Maybe she was happy with life and also loved the effects of heroin and took more than she could handle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Holsten wrote: »
    I've never done it but would try in a safe environment.

    From what I gather it is the single most pleasurable experience a human can have.

    Would you take that gamble ? A safe environment in Ireland is hoping someone around you has the realisation to recognise you overdosing.
    I've wondered about what its like to try , a very internal escape rather pleasure ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭Dontfadeaway


    anna080 wrote: »
    I was cautiously apprehensive about commenting on previous threads about her until a cause had been confirmed. All the previous comments calling her a great mother; I'm sorry but a great mother doesn't use heroin with her young child sitting nearby. Disgraceful.

    It is very odd, i feel like there is more to the story. She put the kids to bed then did heroin? was someone there with her and left, where was her husband? who cleaned up before the police got there because they found nothing.

    It's still sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Candie wrote: »
    I often wonder what's wrong with people, when they go out of their way to be so nasty about something tragic.

    None of us know her demons. Drug addiction isn't a take it or leave it thing, and no one can see inside someone, or understand what it feels like when life is a struggle to survive what torments your inner self.

    What d fukc were her "demons"? I can assure you right here and now that,whatever she felt growing up was a fukking pittance to what I and my siblings faced.

    I say this also as a father who watched over my son,when things looked dark.Believe me,whatever opinions you have pale in comparison when,as an agnostic ,you beg from some higher Power to intervene to help your boy to pull through.

    The disdain I have for her is as someone who pretended to love her kids yet does something so incredibly stupid and harmful,if true about the heroin allegations,she does not deserve sympathy,rather scorn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,295 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    Candie wrote: »
    Addiction means the choice is taken out of the matter.

    It's not something you should do, but a person who is in the grip of an addiction will rationalise anything. It's the sad nature of the beast.

    You always have a choice.

    Always.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Well it's sad. I see plenty of people like her everyday in O Connell street. I'm not going to judge any addict because I don't know there demons but I feel for the kids most of all. They haven't been given a great start in life.


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