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The Max Clifford Trial Continues

  • 19-03-2014 03:31AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭mark13


    The jury in the trial of Max Clifford had to be sent out for laughing this afternoon as an alleged victim gave graphic evidence in relation to the man’s penis size.

    The court heard how the woman, one of seven alleged victims of sexual assaults by the publicist, was advised to go and see him in 1983, when she was about 17.

    Then an aspiring fashion model, she described how Mr Clifford allegedly locked the door, groped her and tried to make her perform oral sex on him.

    The court has previously heard claims that his penis is “tiny” and no more than two-and-a-half inches when erect.

    The woman, who is now 48, said in her evidence today that she thought Mr Clifford was well-endowed and his penis was very large.

    “I had only seen one before, I had never seen one in that proximity and that situation,” she said.

    When Richard Horwell QC, defending, asked her about the issue, the woman remarked: “I have a small mouth. I do, my dentist has always said…”

    This prompted laughter from the jury, which was sent out for a few minutes.

    Jurors returned to be told by judge Anthony Leonard QC: “It is inevitable in a case dealing with this sort of graphic detail that members of the jury want to burst out laughing.

    “I can remember a very boring court case and we - I wasn't a judge then - became helpless with laughter and the judge had tears in his eyes and it took over 25 minutes to recover.

    “But we have got to remember that this is a court of law and we are dealing with serious allegations, and, in fairness to the witness, and the rest of the court, you have got to learn not to react to what's happening. Can I ask you to settle down and remember where you are?”

    Southwark Crown Court heard how Mr Clifford locked the door when the woman went into his office to see him.

    He allegedly told her that he wanted to see her figure and told her to take her dress off, which she did reluctantly, partly because she was wearing a thermal vest and holey tights, as she was “poverty stricken” and had only one pair.

    “I hadn't gone there thinking 'I'm going to see a photographer', I thought I was going to get career advice,” she said.

    She said Mr Clifford was “overcome”, at which point the alleged indecent assault began.

    Afterwards, the woman told the court, Mr Clifford said he wanted her to come to dinner with him and his wife and Cubby Broccoli, and masturbate him under the table while he sat next to his wife.

    “Then he went on to say I may need to sleep with Cubby Broccoli, but I would get a part in a Bond film,” she said. “I loathe James Bond films.”

    She went back to the hotel where she was staying, and stayed in bed for a number of days, telling staff not to put Mr Clifford's calls through as he rang “relentlessly”, she said.

    The woman told her sister and some friends what had happened. “I would get upset when I saw him on television and he complained about his privacy,” she said.

    The woman said she rang police when she saw that Mr Clifford had been arrested.

    Mr Clifford, from Hersham in Surrey, is accused of 11 counts of indecent assault against seven women and girls. He denies all the charges.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/max-clifford-penis-size-evidence-sees-trial-jury-sent-out-by-judge-for-laughing-9200015.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    mark13 wrote: »

    Fcuking hell mark, don't hold back there. Do you really feel that strongly about this case :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    What a little creep. Something about the whole affair puts no doubt in my mind he's guilty, but I don't really know what :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Who hates Max Clifford? All the cr@p from his trial being posted on Sky News, he really seems like an uppity, narcissistic excuse for a human being!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Found guilty :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Lou.m


    MaxClifford found guilty of 8 counts of sexual assault. Child abuse. I know one victim was aged 15.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Sky News showed a video of them reporting on the trial when he stood behind the reporter & just looked creepy.
    Never liked the guy before these revelations came out,hope he gets all the sex he doesn't want in prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    I hope he doesn't get a reduced sentence because of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    I'm glad that he was found guilty. Hopefully it'll give his poor victims some peace of mind.

    Can't imagine how hard it was for them in later years, after the abuse, when he was all over the media channels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 587 ✭✭✭sillyoulfool




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,058 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Hurrah. Glee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Wondering if he will get to do a spell in prison though ? Will have to wait till Friday .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    He need to get himself a good publicist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    This extract from an interview with the Daily Telegraph in 2005 tells you everything you need to know about the character of the man.
    I wondered if it was possible for him to define the pleasure he gets from exposing someone's indiscretions. Clifford does not hesitate. "With David Beckham [shagged the PA] it was money. A lot of money. With Jude Law [shagged the nanny] I was able to use that to do all sorts of deals for other clients of mine. I could say to an editor, I'll give you this story if you help publicise something else I'm involved with. With David Mellor [shagged an actress] it was the pleasure of helping to bring down the Conservative Party. With Jeffrey Archer [allegedly shagged a prostitute, then told whopping shaggy-dog story to cover it up] it was the pleasure of doing something that no one on Fleet Street had managed to do.
    "Then with Sven [shagged the PA] - that was really a pop at the FA. It also gave me money that I could use to get treatment for a little kid with cancer, or raise money for a hospice. The pleasure changes from story to story, but I always love the sense of being at the centre of everything and being in control."

    Read that second-last sentence again.

    Bleeuuurgh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    keano_afc wrote: »
    He need to get himself a good publicist.

    Bah, you beat me to it :)
    I was coming here to post the exact same thing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    zerks wrote: »
    Sky News showed a video of them reporting on the trial when he stood behind the reporter & just looked creepy.
    Never liked the guy before these revelations came out,hope he gets all the sex he doesn't want in prison.
    You hope he is raped in prison?

    Lovely. :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Holsten wrote: »
    You hope he is raped in prison?

    Lovely. :rolleyes:

    It's not rape if he consents


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Very important verdict for the whole of operation Yewtree. If he had walked the CPS would have been under a lot of presure not to continue with these cases as lack of evidence seemed to be making a conviction hard.

    16 arrests. 7 no further action. 5 on bail. 1 on trial. 1 not guilty. 1 guilty. 1 dead.

    But this jury has convicted so hopefully more will follow.
    A lot of wrongs need righting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    This post has been deleted.

    You are right....sadly.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


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    I may be wrong but i don't think it works that way in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭take everything


    This guy embodies everything that's wrong with the world today.
    The bit where he walks up behind a reporter who is reporting on his trial and desperately attempts to parody the reporter in front of the camera, trying to make some statement about the media presumably. But given he was the doyen of this media culture, I'm not sure what his point was so it just seemed like a desperate, confused last attempt at controlling it.
    Odious turd.


  • Posts: 8,317 ✭✭✭ Clementine Whining Against


    Wasn't Max a regular on Irish tv chat shows? Can't remember if it was the Late Late or Saturday night stuff. Good old RTE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Posts: 8,317 ✭✭✭ Clementine Whining Against


    Yeah to be honest I always found him really interesting when being interviewed. He used to talk about the death of his wife which was really powerful stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭farmerjj


    Wasn't Max a regular on Irish tv chat shows? Can't remember if it was the Late Late or Saturday night stuff. Good old RTE.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,130 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    Wasn't Max a regular on Irish tv chat shows? Can't remember if it was the Late Late or Saturday night stuff. Good old RTE.

    I think he was on 2FM a fair bit as well, Gerry Ryan IIRC.
    Ryan Confidential had him too : http://www.rte.ie/tv/ryanconfidential/maxclifford.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    I always liked him, pretty shocked to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    lukesmom wrote: »
    I always liked him, pretty shocked to be honest.

    I'm pretty shocked myself - I can't believe anyone liked him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Wasn't Max a regular on Irish tv chat shows? Can't remember if it was the Late Late or Saturday night stuff. Good old RTE.

    Not since he was found guilty, I think.


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