Inmate dies in botched execution!

Pherekydes · 30-04-2014 09:20AM #1

Seriously, what did they expect?

Oklahoma inmate dies after 'botched' lethal injection

Uriel. · 30-04-2014 09:22AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Seriously, what did they expect?

Oklahoma inmate dies after 'botched' lethal injection

Who?

branie · 30-04-2014 09:23AM

This just shows why the death penalty is wrong

Collie D · 30-04-2014 09:23AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Seriously, what did they expect?

Oklahoma inmate dies after 'botched' lethal injection

I suppose the obvious answer is that it wasn't exactly "botched" if he still died.

I'm usually anti-death penalty and this would be one of the reasons why but those two guys committed some pretty horrendous crimes. This guy buried his victim alive according to RTE website. I must be getting more right wing in my old age.

newmug · 30-04-2014 09:26AM

Whatever your views on capital punishment are, this lethal injection bullsh1t is just barbaric. All thats needed is an anaesthetic overdose. Either that or a firing squad.

Sheeps · 30-04-2014 09:26AM

"Lockett was sentenced to death for the 1999 shooting of a 19-year-old woman. Warner was convicted for the 1997 murder and rape of an 11-month-old girl."

I'm pro botched death penalty.

GalwayGuy2 · 30-04-2014 09:28AM

Sounds painful. And jesus christ that was a disturbing reading what they did.

But, and I'm actually on the fence about the death penalty, da fudge is this:

The state maintains the law is necessary to protect the suppliers from legal action and harassment.

It's just...how in the world does that make sense?

Pherekydes · 30-04-2014 09:29AM

Collie D wrote: »

I suppose the obvious answer is that it wasn't exactly "botched" if he still died.

I'm usually anti-death penalty and this would be one of the reasons why but those two guys committed some pretty horrendous crimes. This guy buried his victim alive according to RTE website. I must be getting more right wing in my old age.

Yeah, I wasn't discussing the rights or wrongs of the death penalty, just the silliness of the article headline and the irony behind it.

Guy:Incognito · 30-04-2014 09:32AM

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

It's just...how in the world does that make sense?

Companies that supply the drugs would be targets for loonies. Much like how people have been attacked for working in abortion clinics.

Uriel. · 30-04-2014 09:34AM

Is this the kind of thing that can go wrong with (legal) euthanasia?

30-04-2014 09:35AM

What he did was absolutely barbaric, and so was how he died.

Cue calls for all executions to be equally barbaric. Because that makes it all right.

Guy:Incognito · 30-04-2014 09:36AM

Candie wrote: »

What he did was absolutely barbaric, and so was how he died.

Cue calls for all executions to be equally barbaric. Because that makes it all right.

I would have thought those who believe in things like Karma or higher powers would see this as him having some justice meted out to him on the way out?

Anyhoo, a bit of suffering never hurt anyone.:)

GalwayGuy2 · 30-04-2014 09:38AM

I would have thought those who believe in things like Karma or higher powers would see this as him having some justice meted out to him on the way out?

Anyhoo, a bit of suffering never hurt anyone.

Well, unless their heart stops from the pain :P

harvester of sorrow · 30-04-2014 09:38AM

Sheeps wrote: »

"Lockett was sentenced to death for the 1999 shooting of a 19-year-old woman. Warner was convicted for the 1997 murder and rape of an 11-month-old girl."

Leave the ***** suffer.

30-04-2014 09:38AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

I would have thought those who believe in things like Karma or higher powers would see this as him having some justice meted out to him on the way out?

Anyhoo, a bit of suffering never hurt anyone.:)

I don't subscribe to the just world hypothesis, too many bad things happen to good people.

30-04-2014 09:39AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inert_gas_asphyxiation

"Nitrogen asphyxiation has been suggested as a more humane way to carry out capital punishment, but so far this use of inert gas has not been attempted by any country, state or territory."

Guy:Incognito · 30-04-2014 09:40AM

They could always just leave lengths of rope lying around and let nature take its course.......

Custardpi · 30-04-2014 09:43AM

If they're going to have capital punishment at all, why not have something quick & relatively painless, no need to add even more barbarity to the process. The guillotine would be best in this respect, over in a split second. If they were averse to the idea of using something French to dispatch people they could call it a "freedom chopper" or something like that.

mcko · 30-04-2014 09:44AM

One of the few things I like about the US is the way they punish rather than rehabilitate. For what he did his death was to good.

30-04-2014 09:46AM

Custardpi wrote: »

If they're going to have capital punishment at all, why not have something quick & relatively painless, no need to add even more barbarity to the process. The guillotine would be best in this respect, over in a split second. If they were averse to the idea of using something French to dispatch people they could call it a "freedom chopper" or something like that.

They could use Freedom Chopper as the brand name and run tv advertisments promoting it....

"The Freedom Chopper! Liberating Heads From Shoulders Since 2014"

It could work.

Or we could scrap the death penalty altogether and accept that 2 bad things don't add up to a good thing.

Pherekydes · 30-04-2014 09:46AM

Custardpi wrote: »

If they're going to have capital punishment at all, why not have something quick & relatively painless, no need to add even more barbarity to the process. The guillotine would be best in this respect, over in a split second. If they were averse to the idea of using something French to dispatch people they could call it a "freedom chopper" or something like that.

But the blade might be blunt and then the poor fecker might die in the botched attempt and the company who supplied the blade might be sued because somebody died in an execution but not in the way intended...

LeinsterDub · 30-04-2014 09:48AM

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Sounds painful. And jesus christ that was a disturbing reading what they did.

But, and I'm actually on the fence about the death penalty, da fudge is this:

It's just...how in the world does that make sense?

Because they drugs they are making are illegal/not approved by the FDA in the US .

Ash.J.Williams · 30-04-2014 09:50AM

They have some serious sentences in the states....think i'd rather die then get one.

Custardpi · 30-04-2014 09:52AM

Pherekydes wrote: »

But the blade might be blunt and then the poor fecker might die in the botched attempt and the company who supplied the blade might be sued because somebody died in an execution but not in the way intended...

That pretty much never happened in the French case. They always tested the blade on the day of the execution & sharpened it if necessary. The inmate's lawyers would just have to make sure that this was done. And yes, no capital punishment would obviously better but there's parts of the US where the old frontier mentality is still present & where European attitudes to crime & punishment are decades away so that's not going to happen.

wrt40 · 30-04-2014 09:53AM

Misleading headline. A botched execution would mean he lived.

Ash.J.Williams · 30-04-2014 09:54AM

+1 for the freedom chopper

homerjay2005 · 30-04-2014 09:55AM

branie wrote: »

This just shows why the death penalty is wrong

i would love the death penalty here for serious crimes like they committed, what they both did was simply barbaric.

Guy:Incognito · 30-04-2014 09:58AM

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Because they drugs they are making are illegal/not approved by the FDA in the US .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentobarbital

Tobyglen · 30-04-2014 09:58AM

Sheeps wrote: »

"Lockett was sentenced to death for the 1999 shooting of a 19-year-old woman. Warner was convicted for the 1997 murder and rape of an 11-month-old girl."

I'm pro botched death penalty.

Mightn't be guilty. We all know what the US judicial system to like for imprisoning innocent people, particularly Oklahoma.

osarusan · 30-04-2014 09:58AM

Collie D wrote: »

I'm usually anti-death penalty and this would be one of the reasons why but those two guys committed some pretty horrendous crimes.

I don't really think that you can be 'usually anti-death penalty.' You either agree with it as a principle or you don't.

If you think that the barbarity of these crimes means that these two deserve it, doesn't that mean that you are pro-death penalty, but only when crimes are particularly barbaric?

Guy:Incognito · 30-04-2014 10:01AM

Candie wrote: »

Or we could scrap the death penalty altogether and accept that 2 bad things don't add up to a good thing.

What about murderers/rapists/child abusers that reoffend?

How many bad things add up to a good thing? Presumably if your the victim of a serious repeat offender you'd be happy enough for them to just go back to jail for another 15 or 20 years then be out again?

Inmate dies in botched execution!

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