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The Max Clifford Trial Continues

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Stavros Murphy


    Karmas a bitch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    I also saw that piece on Sky News. His sneering attitude towards the victims was horrible, and what I found utterly bizarre was his interactions with reporters. Coolness personified doing his damage limitation spiel as if he was doing his own PR campaign.

    You'd swear he thought this was one of his usual bollox stunts in front of the media. I don't think the chap even realises the enormity of the situation and what he's potentially facing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭take everything


    I also saw that piece on Sky News. His sneering attitude towards the victims was horrible, and what I found utterly bizarre was his interactions with reporters. Coolness personified doing his damage limitation spiel as if he was doing his own PR campaign.

    You'd swear he thought this was one of his usual bollox stunts in front of the media. I don't think the chap even realises the enormity of the situation and what he's potentially facing.

    He'll milk this for anything he can get out of it.
    Don't worry, i can imagine him (if he's forced to) accepting the role of villain to get what he wants out of it- maybe a tell-all book that the usual mouthbreathers will lap up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    I just hope he has a long life........rotting in jail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Score two for Theroux.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    mikom wrote: »
    Score two for Theroux.

    I'd say Fred Phelps is thankful he's dead at this stage!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    For once, I hope that the sentence is in indirect proportion to the, ah, size of his appendage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭bogwalrus


    How many years is he expected to get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Rough Sleeper


    lukesmom wrote: »
    I always liked him, pretty shocked to be honest.
    I know, I just can't believe that someone who made a career out of prying into private lives and generally profiting on the misery of others could turn out to be a character of moral turpitude. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    This guy embodies everything that's wrong with the world today.
    The bit where he walks up behind a reporter who is reporting on his trial and desperately attempts to parody the reporter in front of the camera, trying to make some statement about the media presumably. But given he was the doyen of this media culture, I'm not sure what his point was so it just seemed like a desperate, confused last attempt at controlling it.
    Odious turd.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    I know, I just can't believe that someone who made a career out of prying into private lives and generally profiting on the misery of others could turn out to be a character of moral turpitude. :(

    Ok I admit I didn't know a whole lot about him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    bogwalrus wrote: »
    How many years is he expected to get?

    They reckon just 2 years which seems very low. We will see what the judge thinks.

    He was not really a PR guru in my book. There was an interesting discussion about him on the radio this morning.
    He spined and sold stories to the tabloids on behalf of his clients, that was how he earned his money. On top of helping some celebs get out of trouble by ensuring no negative stories about them got in the press.
    Some of the stories he sold had blatant lies in them, David Mellor and the Chelsea jersey for example.
    He also talked up his own credentials saying that he did PR for the beatles and Frank Sinatra. Also lies. He worked on the fringes at best for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭bogwalrus


    They reckon just 2 years which seems very low. We will see what the judge thinks.

    He was not really a PR guru in my book. There was an interesting discussion about him on the radio this morning.
    He spined and sold stories to the tabloids on behalf of his clients, that was how he earned his money. On top of helping some celebs get out of trouble by ensuring no negative stories about them got in the press.
    Some of the stories he sold had blatant lies in them, David Mellor and the Chelsea jersey for example.
    He also talked up his own credentials saying that he did PR for the beatles and Frank Sinatra. Also lies. He worked on the fringes at best for them.



    That really is way too low. I mean there are probably hundreds of people in the UK that have been charged with one sex offense and given the two years.

    Does the judge not look at previous cases and their sentencing as a guideline?

    I remember watching the Louis Theroux episode and thinking Max was some weirdo altogether. Louis really got under his skin and we got to see the real Max Clifford for a while.

    I think the man has some serious delusions and that might be from working in the industry too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Very important verdict for the whole of operation Yewtree. If he had walked the CPS would have been under a lot of presure not to continue with these cases as lack of evidence seemed to be making a conviction hard.

    16 arrests. 7 no further action. 5 on bail. 1 on trial. 1 not guilty. 1 guilty. 1 dead.

    But this jury has convicted so hopefully more will follow.
    A lot of wrongs need righting.

    I've mixed feelings on this one tbh. Im delighted that he's been convicted if he's guilty. However I worry that the CPS will use this as a shield to cover themselves from the absolute mess they made with bill roache, Michael Le vell etc. They've effectively ruined lives and will be unaccountable for it. meanwhile certain groups will use it as proof of why anonymity for the accused is a bad thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    tritium wrote: »
    They've effectively ruined lives and will be unaccountable for it. meanwhile certain groups will use it as proof of why anonymity for the accused is a bad thing
    What groups are these?

    What is the argument against anonymity for people accused of crimes?

    Blows my mind that the papers can legally plaster all of this info over their pages without a conviction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Sentenced to 8 years imprisonment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭bogwalrus


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Sentenced to 8 years imprisonment!


    Was not expecting that. Will he only do 4 really though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,058 ✭✭✭✭josip


    :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Couldn't find the existing thread on this case.

    Eight years.

    Good enough for the little prick.

    He'll serve a minimum of half that.

    EDIT: Just found the other thread - Feel free to bang this one up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Sentenced to 8 years imprisonment!

    Link?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Eight years isnt that much considering. Disgraceful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    It's good that justice has been done. So far, Op Yewtree seems to have been chasing down dead men. The successful prosecution of an actual living person must be a relief for them. :P

    However, I don't think I'll ever recover from the shock of Rolf Harris. :O


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    Eight years isnt that much considering. Disgraceful.

    As sad as it sounds it's better than I thought. He'll appeal no doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


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    Judge has said he must serve at least four.

    At his age that will be a long time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Eight years isnt that much considering. Disgraceful.

    He will serve at least 4, possibly 5 years. At age 71 that's taking away most of the good years he has left. He'll be an old, disgraced, washed-up nobody when he gets out, with nothing much to look forward to other than death, his friends, cronies and hangers-on having long since deserted him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool


    However, I don't think I'll ever recover from the shock of Rolf Harris. :O

    Has he even been charged?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    Has he even been charged?:confused:


    There's a court case pending, so he must have been.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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