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Atkins I feel very sick help

  • 27-04-2014 02:17PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    I've been following the Atkins diet for five days and I feel terrible. Headaches, dizziness and just a general feeling of sh!t. Also extremely narky. Feel like giving it up I miss my morning porridge so much :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 33,259 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    lukesmom wrote: »
    I've been following the Atkins diet for five days and I feel terrible. Headaches, dizziness and just a general feeling of sh!t. Also extremely narky. Feel like giving it up I miss my morning porridge so much :(
    That would be carb/sugar withdrawal. It's hell! If you can stick through it, it'll only last a day or two and you'll bounce around the place after it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    If you're carb intake is around 20g a day or less, you'll get what's called keto flu in the early days. Apparently you can mitigate it a bit by making sure you're getting enough electrolytes on board. But either way it'll pass soon enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Just had a slice of mccambridge brown bread my husband forced into me, so long atkins


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Theres a lot to be said for common sense :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Oryx wrote: »
    Theres a lot to be said for common sense :)

    ?????

    Presuming you mean it's a bad diet and yes I agree, anything that makes you feel that bad cannot be good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭WhyTheFace


    All fad diets like Atkins are a waste of time. Why would anyone want to torture themselves like you are?

    Eat healthy and exercise regularly and you will lose weight.

    Whatever you lose now you'll put back on and some unless you plan to continue like this for good.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Shane Brief Jacket


    WhyTheFace wrote: »
    All fad diets like Atkins are a waste of time. Why would anyone want to torture themselves like you are?

    Eat healthy and diet regularly and you will lose weight.

    Whatever you lose now you'll put back on and some unless you plan to continue like this for good.

    Yeah, if she "diets regularly" :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭WhyTheFace


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Yeah, if she "diets regularly" :confused:

    Ha. Sorry, I meant EXERCISE. I fixed my post.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    lukesmom wrote: »
    ?????

    Presuming you mean it's a bad diet and yes I agree, anything that makes you feel that bad cannot be good.

    Fads don't work. Why do people consider short term torture to be a good option when it comes to food? Food should be a pleasure, trouble is most of us don't appreciate good food as we are addicted to sugar and processed junk. The one thing I have found is that if you eat clean your body will tell you what it needs. Weird but true (for me anyway).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    Exercise and FRESH food in proper portions is all you need! And by exercise I mean an hour walk at least every day.

    Eat 1400 calories or so instead of the recommended 2000 for women and exercise and you will lose weight.
    Diets are stupid!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    lukesmom wrote: »
    ?????

    Presuming you mean it's a bad diet and yes I agree, anything that makes you feel that bad cannot be good.

    If memory serves me, you were trying it because anxiety medication makes you crave high carb foods. I'm open to correction but no matter what 'diet' you choose, you'll still have to deal with those cravings. So you're better off just opting for something sustainable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    Could you actually be unwell? Headaches and narkiness are one thing, but dizziness is another thing entirely. Would you be dehydrated? Would you drink a pint of water over the next hour and see how you feel then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,799 ✭✭✭COH


    Days 5-8 are the worst in my experience, not a huge fan of atkins but have followed an zero carb protocol leading into different nutritional strategies in the past...

    Days 1-4 The novelty of doing something new along with stored glycogen keeps you ticking over
    Days 5-8 General lethargy, brain fog etc.
    Day 9 onwards.... Energy levels stabilise, all becomes well in the world.

    I'd usually reintroduce carbs etc between day 9 and 14 and follow something very un-Atkins going forwards. But to each his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭WhyTheFace


    COH wrote: »
    Days 5-8 are the worst in my experience, not a huge fan of atkins but have followed an zero carb protocol leading into different nutritional strategies in the past...

    Days 1-4 The novelty of doing something new along with stored glycogen keeps you ticking over
    Days 5-8 General lethargy, brain fog etc.
    Day 9 onwards.... Energy levels stabilise, all becomes well in the world.

    I'd usually reintroduce carbs etc between day 9 and 14 and follow something very un-Atkins going forwards. But to each his own.

    If you don't mind me asking, how much weight did you lose and continue to keep off as a result of your zero carb diet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    WhyTheFace wrote: »
    If you don't mind me asking, how much weight did you lose and continue to keep off as a result of your zero carb diet?

    In 5 days I've lost 3lbs but I'm quitting as the side effects are not worth it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭WhyTheFace


    lukesmom wrote: »
    In 5 days I've lost 3lbs but I'm quitting as the side effects are not worth it

    2lbs of that is water.

    And besides, it's easy to lose weight rapidly by these crazy diets. It's keeping it off that is the hard part and where 95% people fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 970 ✭✭✭yawhat!


    I seen in another thread you had a big fry up for breakfast. No wonder your sick just eating that garbage!

    A diet with vegetables, normal fresh healthy chicken/salmon grilled and around 1200 calories with healthy carbs like potatoes or rice is the way to go with exercise!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭WhyTheFace


    yawhat! wrote: »
    I seen in another thread you had a big fry up for breakfast. No wonder your sick just eating that garbage!

    But it's Atkins, you can eat frys because they are healthy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,799 ✭✭✭COH


    WhyTheFace wrote: »
    If you don't mind me asking, how much weight did you lose and continue to keep off as a result of your zero carb diet?

    I don't have the statistics off hand but I can tell you that it was not as much as I have lost with a balanced diet and progressive training schedule while not actually 'dieting' :) For example I've lost about 9kg since Christmas eating clean food that I love and getting stronger.

    For the record in the past few years I also...

    Carb back loaded
    Did the ketogenic diet
    Did intermittent fasting
    Did intermittent fasting following a keto window
    Carb cycled
    Tried carbnite
    Various versions of whatever 'Paleo' entailed at the time.
    I cant remember what else at the moment.

    For he record I do all this to empathise with my clients, I train people for a living. These diets coincide with periods away from powerlifting for me as I usually prefer to 'diet' hard when I can't train hard. Any one of these protocols may have it place in the grand scheme of lean but neither are necessarily the only or best way to proceed.

    Aaaaaanyway the point is that if its not sustainable and if it leaves you miserable and unsociable then there's pretty much no way that its the vehicle to get you to where you want to go. You could eat cod and broccoli 6 times a day and you'll loose weight, but you'd also lose the will live and end up cheating.

    Zero carb just isn't sustainable for the most people, there are also lots of tasty carbs in veg that people forget about. I like it to help regulate insulin sensitivity and help negate intolerences for short periods of time (mainly a two week period leading into something else) but carbs aren't the enemy.

    Eat clean most of the time, be progressively more active then you were last week, earn your carbs through training, live a little and get sweaty in some way that you find fun/challenging... stick to that for 3 months and see what happens. You'll learn a lot about yourself along the way as long as you acknowledge that

    - it might not be easy
    - it involves preparing food
    - it takes patience and consistency
    - you'll be the last person to notice a difference in how you look but the first to notice a difference in how you feel

    I might have gone a little off topic there.. blame the coffee :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    yawhat! wrote: »
    I seen in another thread you had a big fry up for breakfast. No wonder your sick just eating that garbage!

    With a horse that high you'd win the Grand National. Wouldn't even need to jump Beecher's.

    Unless it was fry up every day, then there's no basis for saying a fry will make you feel ill.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    What addition are you to a woman? What have you got to offer?

    Also, are you early 20's or 30's?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    NipNip wrote: »
    What addition are you to a woman? What have you got to offer?

    Also, are you early 20's or 30's?

    What do you mean what have I got to offer??? I'm 34


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 656 ✭✭✭NipNip


    lukesmom wrote: »
    What do you mean what have I got to offer??? I'm 34

    Oh the shame. I was intending to reply to another unrelated thread. So sorry!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    NipNip wrote: »
    Oh the shame. I was intending to reply to another unrelated thread. So sorry!!!

    Link to that thread, sounds way more interesting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭MaceFace


    The amount of nonsense on here from people who obviously know very little about the subject....
    Oryx wrote: »
    Theres a lot to be said for common sense :)
    Thanks for enlightening the rest of us to your obvious knowledge on the subject.
    WhyTheFace wrote: »
    All fad diets like Atkins are a waste of time. Why would anyone want to torture themselves like you are?

    Eat healthy and exercise regularly and you will lose weight.

    Whatever you lose now you'll put back on and some unless you plan to continue like this for good.
    What? Eat like this for ever or you will put back on all the weight? Seriously? Is there some magic here that says once you start eating carbs again that you will somehow gain all the fat you lost on a deficit back again and there is nothing you can do about it? Seriously?
    Oryx wrote: »
    Fads don't work. Why do people consider short term torture to be a good option when it comes to food? Food should be a pleasure, trouble is most of us don't appreciate good food as we are addicted to sugar and processed junk. The one thing I have found is that if you eat clean your body will tell you what it needs. Weird but true (for me anyway).
    Atkins has been around for over 40 years. What makes this a fad?
    Truth is that a large proportion of the population is overweight and eating at a deficit (dieting) is required to lose excess fat. How else can people shed excess fat?
    yawhat! wrote: »
    Exercise and FRESH food in proper portions is all you need! And by exercise I mean an hour walk at least every day.

    Eat 1400 calories or so instead of the recommended 2000 for women and exercise and you will lose weight.
    Diets are stupid!
    Erhh - all women should eat 1400 calories? Seriously? Why 1400 and not 1200 or 1500?
    Besides, you are recommending someone lose weight but diet's are stupid? Errh, why recommend one then....
    WhyTheFace wrote: »
    If you don't mind me asking, how much weight did you lose and continue to keep off as a result of your zero carb diet?
    I did Keto which Atkins is a variation of and lost 25lbs. Put on about 4lbs over the last 2 weeks due to multiple large family gatherings and parties but expect to shed at least 3 lbs of that in the next few days.
    lukesmom wrote: »
    In 5 days I've lost 3lbs but I'm quitting as the side effects are not worth it
    This is a pity as your experience will be like so many stories you read which will be along the lines of Atkins (or zero carbs) suck as they make you feel terrible not realizing that this is your body adapting to the use of ketones for fuel rather than glycogen which is very short term. Once adapted, you feel fine and your energy levels will be on par with what you experience with carbs and potentially much better.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    MaceFace, you proved my point for me. Atkins didn't work for you. You said it yourself, you put on weight again because it is unsustainable in practice. This is because FAD DIETS DON'T WORK. If Atkins worked it would be something people could live by, but they don't. They jump in and out of it and diets like it and their weight yo-yos back and forth. Just like you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭WhyTheFace


    MaceFace wrote: »

    I did Keto which Atkins is a variation of and lost 25lbs. Put on about 4lbs over the last 2 weeks due to multiple large family gatherings and parties but expect to shed at least 3 lbs of that in the next few days.

    So you put on 2kg just by going to a few gatherings?

    This just shows you've no idea how to control yourself. People who understand healthy eating can go to such events without putting on any weight.

    Come back here in 6 months and see where your weight is at.

    I really do feel sorry for people who think the weight loss is sustainable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,906 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    MaceFace wrote: »
    Truth is that a large proportion of the population is overweight and eating at a deficit (dieting) is required to lose excess fat. How else can people shed excess fat?

    By consuming fewer calories than they burn in a day.

    That doesn't have to be done by dieting. It can be done by eating healthily which tends to be a lot more sustainable than dieting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,401 ✭✭✭lukesmom


    Had a bowl of porridge this morning. I don't advise anybody to do atkins because it makes you feel crap. I have no doubt if I had of continued it I would have lost more weight and maybe my mind as a result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    lukesmom wrote: »
    Had a bowl of porridge this morning. I don't advise anybody to do atkins because it makes you feel crap. I have no doubt if I had of continued it I would have lost more weight and maybe my mind as a result.

    Not sure why you say that, plenty of people use low-carb diets, or versions of them, quite happily. It was already explained to you why you felt like crap, and that had you stuck with it,you would feel fine in a few days. Atkins is not low low carb forever, lots of veggies and fruits like berries, etc, are all part of the lifestyle down the road.


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