UK uses ugly stick on long term unemployed

Kermit.de.frog · 28-04-2014 12:55PM #1

Unemployed forced to sign on every day

I see the merits on the work shy.

However seems a bit humiliating for those who are on tough times not for lack of their own effort.

What do ye reckon?

Xios · 28-04-2014 12:56PM

Like with everything else.

It depends.

NipNip · 28-04-2014 12:58PM

That would be an awful pain in the rear end. What happens if you've to go somewhere and can't sign?

Hande hoche! · 28-04-2014 12:58PM

Wonder what the effects are on administration costs?

bumper234 · 28-04-2014 12:59PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Unemployed forced to sign on every day

I see the merits on the work shy.

However seems a bit humiliating for those who are on tough times not for lack of their own effort.

What do ye reckon?

Brilliant idea that should be bought in here too.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 28-04-2014 12:59PM

I don't see anything wrong with it if they're genuinely unemployed, as long as they're within a reasonable distance of their local Job Centre. I don't know why people see it as humiliating. If my mate sees me in the Dole office every day, that means he's there too.

aidan24326 · 28-04-2014 12:59PM

Don't see what that's going to achieve really.

kneemos · 28-04-2014 01:00PM

Bus fares to the Jobcentre every day?

Bubbaclaus · 28-04-2014 01:00PM

Good idea

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 28-04-2014 01:01PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Wonder what the effects are on administration costs?

They could well see it as a money saving exercise as you're never going to get 100% of people to sign on every single day.

Super-Rush · 28-04-2014 01:03PM

Whoop another dole thread.

Great way to start the week.

TimeToShine · 28-04-2014 01:04PM

"Mass emigration is expected as a result"

jester77 · 28-04-2014 01:05PM

Why not, gives you a reason to get up in the morning plus you can stop by the offie on the way home.

Alf. A. Male · 28-04-2014 01:05PM

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Wonder what the effects are on administration costs?

I'm guessing they anticipate savings as it'll lead to a number of fraudulent and absentee claims being closed.

Bubbaclaus · 28-04-2014 01:06PM

600,000 available jobs in the UK yet people still sit at home on their arses collecting the dole. Unbelievable.

The same problem here in Ireland. The sooner this bring this in here the quicker all these available jobs will be filled.

doolox · 28-04-2014 01:09PM

Amid overworked officials and job placement people will lead to riots eventually.

Many places in Britain are unemployment blackspots but the job-rich areas suffer from high living costs for beginner workers, high rental and commuter costs.

The govt need to move on these barriers so that people will move from the job starved areas to the job rich areas.

Maphisto · 28-04-2014 01:09PM

Iain Duncan Smith really is a warm cuddly guy.

Tasden · 28-04-2014 01:11PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

600,000 available jobs in the UK yet people still sit at home on their arses collecting the dole. Unbelievable.

The same problem here in Ireland. The sooner this bring this in here the quicker all these available jobs will be filled.

Yeah because you can just stroll in off the street and take up these "available" jobs regardless of your experience/ qualifications.

the_syco · 28-04-2014 01:12PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

600,000 available jobs in the UK yet people still sit at home on their arses collecting the dole. Unbelievable.

The same problem here in Ireland. The sooner this bring this in here the quicker all these available jobs will be filled.

Requirement; PHD and 5 years work experience needed.

Explain how a student can fill this post, will ya? A fecking load of jobs ask for similar requirements

The Diabolical Monocle · 28-04-2014 01:15PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

600,000 available jobs in the UK yet people still sit at home on their arses collecting the dole. Unbelievable.

The same problem here in Ireland. The sooner this bring this in here the quicker all these available jobs will be filled.

Not unless theres more on offer than C++ programmer with 20 years experience or care assistant.

uck51js9zml2yt · 28-04-2014 01:15PM

Tasden wrote: »

Yeah because you can just stroll in off the street and take up these "available" jobs regardless of your experience/ qualifications.

Don't forget all those It jobs we keep hearing about that conveniently forget to say you need to be fluent in a second language

Maphisto · 28-04-2014 01:15PM

the_syco wrote: »

Requirement; PHD and 5 years work experience needed.

Explain how a student can fill this post, will ya? A fecking load of jobs ask for similar requirements

Totally agree - even kitchen porter jobs want at least 2 years experience.

whats newxt · 28-04-2014 01:17PM

I reckon they should provide everyone with a basic income and get it over with.

Collie D · 28-04-2014 01:19PM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

600,000 available jobs in the UK yet people still sit at home on their arses collecting the dole. Unbelievable.

The same problem here in Ireland. The sooner this bring this in here the quicker all these available jobs will be filled.

Thanks. You had me worried that we'd get to the end of the first page before somebody spoke sh*te in a thread about unemployment

bumper234 · 28-04-2014 01:21PM

whats newxt wrote: »

I reckon they should provide everyone with a basic income and get it over with.

They already do this, It's called the dole.

suicide_circus · 28-04-2014 01:21PM

If this was targeted at people on the dole 4/5+ years I would see the point

irishejit · 28-04-2014 01:22PM

A return bus fare from my home town to the nearest Job Centre would equate to around £4 a day. Take that £20 a week out of the weekly benefit which is about £60 I think and its plain to see there's not a pile left.

Even if there was a scheme put into place where this money could be claimed back I can still see major problems for people whilst waiting to get this back.

jon1981 · 28-04-2014 01:22PM

Again tarring all with one big brush!! I'm not an advocate of people choosing long term employment as a vocation by any means, however a degree of common sense is needed here.

what's the cost of all this? Dole queues i hear can be huge, so effectively you're asking people to stand in a queue every day?

boombang · 28-04-2014 01:23PM

If you have a job you have to get up and turn up every day.

While I see downsides, including unnecessary travel costs, I think this is a good thing. I'd have a system whereby everybody would have to sign on before 10am and pass a breathalyser test.

bumper234 · 28-04-2014 01:25PM

jon1981 wrote: »

Again tarring all with one big brush!! I'm not an advocate of people choosing long term employment as a vocation by any means, however a degree of common sense is needed here.

what's the cost of all this? Dole queues i hear can be huge, so effectively you're asking people to stand in a queue every day?

It does state "long term unemployed" Now weather they mean 1 year 5 years or 10 years is another thing. It would also stop those who are working and claiming at the same time.

mikom · 28-04-2014 01:26PM

whats newxt wrote: »

I reckon they should provide everyone with a basic income and get it over with.

Looking that way..........

Almost half of all jobs could be automated by computers within two decades and "no government is prepared" for the tsunami of social change that will follow, according to the Economist.

That report too pointed out the change will affect jobs of all kinds - from a Chinese factory Hon Hai which has announced plans to replace 500,000 workers with robots in three years, to lawyers, surgeons and public sector workers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/17/rise-of-the-machines-economist_n_4616931.html?just_reloaded=1

UK uses ugly stick on long term unemployed

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