Amish.

Lapin · 24-04-2014 01:46AM

dpofloinn wrote: »

I dont get this new fetish for ''Amish'' shows that TV land seems to have at the moment. However I cant wait for TV3s offerings ''My Big fat Amish gypsy wedding'', ''Amish Dole scum'',''24 hours in Amish A&E'' ,''Bare Knuckle Amish'' and ''Amish banged up abroad''

Amish A&E might have some production issues if they refuse to go there due to some of them spurring medical treatment.

Amish Banged up Abroad mightn't be too far from the way things are for many of them already. Not quite banged up, but life is restricted for many of them.

dpofloinn · 24-04-2014 01:54AM

Lapin wrote: »

Amish A&E might have some production issues if they refuse to go there due to some of them spurring medical treatment.

Amish Banged up Abroad mightn't be too far from the way things are for many of them already. Not quite banged up, but life is restricted for many of them.

If TLC and other such channels cant find Amish to go on these shows they just hire them its win win because the Amish cant watch them so who would ever know. You just have to look at shows that already exhist like ''Amish Mafia'' and ''Breaking Amish'' utter scutter

Da Shins Kelly · 24-04-2014 02:04AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

- Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education

- Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum

- Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion

- Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...

One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!

That's not really a fair comparison. It's become very much the norm to have a third level education in Ireland nowadays, and you at least have the option to go to go to college, which a lot if people avail of. There wouldn't be many who don't at least have a leaving cert growing up in Ireland now. We're not restricted in what we can or can't do here. At least we have the option to read books that aren't the bible if we want to, or learn skills and engage in activities that don't just revolve around housekeeping and agriculture. We have far more options that enable us to function in the real world. Do you really think there is any comparison between how a young Irish person of today manages in the modern world and a young Amish person?

I dont mind what the Amish do, but this idea that they just live the "simple life" and that's all there is to it doesn't seem totally accurate.

The Diabolical Monocle · 24-04-2014 03:11AM

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foggy_lad · 24-04-2014 03:19AM

dpofloinn wrote: »

I dont get this new fetish for ''Amish'' shows that TV land seems to have at the moment. However I cant wait for TV3s offerings ''My Big fat Amish gypsy wedding'', ''Amish Dole scum'',''24 hours in Amish A&E'' ,''Bare Knuckle Amish'' and ''Amish banged up abroad''

Don't forget the Amish buggy races on the interstate.

Witcher · 24-04-2014 03:20AM

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Electric Sheep · 24-04-2014 03:34AM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

That's not really a fair comparison. It's become very much the norm to have a third level education in Ireland nowadays, and you at least have the option to go to go to college, which a lot if people avail of. There wouldn't be many who don't at least have a leaving cert growing up in Ireland now. We're not restricted in what we can or can't do here. At least we have the option to read books that aren't the bible if we want to, or learn skills and engage in activities that don't just revolve around housekeeping and agriculture. We have far more options that enable us to function in the real world. Do you really think there is any comparison between how a young Irish person of today manages in the modern world and a young Amish person?

I dont mind what the Amish do, but this idea that they just live the "simple life" and that's all there is to it doesn't seem totally accurate.

Yet we hear all the irish whinge that they can't stay for life in mummy's neighborshood. The Amish can, maybe that is how it is done.

Irish Guitarist · 24-04-2014 06:53AM

I saw a documentary about them before on PBS America. It was fascinating how on the one hand they visited the family of a man who carried out a terrible Amish school shooting to tell them they forgave them, but on the other hand they shun their own children if they catch them listening to a radio or something.

padd b1975 · 24-04-2014 07:45AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

- Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education

- Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum

- Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion

- Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...

One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!

They have loads of skills.

The men are excellent farmers, carpenters and horsemen.

They also produce highly sought after woodcraft which they sell to tourists.

Women are great cooks, quilt makers/embroidery, these are also sold to tourists.

I think they are pretty sound business people behind it all.

Yes, what they consider an acceptable level of education is a long way from ours.

But I feel a good honest work ethic will always kick the carp out of hanging around a university* for four years windbagging about some flavour of the month leftie idealism.

* Bankrolled by the bank of mommy and daddy of course.

Stavros Murphy · 24-04-2014 07:51AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

- Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education
Thanks be to God, we've enough useless graduates.
- Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum
Not quite as outdated as an arts degree...
- Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion
As opposed to Islam, or any other world religion..who never mention it..or our culture, which seems to revolve around drink..
- Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...
Their wealth appears to contradict this a bit.

One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!

Teyla Emmagan · 24-04-2014 07:54AM

There's a Mennonite/Amish community down in Waterford. According to their website they have a congregation of about 300 but I don't know how many of those are 'living the way'. They have a few local businesses, bakeries, carpentry, farming, that sort of thing. It doesn't seem hardline religious, more regular prayer than zealotry. I find it very interesting anyway. Seems like a nice community to grow up in. As far as I can see it's just a slower/simpler way of life, which is no bad thing.

smurfjed · 24-04-2014 08:50AM

We travel to the USA state of Delaware every six months for training, just down from the training centre is a farmers market with an Amish section inside it, they bring all of their grown or produced products there to sell, their sausages, pies and cakes are great

Plus they appear to be extremely quiet and well mannered. Looking forward to going back next month

jimgoose · 24-04-2014 09:03AM

I think you'll find they're the diametric opposite of nutters. Ach, English!

Boombastic · 24-04-2014 09:10AM

dpofloinn wrote: »

I dont get this new fetish for ''Amish'' shows that TV land seems to have at the moment. However I cant wait for TV3s offerings ''My Big fat Amish gypsy wedding'', ''Amish Dole scum'',''24 hours in Amish A&E'' ,''Bare Knuckle Amish'' and ''Amish banged up abroad''

for a crowd that don't like technology, they're rarely off the tv

Fuzzytrooper · 24-04-2014 09:12AM

Yeah I know the Dunmore East group and they're a lovely genuine bunch. Also....I couldn't resist

24-04-2014 09:13AM

The nice ones seem nice. The nutty ones seem nutty
Was it them or mennonites that were denied counselling by their own communities after the mass rapes?

Sh1tbag OToole · 24-04-2014 09:13AM

It's hard work and sacrifice living in an Amish paradise

mad muffin · 24-04-2014 09:17AM

I hear their weemens are demons in the sack. Or so watching Banshee has learned me.

LoonyLovegood · 24-04-2014 09:17AM

I met a couple of Amish girls when I was in the US a few years ago, they were all my own age, fifteen/sixteen or so. I still write letters to two of them, and emails to one (who left the community when she was eighteen). They're really lovely people, and I admire that they can have such firm beliefs in a world that's increasingly non-religious and technologically based.

Sam Kade · 24-04-2014 09:20AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

OP you should watch that AMish Mafia show on Discovery, now that's mental.

It's contrived rubbish for entertainment.

Sam Kade · 24-04-2014 09:29AM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

There's a Mennonite/Amish community down in Waterford. According to their website they have a congregation of about 300 but I don't know how many of those are 'living the way'. They have a few local businesses, bakeries, carpentry, farming, that sort of thing. It doesn't seem hardline religious, more regular prayer than zealotry. I find it very interesting anyway. Seems like a nice community to grow up in. As far as I can see it's just a slower/simpler way of life, which is no bad thing.

They are allowed drive cars and use electronics etc. I visited their shop last year expensive but quality home baked produce.

Graces7 · 24-04-2014 09:31AM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

In fairness, their lifestyle is a bit mad. From what I understand, they don't educate their children past a certain age, which leaves a lot of them in a pretty precarious position if they decide to leave the community. The only skills they have are outdated and they barely have a second level education, never mind a third level one, and the education they do have tends to revolve around the bible. I know it's all part of the lifestyle, but I imagine life can be pretty difficult for those who are raised Amish and decide they don't want to be anymore. They're not really all that well equipped to adapt to the real world, from what I gather.

this is totally untrue! you need to read and research more. real world indeed...many of us who are not amish live very simply and happily and live by the word of god.

24-04-2014 09:32AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

They are allowed drive cars and use electronics etc.

I thought something was Amish alright.

jimgoose · 24-04-2014 09:54AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

They are allowed drive cars and use electronics etc. I visited their shop last year expensive but quality home baked produce.

That'd be the Mennonites, yeah. They use telephones, electricity and what-have-you.

Sam Kade · 24-04-2014 10:26AM

jimgoose wrote: »

That'd be the Mennonites, yeah. They use telephones, electricity and what-have-you.

All Amish can use telephones only they won't allow them in their houses they have a kiosk outside for the phone.

jimgoose · 24-04-2014 10:27AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

All Amish can use telephones only they won't allow them in their houses they have a kiosk outside for the phone.

Oh aye? Didn't know that.

topper75 · 24-04-2014 10:28AM

Sky King wrote: »

Yes and they picked a seemingly arbitrary stage in technological development from the last 5000 years and decided it was the correct one.

Incorrect. Didn't pick it. Rather kept it.

I visited them in Illinois. Fine people. Mind their own business. Some of the conventions seem daft but behind all of them there is a focus on keeping their church in one piece. The big issue now is the tension with the relationship with land. It's finite and not everyone can farm. This relationship with God via the earth is threatening the church.

I'm not religious but if I was I'd consider that way of life as a superior one to our own.

ShooterSF · 24-04-2014 10:47AM

Raising kids what to think rather than how to think while limiting their future possibilities unnecessarily is not something I agree with but then again I'm not one of those people who profess their admiration of the idea of a simpler life on the internet.

24-04-2014 10:56AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

- Allowed leave education at 16 and many rarely enter third level education

- Outdated skills taught by an even more outdated curriculum

- Education tends to revolve around religion, culture tends to revolve around religion

- Ill equipped to adapt to the real world and modern society...

One could almost be forgiven for thinking you were talking about Ireland there!

Ireland has the highest take up of third level education in the EU
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/young-irish-women-are-best-educated-in-european-union-30073846.html

If you are going to rant at least have some validity to it.

mad muffin · 24-04-2014 11:06AM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Ireland has the highest take up of third level education in the EU
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/young-irish-women-are-best-educated-in-european-union-30073846.html

If you are going to rant at least have some validity to it.

Yes, yes. The problem is, they take their well educated selves to other countries.

Only us stupids are left behind. So Czarcasm's argument is still valid. :pac:

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